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    Quote Originally Posted by HD-DED View Post
    This graph is the whole point of the state of HD DED. You see, as much as Clan Toshiba loves to point to Amazon, which has shown well for the format, it still boils down to way to few pieces of hardware out there so all new titles have a fall off that is rather sudden.

    People pre-order, but then nobody is left after the movie goes on sale.

    So, at the end of the day (week/month/year) you still end up with HD DVD sitting miserably behind Blu-ray on sales. In a few weeks, with Happy Feet out you will see the same sort of graph for that title. It's a nifty thing that we can focus on a single title like that because it clearly highlights just how far behind HD DVD truly is.

    Dead? I think those were the typings of the original poster, not something that anyone else in this thread has said. But, if you think HD DVD is dead, go for it.
    Anyway you need graphs, I see what I see they are both selling, but I would say HD-DVD is selling way better here in BC
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    Let's see how Happy Feet does....

    Different demo
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbawlz View Post
    Anyway you need graphs, I see what I see they are both selling, but I would say HD-DVD is selling way better here in BC
    You or Nielsen Videoscan... Gee, I wonder which is the more reputable source? How to choose, how to choose.

    I will forward your valued analysis of HD disc buying trends onto Universal, Fox, Sony, and Buena Vista so that they can seriously consider your expertise as well. I'm sure they will throw out the Videoscan numbers in a second when your numbers come across their desks.

    Seriously, a graph that gives an example of what is going on with HD DVD on one site... That's all it is. But as an indicator, Amazon is often pretty good. So, it isn't proof of what WILL happen with Happy Feet, but it is an indicator of what has happened with another recent movie and could happen again.

    I'm of the belief that it will happen again and we will have a new graph that looks very similar to The Departed for Happy Feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalim1998 View Post
    Actually, the rapid drop-off simply shows there is not that much content out for older HD-DVD buyers and they tend to concentrate buying on certain titles.
    i agree here with kalim, but also the poster who said that hd dvd's fan boys are buying via amazon to keep up rankings.

    anyhow you cut it, overall format sales are what matters. with BR taking a 4:1 lead in sales and likely to grow more over the next months, it's going to be an interesting thing to watch.

    the only thing that is throwing a real wrench into BR putting away HD DVD is that Warners is so fierce about releasing HD DVD product before comparable Blu-Ray. not day and date release.

    The Matrix is obviously going to be a rally point for HD DVD fans and will skew sales that month to less disadvantage that format.

    but... just wish this war would get put away some more.
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    I think Warner wants to help even the playing field a bit to make sure both formats survive. If one format dies then they wasted a lot of money on their Total HD discs.
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    Planet Earth HD DVD just past Happy Feet BD.

    That gives HD DVD 4 out of the top 5 spots!!!

    Not bad for a dead format, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tranzparentl View Post
    I think Warner wants to help even the playing field a bit to make sure both formats survive. If one format dies then they wasted a lot of money on their Total HD discs.
    Not really.... it was a Warner Brothers innovation, but Cinram is the one implimenting it.
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    Clearly we see with the recent success of HF, The Matrix Trilogy Ultimate pre-orders and CoM that HD DVD people want "fresh" content or classics and they will buy when offered a choice.

    Not a surprise when you consider that Amazon data shows the standalone Toshiba players are selling well. April 1st drops the price and makes HD DVD more affordable to even more people.

    By June we'll have the first players coming from China/Taiwan using the MS/Broadcom Reference design. My guess is they'll be $299 and flood your Walmarts, Targets and other stores.

    The BDA knew they had to attempt to knockout HD DVD before they reached traction but their admittal that they won't have parity in player specification (Persistent storage, ethernet, full interactivity support) until Oct 2007 does NOT bode well.

    The PS3 launch in Eur and Aus hasn't exactly lit the world on fire. HD DVD is looking pretty damn good right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tranzparentl View Post
    Planet Earth HD DVD just past Happy Feet BD.

    That gives HD DVD 4 out of the top 5 spots!!!

    Not bad for a dead format, eh?
    So far it's only you and some other HD-DVD fanboys who say that HD-DVD is dead.
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    I like to call this the "Starvation Effect." It's like the PS3 Effect in that it is responsible for a big jump in sales. Imagine a homeless man who hasn't eaten in days and goes into a shelter on Christmas where he sees this beautiful feast. He's just so hungry that he eats EVERYTHING, even stuff he might not eat otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post
    By June we'll have the first players coming from China/Taiwan using the MS/Broadcom Reference design. My guess is they'll be $299 and flood your Walmarts, Targets and other stores.

    The BDA knew they had to attempt to knockout HD DVD before they reached traction but their admittal that they won't have parity in player specification (Persistent storage, ethernet, full interactivity support) until Oct 2007 does NOT bode well.

    The PS3 launch in Eur and Aus hasn't exactly lit the world on fire. HD DVD is looking pretty damn good right now.
    Where is a link that says these cheap HD DVD players will be here in June? I am glad to see that HD DVD is picking up in sales, but you have to admit, they have been getting crushed by Blu-Ray thourghout 2007. They need sales to pickup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlins View Post
    So far it's only you and some other HD-DVD fanboys who say that HD-DVD is dead.
    Don't make me go through this forum to find all many many topics about it all being over for HD DVD by the BD fanbois.

    Oh, plus there was Sony's and Fox's press releases saying the war is over.
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    Given the current sales of HD DVD disks in 2007, the only way it could go was up
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    Quote Originally Posted by tranzparentl View Post
    Don't make me go through this forum to find all many many topics about it all being over for HD DVD by the BD fanbois.

    Oh, plus there was Sony's and Fox's press releases saying the war is over.

    No need to search, I'll say it for you. HD DVD is dead Although the reason I say it's dead won't be seen until 6-8 months from now, so it may not count. I have a habit of making declarations based on stuff that hasn't officially happend yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tranzparentl View Post
    Don't make me go through this forum to find all many many topics about it all being over for HD DVD by the BD fanbois.

    Oh, plus there was Sony's and Fox's press releases saying the war is over.
    The press release was from Fox and not Sony. As I have said before, (before Fox postponed Mr. and Mrs Smith) I don't give much credit to Fox. I haven't seen any Blu-ray fanbois saying that HD-DVD is dead. Dying, crushed, not doing well, not selling good yes but not dead as in dead now.
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