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Old 10-28-2009, 07:10 PM
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yeah yeah yeah , pretty lame for a doom and gloom comment

This is the first big title of the 4Q since you did not want to count Snow White.

Not a bad start.
Hey! I made my obligatory D & G post.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:10 PM
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But it does not negate the fact that Paramount does not have confidence that downloads are going to replace optical disc anytime soon.
There could be many reasons for a delayed VOD release, but other studios are hopping onboard with VOD making sure to mention it TV spots along with DVD and BD. Profit is greater on discs vs. VOD right now so it makes sense to make the 'most' in the first few weeks.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:13 PM
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Note that he states that it is Blu-Ray that can turn the industry around. Not downloads/streaming. Not VOD via cable and sat.

Fact of the matter is that Transformers 2 was not even available for download and that tells you something when you consider it is the highest grossing movie of 2009.
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This confirms my hypothesis. The general public is a moronic ass. It will buy any piece of shite that drops out of Hollywoods anus. gawwwwd, have we really come to this as a society?

Oh well, one good thing comes from this. I now don't fear my own death quite so much. On the contrary, if this is what we've come to I'll welcome it with open arms.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:16 PM
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Hey! I made my obligatory D & G post.
I appreciate your role.

Kinda hard to see gloom and doom with those kinda numbers but I really do appreciate someone trying.

Seriously, those are above even some of the projections and estimations I was getting all week and being October numbers, thats actually a pleasant surprise.

Really interested in getting the charts now and the top 20 Blu-ray share for the week as well.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:20 PM
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I wonder how many Blu-Ray copies of this will move between now and the end of the year? I can easily see 2 million copies sold on Blu-Ray.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:22 PM
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I wonder how many Blu-Ray copies of this will move between now and the end of the year? I can easily see 2 million copies sold on Blu-Ray.
Try 3 million at least.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:23 PM
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I wonder how many Blu-Ray copies of this will move between now and the end of the year? I can easily see 2 million copies sold on Blu-Ray.
2x or 3 x initial week sales within 8 weeks is reasonable for a big title and this will be a big buy for new Blu-ray hardware owners as well.

2-3 M seems real reasonable,
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:25 PM
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I appreciate your role.

Kinda hard to see gloom and doom with those kinda numbers but I really do appreciate someone trying.

Seriously, those are above even some of the projections and estimations I was getting all week and being October numbers, thats actually a pleasant surprise.

Really interested in getting the charts now and the top 20 Blu-ray share for the week as well.
Should be interesting to see how TF2 (sales of the DVD) stack up to TF. According to The Numbers = 13.2M
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2x or 3 x initial week sales within 8 weeks is reasonable for a big title and this will be a big buy for new Blu-ray hardware owners as well.

2-3 M seems real reasonable,
Looking at the historical DVD sales of Transformers 1 on DVD it looks like 2.5 million on Blu-Ray (give or take a few hundred thousand) would be an accurate gauge. Of course the economy was better in 2007.. But there are also lots of new Blu-Ray owners coming on board. Some Black Friday sales selling this title for $10 would move a lot of copies as well.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:33 PM
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Should be interesting to see how TF2 (sales of the DVD) stack up to TF. According to The Numbers = 13.2M
7.5 M x 2 as a rule of thumb would give 15M.

This is also going to sell more of the original Transformers as well now, especially on Blu-ray as some that bought the DVD version will now want to get the original on Blu-ray as well.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:35 PM
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Anybody remember the TDK claims for the first week?

I know there was a 1.7M Blu-ray claim for worldwide sales including to rental outlets and that was about 1 M Blu-ray in the first week IIRC.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:37 PM
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for comparison from The Dark Knight's release week


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Batman Flies High on Charts


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By : Thomas K. Arnold | Posted: 18 Dec 2008
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Batman ruled the home entertainment charts the week ended Dec. 14, as Warner Home Video’s The Dark Knight became not just the week’s top seller, but also one of the two best-selling home video releases so far this year.

The Dark Knight sold more than 10 million discs its first week in stores, Warner reported. Factoring in sales to rental dealers as well as consumers, The Dark Knight sold 13.5 million discs worldwide, including a record 1.7 million on the nascent high-definition Blu-ray Disc format.

In addition, nearly 300,000 purchasers of the Dark Knight disc activated the digital copy that came packaged with it, Warner reported.

After just one week in stores, The Dark Knight is already nipping at the heels of the year’s top-selling home video release, Paramount/DreamWorks’ Iron Man. It is expected to surpass Iron Man to become the year’s top seller within the coming week.

Finishing a distant second on the Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales chart was 20th Century Fox’s Horton Hears a Who!, while Walt Disney Studios’ complete fourth season set of the popular TV show “Lost” debuted at No. 7. The seven other top sellers are all holdovers from previous weeks.

In rental stores The Dark Knight also debuted at No. 1, bumping the previous week’s top renter, Universal Studios’ Wanted, to No. 2 on Home Media Magazine’s weekly home video rental chart.

Horton Hears a Who! debuted at No. 4, generating about 59% as much rental activity as The Dark Knight.

The Dark Knight also bowed at No. 1 on the Nielsen VideoScan Blu-ray Disc sales chart.

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Old 10-28-2009, 07:38 PM
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http://www.homemediamagazine.com/new...-records-14125

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Dark Knight Shatters Retail Records


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By : Erik Gruenwedel | Posted: 17 Dec 2008
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Warner Home Video’s The Dark Knight destroyed the all-time Blu-ray Disc and 2008 standard DVD sales records with combined first-week global sales — including rental — of 13.5 million units, according to studio research.

Paramount Home Entertainment’s Iron Man previously held both records. The Robert Downey Jr. starrer sold about 7.2 million combined DVD and Blu-ray units (850,000) during its first week of release in November.

The second Batman film of the venerable franchise from director Christopher Nolan sold more than 1.7 million Blu-ray units, which includes domestic sales, in addition to results from the United Kingdom, Japan, Benelux (Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg) and Australia.

Warner said 300,000 consumers activated digital copies included with the Blu-ray and special edition DVD releases in the first week. The title also is the No. 1 selling movie this year on iTunes.

The Dark Knight recently earned a Golden Globe best supporting actor nomination for the late Heath Ledger and remains the top-grossing box office film in 2008, with U.S. ticket sales exceeding $530 million.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:41 PM
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Batman’ Could Save the Day


By : Thomas K. Arnold | Posted: 10 Dec 2008
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Can Batman save the home entertainment industry?

In a season of hit-or-miss theatrical blockbusters, where some of the misses have been by as much as 30% off target, Warner Home Video’s The Dark Knight landed squarely on the bull's eye, selling more than 3 million units its first day in stores, 600,000 of them on the high-definition Blu-ray Disc format.

That sets the stage for the Batman sequel to become the top-selling home video release of the year, mimicking its performance on the big screen, where its domestic gross of $530.3 million stands unmatched by any other theatrical release in the past decade.

“We were extremely pleased with first day sales, and we now think it will easily be the biggest title of this year in home video,” said Ron Sanders, president of Warner Home Video.

He notes that the Warner number includes sellthrough only in the United States, Canada and United Kingdom; sales to rental dealers are not factored in.

Sanders also projects that the Blu-ray Disc sales tally alone could rise to 1 million units by Saturday. “In the first two days across those three territories, Blu-ray Disc sales are running between 25% and 30% of total sales, which is a massive number,” he said. “We had expected Blu-ray to account for a significant percentage of sales, but not quite this high, which speaks well for the format. It’s really catching on with consumers.”

The previous Blu-ray Disc sales record was set earlier in the fourth quarter by Paramount Home Entertainment’s Iron Man, which sold more than 500,000 high-definition discs its first week. The Dark Knight shattered that record — in a single day.

“Blu-ray is clearly catching on with consumers,” Sanders said.

There are bigger implications as well. For the home entertainment industry, the DVD/Blu-ray Disc release of The Dark Knight wasn’t just about one title, albeit the biggest title of the year. It was more about the short-term future of the business.

Throughout the fourth quarter, studio executives, key retailers and analysts have been closely monitoring sales of the summer blockbusters. With total home video sales projected to be off by as much as 6% this year, the performance of the hits has taken on special significance.

Back when the DVD business first began to slow four years ago, the first cracks to appear were in the sales totals of the megahits, beginning with Shrek 2, which sold phenomenally well upon its November 2004 release — but not as well as DreamWorks had anticipated.

From that point on, the video-to-theatrical ratio for the big-screen blockbusters continued to decline — and, with it, the fortunes of the entire home entertainment business, which, like its theatrical counterpart, had grown increasingly dependent on the hits.

This year the fourth-quarter parade of summer theatrical blockbusters has had a spotty performance. Some titles, such as Iron Man, did exceptionally well; others, such as Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, could have done better.

The day The Dark Knight went on sale, a Wall Street Journal article said the film’s home video sales performance would be a bellwether for the entire industry.

“When the Warner Bros. film The Dark Knight shattered box office records this summer, it was hailed as a sign that Hollywood can repel an economic downturn,” the article said. “But as that latest Batman installment is released on DVD … it could show that Hollywood’s defenses against a recession are crumbling. Batman’s fate in a declining DVD market will be just one way the movie industry’s claim of being recession-proof will be tested.”
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/new...save-day-14069
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