Thread: Blu-ray and ps3 owners
11-20-2006 05:56 PM #46Founding Member
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For all you people worried about $70 HDMI Cables, I suggest you go over to monoprice.com. I got my HDMI Cable 6ft for only 6 dollars!!! Its the same quality HDMI Cable as the excuse me. (Monster Expensive Crap cables)
Also the DVD upscaling problem, is not a problem for me. I'll just support Blu-Ray and buy my favorites movies over again. (And none of them are from Universal) Also Sony said, that if there is enough demand, they will put dvd upscaling in a future software upgrade.
11-20-2006 06:20 PM #47
Q:So you're saying the PlayStation 3 will upscale DVDs to 1080p?
Sony VP:Yes. Oh, yes.
Sony VP: That's part and parcel of the Blu-ray technology. I thought you were questioning about the PlayStation game aspect.
11-20-2006 08:46 PM #48
I think there was no logic problem when I said that the disc-drive is not what makes HD-DVD or BD players expensive. It seems quite congruent to me. Drives are cheap and decoders are expensive (esp 1080p decoding). That is not contradictory.
HD-DVD & BD are just enhanced versions of DVD technology. Pretty much the only change on the drives is in the laser unit.
Let me simplify the logic.
$299 Xbox + $199 add-on disc-drive = a near full featured HD-DVD player. That is about the same price as a stand alone player. Is it then reasonable to state that the disc-drive is not the most expensive part of a player?
Further is it then unreasonable that this $199 drive actually costs much less to manufacture? You have to figure in Microsoft's profit, the drive maker's profit, the retailer's profit, warranty reservation, plus packaging and shipping costs. If the raw hardware costs even $100 I'll eat yellow snow.
My argument is that the BD drive in the PS3 is going to cost Sony significantly less than $199. They don't need to count profits, packaging, retailer profit, shipping and everything on that drive because it is just another part of the console.
Also the console needed some form of drive anyway, could have been DVD or HD-DVD or something proprietary. Going BD doesn't add hundreds to Sony's cost and it doesn't add hundreds to your PS3 purchase. On the contrary it adds intrinsic value to Sony and it is a good value way to get a BD drive for consumers.
Xbox 360 Premium = $399. PS3 20GB = $499. For $100 you get the BD drive, HDMI port, Blu tooth, and the Cell plus quite a few popular game franchises. Are they not easily worth that?
For another $100 you get 40GB extra storage, WiFi and card readers. That also seems good when just the WiFi adaptor for 360 costs $99 by itself.
Also being a geek programmer myself I'm pretty excited of running whatever I want on the free PS3 Linux OS.
Last edited by HarakoMeshi; 11-20-2006 at 09:24 PM.got Blu?
11-20-2006 10:30 PM #49
On the retail note, if you actually start comparing features and prices, the end results come out pretty close with an advantage to PS3. Mainly because it was constructed this year so same parts last year would have cost more. The price differences you pointed out get eroded away when you take into account the remote, cables aren't included with the PS3 and are with the XB.
11-20-2006 11:34 PM #50
If you don't have a 360 already then the minimum prices are fairly similar for both to enter into HD games & HD movies.
Finally in terms of value for games, movies and overall I think PS3 wins. Some people use "choice" and "options" as ways to convince themselves that they made the right call buying a 360 and that's fine too.got Blu?
11-21-2006 04:22 AM #51
From looking at other forums there are plenty of people who got a PS3 and they are very happy with the console as a whole, and saying the BD playback is excellent and better than standalone players.
Last edited by HarakoMeshi; 11-21-2006 at 04:24 AM.got Blu?
11-21-2006 07:21 AM #52Member
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11-21-2006 11:43 AM #53Originally Posted by J