Revisiting Toshiba Super Upconversion : It is really a super resolution 960p native

[Cap'n Neutrality]

Originally Posted by Wulf

Afterall, why waste money replacing movies when the US is this close to a recession?

And how did you get into a recession??

Oh, yeah....

You "bought" that there were WMDs in Iraq and you "bought" that Saddam was connected to 9/11....

It isn't too hard to imagine how you could be "bought" into this "super-upconversion" snake-oil, as well.

[The BJD]

Originally Posted by Cap'n Neutrality

And how did you get into a recession??

Oh, yeah....

You "bought" that there were WMDs in Iraq and you "bought" that Saddam was connected to 9/11....

It isn't too hard to imagine how you could be "bought" into this "super-upconversion" snake-oil, as well.

Who didn't think there were WMD's in Iraq? Revisionist history is my favorite subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnceSIxxOYg

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for. That is, at the end of the first Gulf War, we knew what he had. We knew what was destroyed in all the inspection processes and that was a lot. And then we bombed with the British for four days in 1998. We might have gotten it all; we might have gotten half of it; we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know. So I thought it was prudent for the president to go to the U.N. and for the U.N. to say you got to let these inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty could be regime change, not just continued sanctions."
--Bill Clinton, July 22, 2003

[Hi i'm God]

hahah @ actually believing there where wmd's in Iraq. No WONDER you thought HD DVD had a chance at winning this war.

[Cap'n Neutrality]

Originally Posted by The BJD

Who didn't think there were WMD's in Iraq? Revisionist history is my favorite subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnceSIxxOYg

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for. That is, at the end of the first Gulf War, we knew what he had. We knew what was destroyed in all the inspection processes and that was a lot. And then we bombed with the British for four days in 1998. We might have gotten it all; we might have gotten half of it; we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know. So I thought it was prudent for the president to go to the U.N. and for the U.N. to say you got to let these inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty could be regime change, not just continued sanctions."
--Bill Clinton, July 22, 2003

"But we didn't know"....

Y'know who else "didn't know"...???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq5mQLArjmo

"Now what is the message there? The message is that there are known "knowns." There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."

Classic.

[The BJD]

Originally Posted by Hi i'm God

hahah @ actually believing there where wmd's in Iraq. No WONDER you thought HD DVD had a chance at winning this war.

I was going by Bill Clinton's statements, though I should have recognized his lips were moving so he was probably being untruthful.

Back on topic, upconversion from Toshiba better involve an HD DVD drive.

[Hi i'm God]

Originally Posted by The BJD

I was going by Bill Clinton's statements, though I should have recognized his lips were moving so he was probably being untruthful.

haha @ Untruthful. Of course when you spin things it's always funny to those that know better.

[The BJD]

Originally Posted by Hi i'm God

haha @ Untruthful. Of course when you spin things it's always funny to those that know better.

The Clinton Kool-aid drinkers never admit anything. I get it "Bush lied" and Clinton didn't come out and support the decision to go to war with Iraq. It wasn't that long ago.

[steaky]

Studios wont like this, so its not going to get support from them. they want the double dips on Blu-rays.

[HiDefFanboy]

Originally Posted by nextoo

Hey if it makes DVD look better why not. Especially for those with large collections.

When Henry Ford rolled out the first Model A they didn't shoot all the horses did they?

Uhm, they... They Shot the horses?

So how are those VHS tapes you have? Still playing many movies on them?

[theHDphantom]

Originally Posted by HiDefFanboy

Uhm, they... They Shot the horses?

So how are those VHS tapes you have? Still playing many movies on them?

I still watch a lot of VHS today. I got a huge collection, so I might as well still use them. Heck, I'm still buying VHS movies from hock shops.

[HiDefFanboy]

Originally Posted by theHDphantom

I still watch a lot of VHS today. I got a huge collection, so I might as well still use them. Heck, I'm still buying VHS movies from hock shops.

...and you are saying this is normal?

Hey, man - ever hear about this new format called DVD?

(Note: By 'normal' I mean what the majority of people do - just so you don't take this as a personal attack

[bazie]

1) Doesn't have high def audio
2) Doesn't have internet interactivity
3) Doesn't have PiP or any of the other fancy menu/games/features/threading etc possibility on both formats. Remember these last two points are the much heralded advantages of HDDVD
4) Is likely to give weird artifacts and inconsistent results in fast motion/cuts and fades etc. Definitely won't be as good as the real thing
5) Even still, isn't is only 960p not 1080p....why opt for less when you can have more
6) Seems to require a large amount of processing power, hence why it hasn't been available for years, and thus i doubt the prices are going to be any cheaper then high def media.
7) Movie studios don't want this, they want products with all the bells and whistles and features that bluray/HDDVD can offer to they can justify the price

In summary, noone cares, it isn't as good, and noone wants it.

[hstewarth]

Isn't the native resolution of all DVD 480p - so 960p resolution is not actually true resolution - but scaled up resolution - so each pixel is actually two pixels

[Solo 88]

Originally Posted by SRFan

You are assuming all these 9 frames are identical, where in reality objects move around and the camera pans around.

excellent point this would cause bluring on fast or action sequences or pans for that matter.

[Deadmeat]

Originally Posted by hstewarth

Isn't the native resolution of all DVD 480p - so 960p resolution is not actually true resolution - but scaled up resolution - so each pixel is actually two pixels

It is 960p native because this 960p frame is the result of composition of 9 480p frames.


An example of super-resolution.

Above four images were combined to produce higher resolution Jupiter.