What? SONY to Post LOSS, First in 14 years - Looks Like Blu N' PS3's Aren't Enough

[kowhite]

Originally Posted by gijoela

Oh, stop crying. I love HD in ALL forms, including Blu Ray. This post about SONY's troubles only signifies that NO ONE is immune to a VERY competitive marketplace in terms of content delivery and that no single format will ever prevail as one again, not in our lifetime.

How does it signify that? How does an article that talks about an operating loss based on foreign exchange, digital cameras and low HDTV sales and pricing indicate anything, whatsoever, about Blu-ray?

What type of moronic logic makes you read an article that says nothing about Blu-ray, and nothing more than "Sony makes PS3"...to come to these conclusions? Seriously...did you even read the article?

[gijoela]

Originally Posted by xolan99

So people aren't double dipping on Blu-ray but they would've totally double dipped on HD DVD? Is that what you're saying?

Did I mention HD DVD? Dude, it's a dead format, like gone, over, finished...

But since you mentioned it, the HDDVD format was cheaper to produce and seemed, I repeat, seemed like a natural transition for the public to better understand, the shift to high definition dvd, something I think could have helped it's perception in the marketplace.

Blu Ray on the other hand struggles to convey the high definition DVD message because they cannot use it!

Clearly High Definition DVD makes a hell of a lot more sense to a mass market consumer than the word blu ray disc.

In case you didn't know, DVD replicator machines were easily and cheaply able to be converted to HD DVD replicating, with blu ray on the other hand needing all new machinery.

Either format faced a dilution of market share of physical media, something that is moving forward and not back at this point. A huge pool of consumers is already very used to downloading it's music, they will do the same with movies in time.

How many people care about extras on these HD discs? I for one just want the best presentation of the fricking feature. I would rather the studios offer additional content ONLY via download and not inside the packaging of my discs. That way if I want it I can get it, even if I have to pay for it.

I am tired of paying for additional content that I don't want or use, ever.

Consumers are being trained on less, not more. CD album sales are down because people pick and choose their content, their OWN songs. They are trained to this and the movie business will succumb to the same standard.

[sneakypete]

[Merrick97]

Originally Posted by gijoela

Did I mention HD DVD? Dude, it's a dead format, like gone, over, finished...

But since you mentioned it, the HDDVD format was cheaper to produce and seemed, I repeat, seemed like a natural transition for the public to better understand, the shift to high definition dvd, something I think could have helped it's perception in the marketplace.

Blu Ray on the other hand struggles to convey the high definition DVD message because they cannot use it!

Clearly High Definition DVD makes a hell of a lot more sense to a mass market consumer than the word blu ray disc.

In case you didn't know, DVD replicator machines were easily and cheaply able to be converted to HD DVD replicating, with blu ray on the other hand needing all new machinery.

Either format faced a dilution of market share of physical media, something that is moving forward and not back at this point. A huge pool of consumers is already very used to downloading it's music, they will do the same with movies in time.

How many people care about extras on these HD discs? I for one just want the best presentation of the fricking feature. I would rather the studios offer additional content ONLY via download and not inside the packaging of my discs. That way if I want it I can get it, even if I have to pay for it.

I am tired of paying for additional content that I don't want or use, ever.

Consumers are being trained on less, not more. CD album sales are down because people pick and choose their content, their OWN songs. They are trained to this and the movie business will succumb to the same standard.

I figured it out.


You're just upset because bluray posted its highest marketshare ever.

Here it is for you:


Im sure you will respond with bluray sales being down from last week, which was also a record setting week.

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by gijoela

Did I mention HD DVD? Dude, it's a dead format, like gone, over, finished...

But since you mentioned it, the HDDVD format was cheaper to produce and seemed, I repeat, seemed like a natural transition for the public to better understand, the shift to high definition dvd, something I think could have helped it's perception in the marketplace.

Blu Ray on the other hand struggles to convey the high definition DVD message because they cannot use it!

Clearly High Definition DVD makes a hell of a lot more sense to a mass market consumer than the word blu ray disc.

In case you didn't know, DVD replicator machines were easily and cheaply able to be converted to HD DVD replicating, with blu ray on the other hand needing all new machinery.

Either format faced a dilution of market share of physical media, something that is moving forward and not back at this point. A huge pool of consumers is already very used to downloading it's music, they will do the same with movies in time.

How many people care about extras on these HD discs? I for one just want the best presentation of the fricking feature. I would rather the studios offer additional content ONLY via download and not inside the packaging of my discs. That way if I want it I can get it, even if I have to pay for it.

I am tired of paying for additional content that I don't want or use, ever.

Consumers are being trained on less, not more. CD album sales are down because people pick and choose their content, their OWN songs. They are trained to this and the movie business will succumb to the same standard.

I agree, just as you pick individual songs, everyone will choose their favourite movie scenes..................

It's also clear the DVD's with extras model has been a complete failure, while there is little difference between downloading an MP3 for your portable player and a HD movie for your large HDTV.

[Pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD

PS3 got destroyed in December. Thursdays numbers should be fun.

The only destruction that I've witnessed thus far involves HDDVD. Permanently!!

Pro-B

[sneakypete]

wow, it reaks of fanboy in here.

[gijoela]

Originally Posted by Pro-bassoonist

The only destruction that I've witnessed thus far involves HDDVD. Permanently!!

Pro-B

And definitively. It was nuked by the WB!

[gijoela]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

I agree, just as you pick individual songs, everyone will choose their favourite movie scenes..................

It's also clear the DVD's with extras model has been a complete failure, while there is little difference between downloading an MP3 for your portable player and a HD movie for your large HDTV.

Oh sure, the masses just drool all over themselves regarding extras. The only extra that matters are digital copy files because they are useful.

And oh yes, I just love watch STANDARD DEF extras on my fucking blu ray!

WHoA!

[bluskiessmingatme]

Gijoela said: "I love HD in ALL forms, including Blu Ray"

I say, "BS!" with a capital B and a capital S! Gijioela, you are so damn hot for Blu-ray to fail. But why the F*** have you got two Bluray players???????!!!!!!

[gijoela]

Originally Posted by Merrick97

I figured it out.
You're just upset because bluray posted its highest marketshare ever.
Im sure you will respond with bluray sales being down from last week, which was also a record setting week.

In fact I am not upset at all. More players mean more software sold, doh. What is a fact is that the PS3 is the THIRD SELLING console with an EXCLUSIVE BLU RAY PLAYER on board! That is a sad fact buddy.

The Dark Knight saved the day for now. For now. What movie coming on Blu Ray will bolster sales in this next quarter? Little Miss Sunshine? What film from the last quarter of '08 at the box office will make the 2nd quarter great for Blu? Marley and Me?

The wii has sold three times the number of PS3's and has NO DVD player, No Blu Ray player and is still, still the most popular gaming console. Why don't you spend time explaining why the PS3 is in 3rd place. Is it the economy? It's price? It's failure rate? It's performance? It's lack of memory? It's lack of games? None of those are true. So why is it? By all accounts, it should be the MOST popular device on the market with the best value. But consumers just don't see blu in it. A sad fact.

[GizmoDVD]

Originally Posted by viewsonic

Correct me if I'm wide of the mark here but didn't it sell half of the amount the 360 did but at twice the price therefore bringing in the same revenue?

If the 360 outsold it 2:1 at the same price THAT would be 'destroyed'.

That's a good spin. The SDF would be proud.

[GizmoDVD]

Originally Posted by Pro-bassoonist

The only destruction that I've witnessed thus far involves HDDVD. Permanently!!

Pro-B

Oh slam! Still bringing up HD DVD a year later? Man you need to get over that. Hey, still waiting for response to that Warner comment you made yesterday while you were probably a bit tipsy. Please, let me know.

[gijoela]

Originally Posted by bluskiessmingatme

Gijioela, if you are so damn hot for Blu-ray to fail, then why the F*** have you got two Bluray players???????!!!!!!

I am not hot for it fail, I love HD, all things HD. I just cant handle the one-sided b.s. that is spewed from the same ten people on here. Do I have 10,000 posts and counting? I mean if those guys maybe including yourself love a format this much how bout you spend some time *watching* it instead of writing here to counter every claim that people choose to make contrary to pro blu opinions?

There are many decent choices that consumers have today thank god that offer quality HD entertainment. For throngs of consumers HD TV via satellite or cable or any other fucking way is totally impressive and entertaining. A point some bludots just can't handle as they only see one color out of their eyes.

I watch movies in and out of the theaters all the time. That is what true enthusiasts do. I am loyal to movies not formats.

Let's see, how many of these so-called enthusiasts here have actually seen the following like myself? Slumdog Millionaire? Doubt? Benjamin Button? Gran Torino? Revolutionary Road? Defiance? Vicky Christina Barcelona? The Wrestler? Will the masses buy these titles for a premium to own? I'd be shit shocked if they do. I might add that these are mostly really great films with Gran Torino and Revolutionary Road high on my list.

[bluskiessmingatme]

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD

Oh slam! Still bringing up HD DVD a year later? Man you need to get over that. Hey, still waiting for response to that Warner comment you made yesterday while you were probably a bit tipsy. Please, let me know.

Gizmo, I think you are addressing that to the wrong person. You need to get in touch with all the HD DVD fans who carry an overwhelming grudge against Blu-ray, Sony, the BDA, Warner Bros., and everyone else they blame for their defeat, and tell them it;s been a year, get over it! It's so funny, the one company they never show hatred towards is the one who deserted them, left them high and dry with just an "Oh, well." Toshiba (which I think is Japanese for their response to HD DVD fans, "Tough shit.")