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Old 01-24-2008, 04:27 PM
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Thumbs up Revisiting Toshiba Super Upconversion : It is really a super resolution 960p native

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Toshiba's "Super Upconversion" is really "super resolution", a technique used to create single high resolution image by fusing multiple low resolution images. In other word,

Nine 480p frames fused via computation = One true 960p frame.

No wonder Super Upconverted pics looked HD, because the output is true 960p native.

Now that we know Super Upconversion produces 960p native output, this is a viable HD video technology able to compete with Blu-Ray, and 90% of consumers wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 1080p native Blu-Ray and 960p native Super Upconverted DVD.
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:28 PM
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It's "good enough" I guess...



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Old 01-24-2008, 04:30 PM
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Oooooo, ooooo does it come with lossy audio too?!?!


Can't wait!!!
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Depends on the source. Not all sd dvd are created equal.
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Oooooo, ooooo does it come with lossy audio too?!?!
Can't wait!!!
Most people depend on a pair of cheap speakers attached to HDTV. Can't tell the difference between AC3 and Lossless PCM with those set up.
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Depends on the source. Not all sd dvd are created equal.
If Toshiba goes this path, then first thing they would do is ask the studios to boost DVD bitrate. In other word, the return of Superbit.
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:33 PM
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My friend says his built in speaker on his olevia 37" are great. 15watts must be good enough for him
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You are assuming all these 9 frames are identical, where in reality objects move around and the camera pans around.
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Most people depend on a pair of cheap speakers attached to HDTV. Can't tell the difference between AC3 and Lossless PCM with those set up.
don't you mean most people don't depend on hd-tv's and cant tell the difference between 1080p and 480p?
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How exactly is this better than true 1080p Blu-ray?
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How exactly is this better than true 1080p Blu-ray?
Most people can't tell the difference, hence no need for Blu-Ray.
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If Toshiba goes this path, then first thing they would do is ask the studios to boost DVD bitrate. In other word, the return of Superbit.
And why would studios (who are pushing true HD formats) want to do that exactly?

Super Up-Conversion seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:35 PM
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Have they announced a price point?


There's 2 things that concern me with this: How much it costs and when it's coming out. Two huge factors for success.
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ugh, the ban wasn't permanent.

still not impressed with "super upconversion", will have to see if it catches on. doubtful.
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If Toshiba goes this path, then first thing they would do is ask the studios to boost DVD bitrate. In other word, the return of Superbit.
Right, and all the studios that support BD would do this for Toshiba why?
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