Nielsen VideoScan for week ended March 18

[Merlins]

Nielsen VideoScan for week ended March 18:
SI, Blu-ray:HD-DVD
100:84.07

YTD, Blu-ray:HD-DVD
100:44.44

This gives us an estimated weekly sales ratio of 100:23, about the same as last week.

Six days of Casino Royale sales are included. These numbers also include the second week of Amazon 50%-off sale.

SI-graph:


YTD-graph:


And here is the estimated weekly sales graph:


The source: Home Media Magazine March 25-April 1
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2

PS. As usually I will add this link and the numbers to the "Consolidated Sales Rank thread (moved from main smackdown forum)" thread. I have gathered some sales and data links on the first page on this thread which I intend to keep updated when new links with data are published.

[enigma]

Sweet, Howere this does lend more support to these numbers being a subset of the market and not extrapolated to include the whole marked. Sony's numbers for CR are close to that total alone so they must be missing some sales.

Hovever its probably representative statistically.

[zombieflanders]

Originally Posted by enigma

Sweet, Howere this does lend more support to these numbers being a subset of the market and not extrapolated to include the whole marked. Sony's numbers for CR are close to that total alone so they must be missing some sales.

According to Nielsen themselves, they do not track Wal-Mart and some other retailers, and Wal-mart alone accounts for up to 50% of the home video market.

Hovever its probably representative statistically.

Yes. By all accounts, their ratios track, even if the estimated numbers look wierd.

[HarakoMeshi]

Guys, take a look at the gem from Disney on page 5

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2

They've provided the unit sales from Nielsen for both formats since August '06.



Their total for January is very close to my spread. If I count the first 4+3/7 weeks on my spread I get 274k, just a little under 279k on that graph.

[ww1seman]

Originally Posted by zombieflanders

According to Nielsen themselves, they do not track Wal-Mart and some other retailers, and Wal-mart alone accounts for up to 50% of the home video market.
Yes. By all accounts, their ratios track, even if the estimated numbers look wierd.

Well you are nicely again trying to turn the numbers in a better light.
Only Wal-Mart is missing, not some other, stay with the truth pls.
And this is valid for BOTH formats!

PS: poor outcome for CR, really poor. Where are those 100.000 copies of CR?

[zombieflanders]

Originally Posted by ww1seman

Well you are nicely again trying to turn the numbers in a better light.

Better light than what? HD DVD sales fell in January? Proven by a neutral source. HD DVD outsold by more than 2:1 3 months running? Proven. HD DVD outsold by 4:1 two weeks running? Proven.

Only Wal-Mart is missing, not some other, stay with the truth pls.

Get a fucking clue. Yes, it's not just Wal-mart. Not only is there evidence from resellers (who have continually BSed in HD DVD's favor, no less), but even their website says 'mass merchants, audio/video and video specialty retailers, electronics outlets, grocery stores, drug stores, and some Internet sites". That's "some", not "all". But hey, you've been wrong so many times before, why not now?

And this is valid for BOTH formats!

Yes, unless that retailer only stocks one format. We know for a fact that isn't the case at the Wal-mart and smaller retailers.

PS: poor outcome for CR, really poor. Where are those 100.000 copies of CR?

I'll ask you again: show me a DVD in late 1997/early 1998 that sold as well. You were already proven wrong in the sales numbers for DVD. Talk your way out of this one.

[ww1seman]

Originally Posted by zombieflanders

Better light than what? HD DVD sales fell in January? Proven by a neutral source. HD DVD outsold by more than 2:1 3 months running? Proven. HD DVD outsold by 4:1 two weeks running? Proven.
Get a fucking clue. Yes, it's not just Wal-mart. Not only is there evidence from resellers (who have continually BSed in HD DVD's favor, no less), but even their website says 'mass merchants, audio/video and video specialty retailers, electronics outlets, grocery stores, drug stores, and some Internet sites". That's "some", not "all". But hey, you've been wrong so many times before, why not now?
Yes, unless that retailer only stocks one format. We know for a fact that isn't the case at the Wal-mart and smaller retailers.
I'll ask you again: show me a DVD in late 1997/early 1998 that sold as well. You were already proven wrong in the sales numbers for DVD. Talk your way out of this one.

First I would suggest you to calm down and have a beer or something, you really sound kinda desperate this time Zombie!

HD-DVD didn't release any important movie since january and still is able to catch up with 50 % of the BD camp releasing tons of big mivies since january, yes, thats really proven, your right. The last two weeks, only increased by CR which will soon be gone, look on Amazon.com, I said it will be down on #50 by the end of this week. Before spreading nonsens, you should read the Nielsen site what they cover:

Sell-through POS (consumer purchase) sales data are collected weekly from traditional channels of video distribution including mass merchants, audio/video and video specialty retailers, electronics outlets, grocery stores, drug stores, and some Internet sites. Nielsen VideoScan maintains this weekly POS data in one of the largest databases of VHS and DVD products in the country. Data is collected on more than 40,000 VHS items and 12,000 DVD items. Virtually every UPC code in sell-through release since 1993 can be found in our extensive database. Complete sales data in all retail channels are available as far back as January 1999 (however Wal*Mart data is included only through 7/28/01). Prior to January 1999, limited information is available in most channels going back to 1993.

So I'm sorry to interrupt your wet BD-fanboi dreams by showing you the truth.

I have been wrong only few times and thats human, but you didn't get the whole picture.

I hope you will get it soon, I said I can't show you a link but I assume that there will be a title back in 1998 sold 100k times because DVD sold over 5.5 million in its very first year.

And now please go and cry again!

PS: Btw. where are those 100k CR units? Hahahaha

[ack_bak]

Originally Posted by ww1seman

First I would suggest you to calm down and have a beer or something, you really sound kinda desperate this time Zombie!

HD-DVD didn't release any important movie since january and still is able to catch up with 50 % of the BD camp releasing tons of big mivies since january, yes, thats really proven, your right. The last two weeks, only increased by CR which will soon be gone, look on Amazon.com, I said it will be down on #50 by the end of this week. Before spreading nonsens, you should read the Nielsen site what they cover:



So I'm sorry to interrupt your wet BD-fanboi dreams by showing you the truth.

I have been wrong only few times and thats human, but you didn't get the whole picture.

I hope you will get it soon, I said I can't show you a link but I assume that there will be a title back in 1998 sold 100k times because DVD sold over 5.5 million in its very first year.

And now please go and cry again!

PS: Btw. where are those 100k CR units? Hahahaha

Classic.. Your beloved HD DVD format is getting it's butt kicked in March (and it is going to get worse before the month is over) and this is the best you can come up with? DVD is the better seller? Wow.. You are really getting desperate..

I am starting to wonder if you even own an HD player at all.. How is that DVD player working out for ya??

[ww1seman]

Originally Posted by ack_bak

Classic.. Your beloved HD DVD format is getting it's butt kicked in March (and it is going to get worse before the month is over) and this is the best you can come up with? DVD is the better seller? Wow.. You are really getting desperate..

I am starting to wonder if you even own an HD player at all.. How is that DVD player working out for ya??

This was not even a good try ack, I suggest you to go back and make your homework and come back to try harder next time, agree?
Hehehe, I don't see any sense in your post, sry!

I said it several times, envy is really a bad thing sometimes, don't ya think ack?

[ww1seman]

Btw. could any of you number crunching freaks calculate the total numbers resulting from these Nielsen percantages for the last week?
Thnks in advance for your help!

[HarakoMeshi]

Originally Posted by ww1seman

HD-DVD didn't release any important movie since january and still is able to catch up with 50 % of the BD camp releasing tons of big mivies since january, yes, thats really proven, your right.

That doesn't matter so much. HD DVD has already a large catallogue of movies. If there were new HD DVD adopters they have plenty of selection of movies to buy. The fact that HD DVD isn't managing to sell much, even as little as 5000 discs in one week (last week) means there is very little growth in the adoption of the format regardless of new releases.

[ww1seman]

Originally Posted by HarakoMeshi

That doesn't matter so much. HD DVD has already a large catallogue of movies. If there were new HD DVD adopters they have plenty of selection of movies to buy. The fact that HD DVD isn't managing to sell much, even as little as 5000 discs in one week (last week) means there is very little growth in the adoption of the format regardless of new releases.

lets wait when the new releases hit the shelfes, than lets talk again...

[dolphinius_rex]

I hate to agree with ww1seman, but I'm also curious where the 100,000 Casino Royale Blu-Rays are...

I may be a Blu-Ray supporter, but I am not afraid to look at the facts, and right now I'm not seeing those expected sales on that graph, and since I was one of the people repeating the news on this and other forums, I am a little concerned. I much prefer my shocking news to be 100% correct... it messes up my reputaton when I repeat false information.

Anyone know what's up with the numbers?

[HarakoMeshi]

Originally Posted by dolphinius_rex

I hate to agree with ww1seman, but I'm also curious where the 100,000 Casino Royale Blu-Rays are...

I may be a Blu-Ray supporter, but I am not afraid to look at the facts, and right now I'm not seeing those expected sales on that graph, and since I was one of the people repeating the news on this and other forums, I am a little concerned. I much prefer my shocking news to be 100% correct... it messes up my reputaton when I repeat false information.

Anyone know what's up with the numbers?

100k was was never official. I'm a little surprised too, but I'm starting to suspect that Amazon doesn't report to Nielsen.

[ack_bak]

Originally Posted by HarakoMeshi

100k was was never official. I'm a little surprised too, but I'm starting to suspect that Amazon doesn't report to Nielsen.

We know Wal-Mart doesn't, and none of the smaller stores will either. I really do not think that Amazon does either, but at this point who cares? Blu-Ray as a whole Blu-Ray captured about 80+% of all HD movie sales for the week. I have a feeling that Blu-Ray will have at least a 4:1 advantage for the month of March. It is possible that HD DVD sales will pickup in April and May but there are some huge releases from Blu-Ray coming up as well.