Sharp's New Quattron LCDs are Shipping This Month

[TheDickWard]

They're capable of quite a bit, but the one thing they don't do is 3D.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/s...ed-wifi-no-3d/

[David Susilo]

"They're capable of quite a bit, but the one thing they don't do is 3D."

two things they don't do, actually, they don't even do accurate colour rendition.

[damonous]

"They're capable of quite a bit, but the one thing they don't do is 3D."

two things they don't do, actually, they don't even do accurate colour rendition.

You know, after reading all the magazines all the years, all the 'accepted thought' about video reproduction ... all the glorified BS about trying to achieve the "NTSC" or "ATSC" standard .... what people really need to think about is that color-scale chart they see in those magazine reviews: there's this huge range of color, yet the actual reproduction range is this tiny triangle in the center. (I'm speaking mostly of how Home Theater Review shows it these days, but they're not the first.)

So, basically, the whole diagram of color is what our eyes can really see, but we're supposed to be excited about this little range in the center being "NTSC accurate". And, for the life of me, I've owned an HD tube set and many HD panels over the years (helped tweak many friends' sets too), but I've never encountered one where I said, "Yeah, I prefer the Warm color temperature." --BTW, I'm all for tweaking a set so contrast isn't maxed, and shadow detail is pronounced, yet blacks are as solid as possible.

But, the bottom line is that Sharp Quattron's PUT TO SHAME anything else I've seen. Unfortunately, Sharp doesn't "hype" their technology enough, and in the stores it's too hard to realize the full impact of the technology ... although I know many comment that, "Yes, the color is really good on those."

I find it ironic defending Sharp's technology, too: I'm sure there are those who (maybe like yourself) are "ISF certified", or pay to have hours of 'expert calibration' done ... just to be "pure". ....And then, they'll turn right around and extol the virtues of a video processor, line doubling, and other "artificial" picture enhancements. Why is it "ok" to fuss with a picture for detail, or (if anyone's read today's Zyber column) mash-up the picture for 'constant height projection', ...but yet it's 'taboo' to 'interpolate' color, in the effort of making it more life-like?

Until you've lived with a Quattron with an open-mind (open-eye?), you have no idea what you're missing. (I'm actually stating this for those other than David, who I'm sure is unlikely to be moved one iota from dogma.) My current set is last year's 3D LED edge-lit model. Plus, I put my money where my mouth is, and also have a smaller non-3D Quattron for another room. I can only imagine with full LED backlight that Sharp's new Quattron's will standout even more.

The yellow-pixel technology doesn't just make jewelry look like real gold, or the yellow in Sprint's logos look like the print ads, ...it makes reds really have depth & warmth (not just 'cold red' like on other sets). And the grass vistas on nature programs make it look like you could walk up and grab a blade. All the while, amazingly, fleshtones look natural and alive.

[David Susilo]

Clearly you don't care about colour accuracy... And that's fine. But at the same time it's VERY clear that you don't understand the purpose of calibration. Until you really understand what it is and its purpose, it's best to keep your misconception and misunderstanding to yourself. Calibration has nothing to do withh only reproducing colours in the "small triangle".

Ps: there is no such thing as "all digital receiver". If it is "all digital" you won't be able to hear anything. What you hear is analog, what you see is analog.

[David Susilo]

PS: I've "lived" with Quattron for more than a month during my long-term review of the TV... From the first day to the last, I can never get used to the overly artificial colours. It was one of the longest month in my display-review life. t

[Mayhemm]

Ok, I have to admit the first thing that went through my mind upon the announcement of the Quattron series was "Ok, did Sharp license Sanyo's Quaddrive technology or just rip it off?"

[David Susilo]

And unlike Quattron, Sanyo's QuadDrive actually help in reproducing a more accurate colour.

[MileHigh AI]

overly artificial color? accurate color?

Have you even seen the Quattron?????
I've displayed all the Quattrons next to the top Sony's, Samsung's, LG's, etc.
I even gave the other TVs the advantage of Blu-Ray while the Quattron displayed DVD and it still beat them all (with respect to Samsung being the closest in matching) in providing the best overall quality color. This is right out of the box, no "calibrations" no setup just from the box to the stand with player and HDMI cables. Go watch Pirates of the Caribbean or Iron Man or just about any PIXAR film on the Quattron and you will notice just how well that 4th color gives the most realistic color. Hell, go watch any Dwayne Johnson movie put the Quattron side by side another TV set, do not change any settings and every other set Dwayne Johnson will either look yellow or pale, while on the Quattron a nice tan brown. Now.....which is more accurate, the TV that already portrays the real color or the one you have to change the tint, color, contrast, etc. to even come close?

And 3D? psshhhhhh, just about every person that has seen the Quattron mentions to me how it feels like it's already coming out at them. That Yellow, mixed with the RGB adds so much depth, you don't even need 3D.
And don't even get me started on the Quattron's ability to amplify reg DVDs and burned DVDs.

Im excited for the LE830's, as when the 810's came out I thought just add WiFi and you have the perfect TV.

Now if only Sharp could get their Blu-Ray players to rival Samsung & Sony's Blu-Ray players......

[vinnie97]

^Astroturfin? O.o

[Josh Z]

I even gave the other TVs the advantage of Blu-Ray while the Quattron displayed DVD and it still beat them all (with respect to Samsung being the closest in matching) in providing the best overall quality color. This is right out of the box, no "calibrations" no setup just from the box to the stand with player and HDMI cables. Go watch Pirates of the Caribbean or Iron Man or just about any PIXAR film on the Quattron and you will notice just how well that 4th color gives the most realistic color. Hell, go watch any Dwayne Johnson movie put the Quattron side by side another TV set, do not change any settings and every other set Dwayne Johnson will either look yellow or pale, while on the Quattron a nice tan brown. Now.....which is more accurate, the TV that already portrays the real color or the one you have to change the tint, color, contrast, etc. to even come close?

So, your argument is that the Quattron is more "accurate" because you couldn't be bothered to do even a rudimentary calibration on the other set? Really, that's your argument?

[Gunyaga]

actually, Josh, I think his argument was that yellow=3D and Dwayne Johnson looks more tan on showroom settings from Sharp than Samsung.

Either way, his argument still makes exactly the same amount of sense

[MileHigh AI]

So, your argument is that the Quattron is more "accurate" because you couldn't be bothered to do even a rudimentary calibration on the other set? Really, that's your argument?

actually, Josh, I think his argument was that yellow=3D and Dwayne Johnson looks more tan on showroom settings from Sharp than Samsung.

Either way, his argument still makes exactly the same amount of sense

A) The Quattron gives off the more accurate color automatically, while YOU NEED TO calibrate the other TVs to accomplish this. Why buy a TV I need to calibrate when I can spend less on the Quattron and not have to calibrate.....Most Television buyers are going to buy a TV, take it out of box, hook up their players, DVRs, games to it and go. No calibration, no tinkering with the settings. Also, most buyers also figure the
stores/vendors are going to mess with the settings to make every TV look like it's absolutely perfect then once it goes home, the TV never looks like it did in the store. By simply keeping all the TVs on their original playing field, the Quattron looks the best and the buyer isn't coming back saying "The picture isn't like how you had displayed, I'm upset"

B) MY point though was towards the person who kept calling the Quattron's color artificial...which is ridiculous as Yellow was never truly seen on TV's before the Quattron.

C) It gives off a 3D feel, not 3D but close enough to where you do not need a $4000 TV, $200 glasses, and like 30 media choices to enjoy the TV.

D) I said Samsung came closest in matching the Sharp Quattron, if anything Dwayne Johnson looks tan on a Samsung, natural on a Quattron, and a ghost on a Sony, LG, Toshiba, Panasonic, and Sylvania.


Also in regards to the astro-turfin...I recommend Samsung over any other company, unless it is specifically the Quattron, then they are almost dead even. Afterwards, it's Sony, then Sharp.

[David Susilo]

Quattron does not need calibration? Bwa ha ha ha!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!! It's one of the worst TV out of the box!!! Every professional calibrators agree on this!!! You're saying your eyes are more accurate than $12k colorimeter and experts around the world? Good on ya!

[Shuebox]

Quattron does not need calibration? Bwa ha ha ha!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!! It's one of the worst TV out of the box!!! Every professional calibrators agree on this!!! You're saying your eyes are more accurate than $12k colorimeter and experts around the world? Good on ya!

Ditto.
First time I calibrated a Quattron I almost couldnt recomend it. Especially bedside a calibrated Panasonic VT20. The fact that when you play with the cms the decoder destroys the colours doesnt help at all. If you do the White balance and leave the cms the tv is a mid range performer.
And just so you know red and green make yellow. No real need for a yellow pixel untill they start broadcasting with a 4th colour.
P.S. We had Meet The Robinsons playing on the tv and in no way did it look as good as it should have. Not a Pixar movie yes but a beautifully animated movie none the less. 4.5 stars for picture.