Bluray must act fast to catch HD DVD!

[Master X]

BD only has 58% total share and HD DVD has 42%.

[Master X]

thats not this weeks numbers its 71% blu-ray to 29% HD DVD if you are only going to go by the numbers you pick why don't you just go back to apr 2006 and claim HD DVD has a 100% share its the same thing as what your doing by picking a good week for HD DVD and trying to use that weeks numbers.

I was going by total numbers overall.

[Blu-heaven]

Are you kidding me what kind of stupid topic is this "Bluray must act fast to catch HD DVD!" it supposed to be the other way around" HD-DVD must act fast to catch Blu-ray!" Somebody smokin too much dooobey

[Master X]

in that case, the total over all also includes about 3 months worth of sales when blu-ray was not even on the market yet. but you go a head and go by whatever numbers make you feel better about your format.

Like how the BDA talks about the first 3 months of 07 which had hardly any HD DVD movies coming out.

[divian]

Like how the BDA talks about the first 3 months of 07 which had hardly any HD DVD movies coming out.

There are more announced releases now on HD DVD than Blu Ray.

By the way ...is Rhino records neutral or just HD DVD?

[Kenshiro]

What do you guys and gals think?

Maybe Blu-ray should learn this technique

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_running

[Grubert]

I guess you feel to hurt by the fact that with Amazon it shows an HD DVD title in it's top 10 going and remanding strong, again a title that IS HD DVD that hit the #4 spot of this top ten that Blu-Ray NEVER did EVER

You hate that don't you that's why you avoid it

amazon is one store.

Leading at one store does not mean leading at overall sales.

[dobyblue]

I was going by total numbers overall.

Not bad for having to catch up on HD DVD's few months head start is it?

[1080p]

amazon is one store.

Leading at one store does not mean leading at overall sales.

Yes Amazon is 1 store a big major one

[Grubert]

Yes Amazon is 1 store a big major one

amazon North America segment sales, representing the Company's U.S. (.com) and Canadian (.ca) sites, were $1.62 billion during Q1 2007. Let us say it's 1.5 billion for the .com and 120 million for the .ca.

Two thirds of their sales were on media. That is $1 billion. That includes DVD, CD and books. Let's say that between half of that and two-thirds were for home video. That's $500-$660 million.

Meanwhile, total home video sales during the period were $3.5 billion.

So amazon accounts for 14-19% of total home video sales.


http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070424/20070424006365.html?.v=1
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6435138.html

[Vidfreek]

Not bad for having to catch up on HD DVD's few months head start is it?

HD DVDs head start was almost nothing, and now Blurays lead is almost nothing, a few hundred thousand movies TOPS is the lead Bluray is running with right now, the 79% to 21% doesnt mean squat if Bluray is barely leading in overall sales, especially with a much higher player ratio....

Even if HD DVD was still on the market for the first 3 months, it STILL didnt release almost any titles, so your argument really doesnt mean much, Bluray luckily caught up while HD DVD had no titles, so Bluray has a slight lead overall since those 3 months with no movies counteracted their first 3 months with no Bluray at all.....I would love the see the equal numbers or better sales for HD DVD if they HAD released movies in that 3 month period, Bluray wouldnt be winning anything right now, but alas that didnt happen

but I feel bad for Bluray being that its lead isnt very high in overall sales and they have such a huge hardware advantage right now, for all the reasons out there, Bluray should be crushing HD DVD in overall sales, but that just isnt happening now is it and no amount of spin can change that fact.....if you take the general current sales rounded, its about 1.2 million Bluray movies sold and about 1 million HD DVD movies sold, thats only a 1.2:1 ratio so tell me how is that massively destroying HD DVD in sales?

[Grubert]

Even if HD DVD was still on the market for the first 3 months, it STILL didnt release almost any titles

Actually it was a little over two months (April 18 - June 20). In those nine weeks, there were twenty-eight HD DVD titles released. That's over three titles/week on average. Not what anyone would consider "not releasing almost any titles."

Bluray luckily caught up while HD DVD had no titles, so Bluray has a slight lead overall since those 3 months with no movies counteracted their first 3 months with no Bluray at all.....

In 2007 there were three weeks with no HD DVD movies (those of March 6, March 13 and March 20). Not three months.

[Vidfreek]

From January 30th through March 29th there was a total of 15 HD DVD releases, Bluray crushed that number in movie releases yet it still hasnt helped them past a 1.2:1 lead overall

[Fozziwig]

but I feel bad for Bluray being that its lead isnt very high in overall sales and they have such a huge hardware advantage right now, for all the reasons out there, Bluray should be crushing HD DVD in overall sales, but that just isnt happening now is it and no amount of spin can change that fact.....if you take the general current sales rounded, its about 1.2 million Bluray movies sold and about 1 million HD DVD movies sold, thats only a 1.2:1 ratio so tell me how is that massively destroying HD DVD in sales?

Nielsen VideoScan report the Since Inception sales ratio at 58:42 in Blu-ray's favour (or 1.4:1 if you prefer).

That means that if HD DVD have sold 1 million units then Blu-ray has sold 1.4 million.

I do agree that Blu-ray should really be doing better at this stage and it will be interesting to see how the sales pan out over the rest of the summer.

[Grubert]

From January 30th through March 29th there was a total of 15 HD DVD releases, Bluray crushed that number in movie releases yet it still hasnt helped them past a 1.2:1 lead overall

Where is the part where you admit what you said was utterly untrue?

(BTW it's not 15 releases - it's 19; and as fozziwig said it's not 1.2:1 but rather 1.4:1)

Get your fucking facts straight is all I say.