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    Exclamation Nielsen VideoScan for week ended March 11


    Here comes some news (but I guess some HD-DVD fanboys (or Sony haters) are going to say "We already know Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD! Bring us some news!" They don't want to listen to anything other than good news for HD-DVD but I guess they just have to wait...

    Nielsen VideoScan for week ended March 11:
    SI, Blu-ray:HD-DVD
    100:89.25

    YTD, Blu-ray:HD-DVD
    100:47.37

    This gives us an estimated weekly sales ratio of 100:23

    These numbers are the first numbers that include the week of the Amazon 50%-off sale. They do not include any sales of Casino Royale which was released March 13.

    I guessed before (in the old thread) that the numbers should be SI 100:87.3 and YTD 100:47.6 and it looks like no released titles really meant no disc sales or Nielsen VideoScan does not get the Amazon sales numbers from Amazon. I have seen one source (pcmag.com) that claim that Walmarts sales numbers are not included. Walmart didn't think it gave them any advantages to provide sales numbers to Nielsen VideoScan. Is it the same for Amazon?

    http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2

    PS. I will add this link and the numbers to the "Consolidated Sales Rank thread (moved from main smackdown forum)" thread also. I have gathered some other sales and data links on the first page on this thread which I intend to updated then new links with data are published.
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    The calculations from the AVS spreadsheet give me a 4.4:1 sales ratio. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombieflanders View Post
    The calculations from the AVS spreadsheet give me a 4.4:1 sales ratio. Wow.
    Yes but not so many sold discs... Don't think the Amazon sales numbers are shared to Nielsen VideoScan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlins View Post
    Here comes some news (but I guess some HD-DVD fanboys (or Sony haters) are going to say "We already know Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD! Bring us some news!" They don't want to listen to anything other than good news for HD-DVD but I guess they just have to wait...

    Nielsen VideoScan for week ended March 11:
    SI, Blu-ray:HD-DVD
    100:89.25

    YTD, Blu-ray:HD-DVD
    100:47.37

    This gives us an estimated weekly sales ratio of 100:23

    These numbers are the first numbers that include the week of the Amazon 50%-off sale. They do not include any sales of Casino Royale which was released March 13.

    I guessed before (in the old thread) that the numbers should be SI 100:87.3 and YTD 100:47.6 and it looks like no released titles really meant no disc sales or Nielsen VideoScan does not get the Amazon sales numbers from Amazon. I have seen one source (pcmag.com) that claim that Walmarts sales numbers are not included. Walmart didn't think it gave them any advantages to provide sales numbers to Nielsen VideoScan. Is it the same for Amazon?

    http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2

    PS. I will add this link and the numbers to the "Consolidated Sales Rank thread (moved from main smackdown forum)" thread also. I have gathered some other sales and data links on the first page on this thread which I intend to updated then new links with data are published.
    The SI figure is rather fishy. You have the YTD figure lower than what you predicted but yet the SI was higher than your prediction. It does not make any sense. You probably calculated wrong on your prediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syster01 View Post
    The SI figure is rather fishy. You have the YTD figure lower than what you predicted but yet the SI was higher than your prediction. It does not make any sense. You probably calculated wrong on your prediction.
    I calculated with an increased number of sold discs per week but the opposite happened. I thought the sale would boost the number of discs sold per week but either it did not or the Amazon sales figures are not given to Nielsen VideoScan, just like Walmarts.
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    Bring us some news!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by divian View Post
    Bring us some news!!!!
    Guess you will have to wait...
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    hmm, I calculate about 29,791 Blu-ray vs 6,759 HD DVD. Thats very low for both sides. Maybe the zero release week caused a real slump at B&M stores, but Amazon at least managed to keep Blu-ray up to a half decent total.

    Just think what this is going to look like next week. Blu-ray sales will be up thanks to Casino Royale, and HD DVD might just be heading closer to zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarakoMeshi View Post
    hmm, I calculate about 29,791 Blu-ray vs 6,759 HD DVD. Thats very low for both sides. Maybe the zero release week caused a real slump at B&M stores, but Amazon at least managed to keep Blu-ray up to a half decent total.
    Got about the same. Could we get some new graphs, please? Would like to see an update on the consolidated thread also. Thank you in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlins View Post
    Got about the same. Could we get some new graphs, please? Would like to see an update on the consolidated thread also. Thank you in advance.


    Done, and updated on the consolidated thread too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarakoMeshi View Post
    Done, and updated on the consolidated thread too.
    Thanks! One might need to hit the Reload-button to update the pictures.
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    Something sure doesn't seem right with the numbers.. I keep thinking Nielsen made a mistake.. 5-6K HD DVD titles? They probably sold that many standalones and add-ons and most people buy at least 1-2 titles.. Something is up... I thought the BR numbers would have been much higher. If this is correct, forget worrying about each other's formats. I am worried for HD....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ack_bak View Post
    Something sure doesn't seem right with the numbers.. I keep thinking Nielsen made a mistake.. 5-6K HD DVD titles? They probably sold that many standalones and add-ons and most people buy at least 1-2 titles.. Something is up... I thought the BR numbers would have been much higher. If this is correct, forget worrying about each other's formats. I am worried for HD....
    I was also expecting much higher sales numbers for both formats.

    I found this quote in an article:
    Quote Originally Posted by TVPredictions.com
    Reuters reports that 5.2 million Blu-ray discs have been sold worldwide, a far cry from the billions of standard DVDs that have been sold.
    http://www.tvpredictions.com/bludvd031507.htm

    I guess USA is the biggest market for Blu-ray but maybe Japan can contribute also. Don't know if Reuter also count blanc media and PS3 games then they claim 5.2 million sold Blu-ray discs but I think that number sounds high if you compare it to our data here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombieflanders View Post
    The calculations from the AVS spreadsheet give me a 4.4:1 sales ratio. Wow.
    it'll get worse probably the next week because of the Casino royale release...we could see sales ratios of 6:1 for Blu-ray or more....

    So, I guess Fox was right when they predicted at least a 3.5:1 ratio......
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    The numbers look very odd. If HD DVD really sold so little its very poor, almost like a lot of stores stopped selling HD DVD altogether. If those HD DVD SI ratios were just 1 or 1.5 points lower it would make a lot more sense.

    With SI as they are 100:89.25 I get sales of around 29,791 BD to 6,759 HD or 4.4:1.

    If the SI was 100:87.75 I get sales of around 64,229 BD to 23,072 HD or 2.8:1. That would be a lot more plausible.
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