04-21-2007 08:51 AM #31Member
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Wait you guys are saying that WB is making more money then any other studio on High definition format by selling both formats with hd supplying them 40 percent ???
Then you guys say Universal should go neutral so that they can make more money , but Fox and Disney and Sony should just continue to make less profit?? Wow Money Hungry fox , disney and Sony are behind WB as far as overal Sales go , and they sell only Blu-ray , so your theories that if Universal sold blu-ray only they would be making more profit is bs .. In order for any studio to catch up to WB they will have to sell both.....the future is Neutral and WB is the LEADER....
04-21-2007 07:03 PM #32Member
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My HD DVD list: "Clerks 2", "The World's Fastest Indian", "The Thing", "V For Vendetta", "Enter the Dragon" and "Casablanca".
My Blu-ray list: "Warriors Of Heaven and Earth", "Curse Of the Golden Flower", "Kung Fu Hustle", Weeds Season 2, "Rent", "Tekkonkinkreet",
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04-21-2007 07:34 PM #33
Sure HD DVD had a head start but tell didnt have a gaming system to help.
Sony knew the ps3 would push bluray kinda like the ps2 helped dvd.
If bluray wasnt in the ps3. Bluray would bve dead. I still wish MS put HD DVD into the 360. Im really pissed they didnt put it into there so called elite system. MS couldve really helped HD DVD with the elite but didnt. O well atleast i still have my add onXbox Live : AXIOS x117x
Playing: Halo 4
04-21-2007 10:04 PM #34
The "blu-ray would be dead if it wasn't for the PS3" argument is the most pointless of all.
HD DVD would be dead if all blu-ray players cost $5. HD DVD would be dead if all studios went blu-ray exclusive. HD DVD would be dead if it's discs exploded on contact with the Earth's atmosphere.
All the above statements are equally pointless. We can't change the parameters of the battle to give victory to one side.
04-21-2007 11:30 PM #35
I'm sure that makes all of them extremely happy. I guess that's why Disney cancelled their big titles on 6/5, "Con Air", "The Rock" & "Crimson Tide" & "Cars". I guess that's why there's no news on "Armageddon" they said would be released at CES.
I guess that's why Fox is M.I.A.
Well if all else goes wrong at least Sony will supply movies for their format.
04-22-2007 02:51 AM #36Member
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Wow what a blue vortex of spin in this thread!
I find it utterly shocking, that any BD fan could consider numbers like in the OP good news.
There are so many more Bluray players out there than HD DVD. Something like 2 million vs 300,000. I find it hilarious that anyone can think it's a GOOD THING that bluray is only able to maintain sales ratio of 2:1 over HD DVD. With penetration numbers like that, it should me much much higher. In fact, with marketing goggles on, that's abysmal.
The fact that the ratio isn't consistently many times higher, is not good news for BD.
I keep hearing the departed brought up, because it sold more on Bluray. This is true, more copies were sold on bluray. But if you factor in the established user bases of each format, HD DVD sold somewhere around 4x as many per user, comparatively. Go ahead and try and spin that any way you want, but studio marketing departments care very much about such things.
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04-22-2007 04:03 AM #37
bd will continue to grow. and so will its lead over hd-ded. right now its selling 2:1 but with the release of potc itll be more like 3:1
04-22-2007 06:41 AM #38
As you bring it up, Universal is losing 60% of revenue by not releasing on Blu ray. 60% is bigger than 40%.
nd You're saying Disney and Fox have cancelled titles because they would get 30%-40% revenue by releasing on both formats. Of course, by cancelling, they are losing 100% of revenue so that makes precisely no sense.
I've not heard you mention the cancelling of Con Air, the Rock and Crimson Tide before, so this information was a welcome breath of fresh air in your post.
04-22-2007 06:42 AM #39
Where are the big titles after POTC? The big titles aren't being announced after that for either format.
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04-22-2007 07:09 AM #42
I'm not sure it's safe to say they moved them to the 4th quarter since there is no information proving that fact.
If you have info providing that information it would be greatly appreciated.
04-22-2007 07:13 AM #43
Looking at the big picture there is more money being lost on Blu-ray studios not going neutral than Universal going neutral.
I'm not sure they're happy with losing 40% by not going neutral when we're talking about 1% of the whole home studio market.
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04-22-2007 07:36 AM #45
I would guess that there will be bigger titles out in Q4 2007 for both formats. Until we see official announcements, it's pointless speculating exactly what the titles will be.
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