What Happy Feet could mean for HD DVD/Blu-ray

[Samlives]

I was looking at Happy Feet on HD DVD /Blu-ray results on dvd war and realized that Blu-ray was at 100 on Blu-ray Side and Hd dvd was at 61 and most people would say that didn't mean anything and I agree it doesn't mean anything. Well that is not what i am really gonna talk about , but more so what it could mean if Happy Feet out sells Blu-ray version on HD DVD and now this is VICE VERSA it works both ways.

You guys have been talking about Major Movies Departed , Casino royale etc . Those are great movies , i love them and all but what one thing you guys haven't even counted on is Children movies who happen to be Disney's Main AUDIENCE.

That is right Children Movies Dominate over our Films

And Happy Feet is a Big Childrens movie heck it was the movie to Deny Casino Royale Number 1.

If HAPPY FEET HD DVD out sells Blu-ray by any margin Disney will take notice to something very important HD DVD MAY BE MORE FAMILY ORIENTED AND THAT BLU-RAY is more Tech heavy and more for the Adult.

If that happens Disney is gonna have to rethink their stance because they are for the CHILDREN FIRST and the ADULT SECOND and it will always be that way.

And if HD DVD has a larger Children network and when i say children i am talking about 1 to 10 years old age group and while they don't buy the items , they are parents number 1 source of purchases

[goshikisen]

If HAPPY FEET HD DVD out sells Blu-ray by any margin Disney will take notice to something very important HD DVD MAY BE MORE FAMILY ORIENTED AND THAT BLU-RAY is more Tech heavy and more for the Adult.

I thought the Matrix thread was pushing the idea that HD DVD is more tech heavy with HDi and whatnot. Now it's not tech-heavy?

HD DVD - the Chameleon Format.

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by Samlives:
That is right Children Movies Dominate over our Films

I predict that neither version of Happy Feet will make the Amazon Top 10, which is what Casino Royale did for a while.

[enigma]

If HAPPY FEET HD DVD out sells Blu-ray by any margin Disney will take notice to something very important HD DVD MAY BE MORE FAMILY ORIENTED AND THAT BLU-RAY is more Tech heavy and more for the Adult.

Don't get your hopes up. Remeber gems like this right before the departed sales numbers came out

Kind of interesting that HD DVD took the #1 position again at the moment, edging out the BD version of "The Departed" with the HD DVD version, and actually even beating "Casino Royale" - Actually, I thought "Casino Royale" would have more staying power than that, it is being beaten by both versions of "The Departed" despite those two being up in the ranks even earlier than "Casino Royale". Oh well.

or this one

The Departed is just the first of many ass whooping's you can expect on same title day and date releases. But more importantly, we will buy Universal titles by the droves so you may as well kiss that whole "just wait and see" argument goodbye.

All indications are the online stores bias towards HD DVD during the early pre-order part of the cycle.

[Samlives]

Enigma you can't compare Departed to Happ Feet , Happy Feet can and will move further down the list on Amazon upon release date wether it be Blu-ray or HD DVD it is gonna go all the way down i mean.

HD DVD is Tech heavy , but what ever HD DVD Numbers vs Blu-ay numbers will determine where the Children Audience are in this HD DVD vs Blu-ray.

If HAPPY FEET ON HD DVD happens to outsell Blu-ray this will strike a CORD with Disney since that is their main AUDIENCE, It doesn't matter what departed , matrix ,Casino royale , Batman begins , superman returns or 300 do, it only matters what Children movies do for them since that is their main audience. Of course this is VICE VERSA , but my point is disney will def look at Happy Feet will pay more to it before it look at Casino Royale numbers.

[enigma]

Enigma you can't compare Departed to Happ Feet , Happy Feet can and will move further down the list on Amazon upon release date wether it be Blu-ray or HD DVD it is gonna go all the way down i mean.

HD DVD is Tech heavy , but what ever HD DVD Numbers vs Blu-ay numbers will determine where the Children Audience are in this HD DVD vs Blu-ray.

If HAPPY FEET ON HD DVD happens to outsell Blu-ray this will strike a CORD with Disney since that is their main AUDIENCE, It doesn't matter what departed , matrix ,Casino royale , Batman begins , superman returns or 300 do, it only matters what Children movies do for them since that is their main audience. Of course this is VICE VERSA , but my point is disney will def look at Happy Feet will pay more to it before it look at Casino Royale numbers.

Sure, Disney look at many numbers. They even put some of them in their own adds.

What I was pointing out was at this point in the pre-sales of The Departed all the HD DVD fans were gloating about their sales and how they were outselling BD. Then lookout, we get real sales data and HD DVD was in fact outsold by 50%. The amazon numbers predicted it as even. Whoops.

So I will happily bookmark your prediction for April when we have sales data.

[AV_Integrated]

...If HAPPY FEET HD DVD out sells Blu-ray by any margin...

While I"m not sure any single movie will do this, I think your initial premise if completely off base. You see, Happy Feet - and about every other Blu-ray/HD DVD released movie is not going to outsell on HD DVD. It may lead for a week or two - hold a higher ranking, but then, the more popular titles, will drop (rather quickly I'm afraid) down the HD DVD charts on Amazon, and reamain fairly steady on Blu-ray. You see, Blu-ray has the buying base. They aren't totally over the top on the first day for a new title, but the titles that are released, that are good, tend to have staying power.

The perfect example of this was The Departed. People put bets out that this movie would outrank Blu-ray on the HD DVD version. For the first couple of weeks, the people were right.

But go here, and take a look at what has gone on over the last 45 days:
http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/history.aspx
You have to set up the custom graph yourself, but the evidence is quite clear. No, perhaps the same line can't be made for Happy Feet, but perhaps it will be the case.

At a time when HD DVD is starved for movies, people are jumping all over the popular titles as soon as they are released, but then that's it. They don't have a solid base to continue to sell that movie to. Just a couple of weeks or so, then it fades away to the background.

I would expect, but can't guarantee, the same to be true for Happy Feet.

[jdobrole]

This thread directly contradicts what HD supporters have been saying all along. They always claim that there movies are more serious and adult oriented films while Blu Ray is made for the masses. They love to mention Children of Men and the Good Shepperd as examples. The thing is Happy feet is not going to sell more on HD DVD according to HD DVD supporters. There excuse for being beaten so horribly head to head with the departed was the $4 price difference. Now this movie has the exact same price. Now if the blu ray version of happy feet dominates HD like it did with the departed I am sure they will revert back to this same excuse.

[Samlives]

I haven't made excuses but again it doesn't matter what DEPARTED or CASINO ROYALE or any of those movies do , it only matters to disney what HAPPY FEET Does , what MONSTER HOUSE does , what TMNT does , because the same audience that buys those buys DISNEY MOVIES.

DISNEY is a CHILDREN CORPORATION first and foremost , while it has adult features thru TOUCHSTONE , BUENA VISTA , MIRAMAX , DIMENSION , it DISNEY the company is first and foremost a CHILDREN COMPANY.

[goshikisen]

If anything you'd think BD would be the best format for the youth market with the PS3 connection. BD is an easier sell to kids and teenagers.

[HarakoMeshi]

I was looking at Happy Feet on HD DVD /Blu-ray results on dvd war and realized that Blu-ray was at 100 on Blu-ray Side and Hd dvd was at 61 and most people would say that didn't mean anything and I agree it doesn't mean anything. Well that is not what i am really gonna talk about , but more so what it could mean if Happy Feet out sells Blu-ray version on HD DVD and now this is VICE VERSA it works both ways.

You guys have been talking about Major Movies Departed , Casino royale etc . Those are great movies , i love them and all but what one thing you guys haven't even counted on is Children movies who happen to be Disney's Main AUDIENCE.

That is right Children Movies Dominate over our Films

And Happy Feet is a Big Childrens movie heck it was the movie to Deny Casino Royale Number 1.

If HAPPY FEET HD DVD out sells Blu-ray by any margin Disney will take notice to something very important HD DVD MAY BE MORE FAMILY ORIENTED AND THAT BLU-RAY is more Tech heavy and more for the Adult.

If that happens Disney is gonna have to rethink their stance because they are for the CHILDREN FIRST and the ADULT SECOND and it will always be that way.

And if HD DVD has a larger Children network and when i say children i am talking about 1 to 10 years old age group and while they don't buy the items , they are parents number 1 source of purchases

Honestly, me & my wife didn't like Happy Feet at the cinema and neither did a lot of our parent friends. I am not crazy about buying this film at all.

From point of view of Happy Feet I'm not sure why HD DVD adopters would be particularly more family oriented than Blu-ray given that IMO the vast majority of players on both sides are owned by gamers and the rest by movie buffs and early adopters.

Also why would family people be pre-ordering movies on Amazon anyway? Wouldn't they take a more casual approach to movie buying?

[45rpm]

Honestly, me & my wife didn't like Happy Feet at the cinema and neither did a lot of our parent friends. I am not crazy about buying this film at all.

The ending is not really a children's movie ending but a global warming propaganda. I did not wait long enough for the credits to see if Al Gore is a sponsor.

[Blu-News.com]

I thought it was good, not great. I just like it because my girlfriend liked it mostly. Nothing better than cuddling to a cute penguin movie.

[divian]

I predict that neither version of Happy Feet will make the Amazon Top 10, which is what Casino Royale did for a while.

for a while meaning..how many days???

[enigma]

for a while meaning..how many days???

I think it was roughly 1 week. I will bet the 1st week sales for Happy feet will totall around 30k between the two formats. The BD should outsell the HD version, though likely by less than 50%.