Toshiba: upconverting is nearly as good as HD DVD!

[B.Greenway]

Every upscaling DVD player on the market describes themselves as "converting images to near high-definition quality." This isn't some evil marketing tactic thought up by Toshiba.

No reason to let that stop someone from berating Toshiba over it though.

[zaphod]

In your dreams...

And what's hilarious about everything coming to pass now is...

BD supporters have been telling the truth for months, only to be called liars and snakeoil salesmen...

But what have we now?

The truth.

To Toshiba HD DVD is nothing but an attempt to hold on to SD DVD. MS's involvement is nothing but a market splintering attempt. They've both shown the true colors now.

The game is up. HD DVD supporters were had in believing that this was really about HDM, it wasn't.

It was about two corporations either trying to hold on to a cash cow and another one trying to splinter a market to develop alternative tech.

The truth shall set you free.

Well done. Now, please tell us who shot Kennedy.

[Crackbone]

No reason to let that stop someone from berating Toshiba over it though.

When you change the priority from HDM to upscaling, yeah, I'll jump all over them for that.

This is High Def Digest, not SD upscaled Digest. I am here for HDM and the fact that Toshiba is selling a BS line now that their backs are against the wall is ludicrous.,

[Crackbone]

Well done. Now, please tell us who shot Kennedy.

Easy, Lee Harvey Oswald. :P

[B.Greenway]

When you change the priority from HDM to upscaling, yeah, I'll jump all over them for that.

This is High Def Digest, not SD upscaled Digest. I am here for HDM and the fact that Toshiba is selling a BS line now that their backs are against the wall is ludicrous.,

Sorry, when did this occur? oh never. All these companies (Sony included) have touted up-conversion to be more than it is; its called marketing. Seriously guys some of you are as transparent as freshly Windex'ed glass.

[The Main Event]

You guys laugh at Toshiba's statement, but one of my friends was extremely happy that he could use his A3 to upconvert his current DVD collection without having to replace his entire library.

You need to realize that not everyone is hanging out on sites like HDD and AVS and/or are tech freaks. Hell, there are even people nowadays that can't differentiate full screen and widescreen movies.

So given the popularity of upconvert DVD players, the new price point and the ability to play HD DVD is a smart marketing shift, of course, all that because of the recent Warner decision.

[Office Ed]

Easy, Lee Harvey Oswald. :P

are you sure? that picture of him holding a gun look 'upscaled' to me.

[Pisto]

DVD screenshots were taken from a MPC using DScaler upscaled to 1920x1080 resized using Photoshop Bicubic filter saved as PNG

I don't know if it's possible, but it could be interesting to compare the bicubic filter to the S-Spline XL filter in PhotoZoom Pro 2 with your screenshots.

Example: Bicubic vs S-Spline XL

[Malanthius]

How much do you want to bet that Sony will counter Toshiba's advertising saying the exact same thing?

[DueNorth]

That is the only way they can sell their HD-DVD player. As a super duper SD upconverting player, heck... it cost cheaper then some of them.

This won't help them sell more HD-DVD media however... but who needs that?

[nexpos]

Toshiba is pathetic. Upconverting has been around for a while now, but they're trying to capitalize on the ignorance of customers not knowing this.

BDA needs to step it up now, it really won't take that much more to just kill HD DVD off. KILL IT OFF once and for all!

It's like a zombie in Return of The Living Dead - you have to aim for the brain!

[B.Greenway]

How much do you want to bet that Sony will counter Toshiba's advertising saying the exact same thing?

And how much do you want to bet that when they do none of these same sycophants will be here to berate them over it.

[Kez]

if they like upcomvert do much why bother with hdddvd

[Slayer]

Ack,

I normally agree with you, but honestly, this is Toshiba's grasping @ straws to hold on to their SD DVD market.

That's all this has been about from day one. Holding on to SD DVD royalties while throwing a product out there that pretends to be about HD, but in actuality is about preserving their SD DVD sales.

It isnt about looking "as good", its about looking good enough. Your missing the point.

[kamiller42]

upconverting has improved quite a bit since 3 years ago. Kudos for Toshiba for pulling out all the stops with it's back to the wall.

I am liking it.

Here we hear it again... what's good enough. Now it's "upconversion is good enough." "Downloads are good enough." "2 studios are good enough." HD DVD, where all compromises are good enough. If all those compromises are good enough, why not support Blu-ray? It's got to be at least "good enough."

Toshiba is out to serve themselves with no concern for the market. It's a dumb slash and burn strategy. Sad for them and the mind numb followers.