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    Default Shiver me Timbers!


    BluRay presale of Pirates of the Caribean 1 and 2 are ranked at 733 and 670.

    Now I am sure this will change but for now The Matrix Triliogy selling at 3 times the amount of either of these movies is at 41st place with the same release date.

    I am posting this because many have been smacking which will have a bigger May. This is a good thread for it.

    http://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribb...4860151&sr=8-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Caribb...4860151&sr=8-2
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    Why is this thread here and not in the Sales Rank sub-forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
    Why is this thread here and not in the Sales Rank sub-forum?

    Why is pirates ranked so low? I think it has a valid reason for being here.
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    I think POTC had a similar peak directly after its preorder-release and is now on a lower level until the real release date comes nearer. The sales rank for The Matrix will go down after some days too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty HD View Post
    Why is pirates ranked so low? I think it has a valid reason for being here.
    Considering PotC has been available for preorder from Amazon for about 6 weeks and this is first full day for The Matrix, its not that hard to figure out why. PotC had a similar spike when they were first available for preorder.
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    There's an awful lot of pre-orders going up for a $83.95, 3-movie set not released for 2 months. It's moved from a ranking of 3,500 to #38 in less than a day!!

    How much does it cost to place a pre-order BTW? I suppose they're quite hard to cancel as well.

    I'm not saying it actually is suspect. I'm just saying it looks suspect. Happy Feet (HD DVD) is out in a few days - box office hit, brand new day/date release and ranked 20 places below The Matrix set.

    If all those Matrix pre-orders get paid for then I will be impressed. It will be interesting to watch the chart and stock levels post-release.

    This is where HD DVD fans are right when they point out that Amazon charts are a bit flaky. I wish they would just record actual unit sales - same as DVD Empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syster01 View Post
    Considering PotC has been available for preorder from Amazon for about 6 weeks and this is first full day for The Matrix, its not that hard to figure out why. PotC had a similar spike when they were first available for preorder.
    Yes, you're right. Probably normal behaviour. POTC dropped back pretty fast within a few days so Matrix will probably do the same thing.
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    Again, PotC has been on preorder for 6 weeks. The hardcore users are always quick to place preorders. Here is a PotC graph to prove my point:



    What you perceived/wished and whats reality sucks for you HD DVD fan boys doesn't it?
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    I never remembered the POTC movies going below 100 since announcement heck i don't think they went below 200 , but i could be wrong on that and i am talking about Blu-ray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samlives View Post
    I never remembered the POTC movies going below 100 since announcement heck i don't think they went below 200 , but i could be wrong on that and i am talking about Blu-ray
    The graph clearly says you are wrong. Besides, its useless to compare the two because PotC was available 6 weeks earlier than The Matrix ...both have the same release date. This does affect the pre-order numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozziwig View Post
    There's an awful lot of pre-orders going up for a $83.95, 3-movie set not released for 2 months. It's moved from a ranking of 3,500 to #38 in less than a day!!

    How much does it cost to place a pre-order BTW? I suppose they're quite hard to cancel as well.

    I'm not saying it actually is suspect. I'm just saying it looks suspect. Happy Feet (HD DVD) is out in a few days - box office hit, brand new day/date release and ranked 20 places below The Matrix set.

    If all those Matrix pre-orders get paid for then I will be impressed. It will be interesting to watch the chart and stock levels post-release.

    This is where HD DVD fans are right when they point out that Amazon charts are a bit flaky. I wish they would just record actual unit sales - same as DVD Empire.
    I believe it cost nothing for a pre-order until the day its release - it also doesn't cost any thing to cancel. I assume while an product is pre-order status - one could cancel it and re-add - I would think after a while Amazon might get upset. One thing Amazon lets you do is combine orders, I did that with some of mind - that just allows them to be all ship at once - I did that with 3 Blu-rays I recieved last week.

    I never got a good explaination from any body on pre-orders - I think in reality we can't trust pre-orders until the movie is actually release. I think we saw this with departed. Departed look like HD DVD was going the hit during the pre-orders - but after it was release it was Blu-ray.

    I think also the fan base is different between Blu-ray and HD DVD, you can tell that with Casino Royale, it appears that more people purchase it after the release. But it was a Blu-ray exclusive release which was the big difference.

    Matrix is not a HD DVD exclusive, maybe Matrix will be out on HD DVD first - but its still not exclusive - Blu-ray will come a long and since its older movie, I believe that most people planning to get it as High Definition Movie, will wait for the Blu-ray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hstewarth View Post
    I believe that most people planning to get it as High Definition Movie, will wait for the Blu-ray.
    I think this is just wishful thinking. Most dual adopters are going to get the version that comes out first so that they can enjoy the movies in HD ASAP. I predict that most people that have both HD DVD and Blu-ray will buy the HD DVD version of the Matrix Trilogy (if they even buy it at all).
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