AACS v3 cracked before the new discs are released.

[45rpm]

I am not sure why HD DED is being attacked for pointing out the obvious. The OP made NO mention whatsoever about BD+. He did not say BD+ was better. He did not say BD+ was going to work out. He did not say BD+ was being compared to AACS. Nothing.

And yet, the first two responders to this thread chose to immediately compare AACS to BD+. Why? There is no reason to do so except because there is nothing really to say about AACS being cracked, so WHY NOT attack the other format? That was HD DED's point. You have nothing positive or negative to say about this, so instead you guys choose to attack the other format because it gives you something to say. This is the hostility that HD DED was talking about.

If this was posted in the HD DVD Software section, then there might not be any mention of BD+, but this is "SMACKDOWN". So putting something about a flaw of a format is hostility by itself.

[Thulium]

Bad analogy. Breaking DRM does not equal theft. Some people break DRM just to have backup copies. What is so immoral about that? You talk like I just conspired to commit genocide against hungry orphans in Sudan. Tell me: What is so wrong with having a backup copy? And what does any DRM stop? The pirates? No freakin' way. The will always defeat and DRM. So the only thing DRM does is rape our rights, our right to fair use.

My point is this: All DRM will be defeated, so if you are betting on the DRM of a certain format, you are betting on the wrong horse. To prove my point that BD+ will be defeated, I offer you this example AACS v.3 being defeated before a movie even came out with it.

Actually, breaking legal DRM is theft. If you have an authorized copy of something, it is stolen. If a company is selling something that has legally restricted use, and you own a version that does not have the restrictions you have an illegal version.

That doesn't mean there isn't an argument for a fair use duplicate... If AACS does not have managed copy, it is in violation of the fair use act and should be fought on those grounds.

That's what makes BD+ infinitely better than AACS: As long as it supports managed copy (and it allegedly does) and by watermarking allows police to track down illegal copies, there is no legal reason to break it so any attempt to break it could and should be construed as criminal activity. I understand that knowledge seekers could and should try to understand it and by "hacking" can discover vulnerabilities that need to be fixed. Thus "white hat" hacking is still possible, but there is no such thing as "white hat" cracking of legal DRM.

[onePIMPSLAP]

We all know that bd+ will be cracked, it's just a matter of time.

Cracking a code is not the problem...it's the people who buy or acquire the copied material that are the problem. These are the people that Disney, FOX and the other studios are most worried about.

I really don't know how bad this piracy problem is. Maybe I'm naive. I know several people who do it for music and SD DVDs. I have no interest in that, I would rather buy it and support the "artist". But that's me.