Panasonic Prices and Dates 2011 LCDs

[TheDickWard]

As of now, there's still no official word on 2011 plasmas.

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...52011053241428

[Landy]

Personally, I think there's still too many problems associated with plasmas. Lots of people say burn in is a thing of the past, but that's BS. Doesn't matter if you rename it "image retention" it still is burn in, and sometimes it doesn't go away.

When I got my Panasonic 3d plasma just before Christmas, I only had it for a couple weeks before I started seeing shadows from black bars on the sides and even a faint B in the upper left corner from the Bell satellite TV guide. And no, I didn't watch standard definition programs for very long, and only had the guide up for a few minutes at a time. The TV was exchanged, and although I don't have the black bars (because now whenever watch something in 1.33:1 on TV I stretch or zoom), I once again have a ghost of the letter B.

Two faulty TVs is possible, but I really doubt it. I've never had problems with my Sony LCD, and whenever this TV conks out I'm definitely going back to LCD.

[MentokTheMindTaker]

Hey look it is official word on Panasonic's 2011 Plasmas!

You might want to check Engadget occasionally...

[vinnie97]

Image retention is *not* the equivalent of burn-in, until it doesn't go away. I'm not too pleased with how Panasonic has failed to take the torch from Pioneer in delivering exemplary plasma sets. I've had Pioneer's last Plasma since 2009 and image retention has only ever lasted for mere seconds, with no hints of burn-in to be seen.

[Lee Stewart]

Image retention is *not* the equivalent of burn-in, until it doesn't go away. I'm not too pleased with how Panasonic has failed to take the torch from Pioneer in delivering exemplary plasma sets. I've had Pioneer's last Plasma since 2009 and image retention has only ever lasted for mere seconds, with no hints of burn-in to be seen.

What size, when did you buy it and how much did you pay for your Pioneer?

[vinnie97]

50" (111FD), March 2009 and too much! ;-)

[Landy]

Image retention is *not* the equivalent of burn-in, until it doesn't go away. I'm not too pleased with how Panasonic has failed to take the torch from Pioneer in delivering exemplary plasma sets. I've had Pioneer's last Plasma since 2009 and image retention has only ever lasted for mere seconds, with no hints of burn-in to be seen.

I know that, you know that, and almost everyone else knows that -- except of course Panasonic's reps and retailer reps, who try to say that plasmas no longer burn in, it's just image retention. But then again, they don't care about the truth, they just want to sell products.

[Wolvie]

Personally, I think there's still too many problems associated with plasmas. Lots of people say burn in is a thing of the past, but that's BS. Doesn't matter if you rename it "image retention" it still is burn in, and sometimes it doesn't go away.

When I got my Panasonic 3d plasma just before Christmas, I only had it for a couple weeks before I started seeing shadows from black bars on the sides and even a faint B in the upper left corner from the Bell satellite TV guide. And no, I didn't watch standard definition programs for very long, and only had the guide up for a few minutes at a time. The TV was exchanged, and although I don't have the black bars (because now whenever watch something in 1.33:1 on TV I stretch or zoom), I once again have a ghost of the letter B.

Two faulty TVs is possible, but I really doubt it. I've never had problems with my Sony LCD, and whenever this TV conks out I'm definitely going back to LCD.

I read somewhere that it's recommended to "break in" your new plasma during the first 100 hours, a concept similar to new audio speakers. As I recall, this was needed to evenly balance out the phosphors due to their self-emitting nature. When I fired up my Panny plasma years ago, I did just that -- initially avoiding SD, static or black bar programs -- and have never experienced burn-in (knock on wood). On the few occasions I fall asleep with the HDTV on, the image retention rarely lasts that long...which is pretty good considering my TH-58PZ750U lacks the pixel orbiting feature now common on current plasmas.

Personally I will NEVER give up my Panny plasma for an LCD. You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Just can't beat the picture quality and black levels for the price (save for the Kuro, RIP). When my Panny goes to the digital ether, my next HDTV will definitely be a plasma. Can't wait to see what Panasonic has in store by then!