More info about the Fox (and other) Delays

[Philnerd]

The original article specifically says that Fox is not having production issues and even quotes the Fox guy as confirming that. They're not releasing because of the BD hack, clear and simple. This was already confirmed by the Sony insider on avsforum. What in the world is Bill Hunt writing these days?

[divian]

The original article specifically says that Fox is not having production issues and even quotes the Fox guy as confirming that. They're not releasing because of the BD hack, clear and simple. This was already confirmed by the Sony insider on avsforum. What in the world is Bill Hunt writing these days?

That is exactly my thought.
The guy is trying to put all the HD DVD issues with the last two weeks releases in the same package with FOX. What a mess!!!!

[hdmoviefan101]

The original article specifically says that Fox is not having production issues and even quotes the Fox guy as confirming that. They're not releasing because of the BD hack, clear and simple. This was already confirmed by the Sony insider on avsforum. What in the world is Bill Hunt writing these days?

If it's completely a hack concern, why is a top title like "Night at the Museum" still coming out?

To delay "Dude, Where’s My Car" out of piracy concerns, but not "Night At The Museum" seems, well, strange logic by Fox, with no insight from the original source article.

[rmslives]

If it's completely a hack concern, why is a top title like "Night at the Museum" still coming out?

To delay "Dude, Where’s My Car" out of piracy concerns, but not "Night At The Museum" seems, well, strange logic by Fox, with no insight from the original source article.

They're not delaying "Dude, Where's My Car" because of piracy concerns . . . they're delaying it because they realize it's horrible and they're hoping people forget about it!

Seriously - is everyone trying to LOSE this war? HD DVD takes three months off . . . Universal bungles two consecutive day and date titles, and Fox is alienating itself from its customer base.

It hurts to think I hopped into the fray so early . . .

[divian]

What happens is that studios are not very compromised with their respective formats. Some people think that they can not move from one format to another. They will. Surprises are on the way.

[Diesmos]

They're not delaying "Dude, Where's My Car" because of piracy concerns . . . they're delaying it because they realize it's horrible and they're hoping people forget about it!

Seriously - is everyone trying to LOSE this war? HD DVD takes three months off . . . Universal bungles two consecutive day and date titles, and Fox is alienating itself from its customer base.

It hurts to think I hopped into the fray so early . . .

Are you kidding me? Both sides have been doing this since day one...on the HD side with titles like Grand Prix and Excalibur. On the BR side terrible animated efforts like Dinosaur and Into the Wild from Disney. And from the neutrals...Rumor Has It. Don't get me wrong, I like looking at Jennifer Anniston in high def as much as the next guy...but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

That's why this arguing is so amusing...it's like some people haven't clued into the fact that most of the titles from both sides suck...one currently has just released fifteen or so more titles than the other...

(yawn...)

[rmslives]

Are you kidding me?

Yes; yes, I was kidding you. Hence my "Seriously" comment.

Man, if I have to explain it . . . it's just no fun!

[Diesmos]

Yes; yes, I was kidding you. Hence my "Seriously" comment.

Man, if I have to explain it . . . it's just no fun!

keke...

[dolphinius_rex]

Seriously - is everyone trying to LOSE this war? HD DVD takes three months off . . . Universal bungles two consecutive day and date titles, and Fox is alienating itself from its customer base.

It hurts to think I hopped into the fray so early . . .

You know I wonder the same thing myself sometimes

And don't forget the horrible start Blu-Ray had with their transfer quality... I feel sorry for everyone who owns Fifth Element on Blu-Ray, and that includes myself.

(I may support Blu-Ray, but that doesn't mean I don't care about the mistakes made on their end!!)

[Fozziwig]

You were not aware of it because you are not one of thousands of retail managers. What they are talking about is shipments to stores being delayed. Depending on locations and retailers, it varies.

Ah, right. So, it was a shortage of stock. Combine that with the X360 problems and not quite a great title launch. Somebody should have mentioned to Universal a few weeks earlier that they were going to launch CoM so they could have been better prepared.

[Philnerd]

If it's completely a hack concern, why is a top title like "Night at the Museum" still coming out?

To delay "Dude, Where’s My Car" out of piracy concerns, but not "Night At The Museum" seems, well, strange logic by Fox, with no insight from the original source article.

Maybe you should ask Fox. All I know is the Fox person himself stated explicitly that they did NOT have a production problem. And an employee from Sony said that the hack was the reason for all the mystery cancellations. I suppose with Eragon and Night at the Museum Fox wants to capitalize on the advertising money they're spending on the movies since they're brand new to home video. Holding off on Eragon or Museum for a couple of months could reduce those titles' sales dramatically as a lot of BD owners would simply buy the DVD version and not double dip again when they get a surprise release in 4 months. That'd be my guess. Release the new stuff to maximize advert investments and first 1-2 week sales, hold back on the steady selling and proven catalog titles as they can be released any time. If I was a Fox exec and actually believed that BD+ was going to work 100%, that's how I'd approach it.

[Monty HD]

This info from Bill Hunt is more confusing than a post from a fanboy.
Children of Men DVD/HD-DVD Combo disc, Warner's Happy Feet Blu-ray Disc ??
What the heck is he talking about?

Anyway this thread should ge close and should be merge with mine:
Where is old good fox?

By the way...The week is almost over and Fox....where is Fox?????

Read further and edit.

[ack_bak]

Maybe you should ask Fox. All I know is the Fox person himself stated explicitly that they did NOT have a production problem. And an employee from Sony said that the hack was the reason for all the mystery cancellations. I suppose with Eragon and Night at the Museum Fox wants to capitalize on the advertising money they're spending on the movies since they're brand new to home video. Holding off on Eragon or Museum for a couple of months could reduce those titles' sales dramatically as a lot of BD owners would simply buy the DVD version and not double dip again when they get a surprise release in 4 months. That'd be my guess. Release the new stuff to maximize advert investments and first 1-2 week sales, hold back on the steady selling and proven catalog titles as they can be released any time. If I was a Fox exec and actually believed that BD+ was going to work 100%, that's how I'd approach it.

I think you are on to something here. Everyone knows that Fox was insistent on BD+ since the beginning. I just wish Fox would give us some more information behind the last minute cancellations...