Same Old War: SONY vs the World

[HD Guru]

Except that its really Toshiba vs the world this time.

Yup, you hit the nail on the head.

Well, Toshiba and MS vs. the World.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...engthenPR.mspx

TOKYO — June 27, 2005 — Microsoft Corp. and Toshiba Corp. today announced a significant expansion of the companies’ global relationship to enhance the development and delivery of innovative digital consumer electronics products and personal computers by sharing each other’s respective hardware and software technologies. The expanded collaboration is designed to accelerate the availability of new devices for the benefit of customers, while demonstrating mutual respect for each company’s intellectual property rights.

“Microsoft values our strong relationship with Toshiba, a company we admire for its long-standing commitment to innovation,” said Bill Gates, chairman and chief software architect of Microsoft. “This agreement demonstrates our desire to share our innovations with other companies in ways that promote the spread of new ideas — and benefit customers by accelerating the development of exciting new products.”

The two companies have agreed to investigate development of HD DVD players using Microsoft® Windows® CE technology, by bringing together Microsoft’s expertise in software and PC technologies with Toshiba’s expertise in consumer electronics and computing. The companies also plan to strengthen their collaboration on iHD, the DVD Forum’s latest interactivity format.

As leaders in the PC industry, Microsoft and Toshiba promote joint ongoing projects in an effort to deliver breakthrough mobile PCs and expand the mobile market, showcasing integration of the key software features of the Windows operating system with the cutting-edge hardware technologies from Toshiba. The companies have been working closely to promote Windows XP-based Tablet PCs and Media Center PCs on a worldwide basis, offering customers new PC work styles and benefits. Microsoft and Toshiba also expect to develop and deliver compelling mobile PCs with the next version of the Windows operating system, code-named “Longhorn.”

In April 2005 the companies signed a cross-licensing agreement to promote the exchange of innovations developed by each company. The licensing agreement covers developments in computer and digital consumer electronics areas. Microsoft and Toshiba both have traditions of investing heavily in research and development, a fact reflected in the depth of their respective patent portfolios and diverse products.

[Hadoken]

Sorry about the your A2 purchase. It's not too late to return it.

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the bluray fanboyism chimes in to somehow put down anything related to HDDVD. Its like you all are just FOAMING at the mouth, waiting to spew out more garbage and hate-talk to anyone that choses red. So sad for you.

[HiDeFJunKie]

This time around it's more like "Toshiba vs. the World!"

Yet Toshiba is curretly kicking the BDA's ass as far as standalone sales go. Meanwhile, all the Blu manufacturers just leads to more confusion with respect to profiles:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/exclusive...ray-320077.php

[polyh3dron]

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the bluray fanboyism chimes in to somehow put down anything related to HDDVD. Its like you all are just FOAMING at the mouth, waiting to spew out more garbage and hate-talk to anyone that choses red. So sad for you.

And there is absolutely no rabid HD DVD fanboyism involved at all by calling yourself "blughey".

You've got a whole lot of windows in your house.

[HD Guru]

Yet Toshiba is curretly kicking the BDA's ass as far as standalone sales go. Meanwhile, all the Blu manufacturers just leads to more confusion with respect to profiles:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/exclusive...ray-320077.php

Yeah, which is a lot worse than confusion about formats.

[Kid Banana]

I owned 2 Beta VCRs. I still have one. It's made by Toshiba...


and it no longer works.

(For the record, I also own 2 Sony minidisc players and 4 cellphones that take memory stick pro duo media. In my view, minidisc was not a failed format.).

[Rob.D.inToronto]

Yet Toshiba is curretly kicking the BDA's ass as far as standalone sales go. Meanwhile, all the Blu manufacturers just leads to more confusion with respect to profiles:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/exclusive...ray-320077.php

"You will remember that we reported that the Duo will only get to the 1.1 profile with a free firmware update scheduled for late January. Ironically, because the Duo has an Ethernet port mandated by its HD DVD half, it will be able to get the update via network, without any fancy download-and-burn requirement."

classic

[marzetta7]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ay&btnG=Search


Actually your attempt to shut this thread down fails badly. Its been discussed dozens of times buddy.

And ends in the conclusion of a poor parallel...unless, that is you are blinded by your red-tint glasses.

True it has been covered countless times here as well, and it was just a poor parallel as it is now. Buddy.

[Hadoken]

And there is absolutely no rabid HD DVD fanboyism involved at all by calling yourself "blughey".

You've got a whole lot of windows in your house.

Both formats suck, as none is perfect. BD just sucks a little more because its Sony. The fact that you BD lovers support a company that has such a notorious reputation for anti-consumerism is baffling.

[HiDeFJunKie]

Yeah, which is a lot worse than confusion about formats.

In reality the BDA is nothing more than a house of cards. It can collapse at any moment. The only companies with a vested interest in it are Sony and Matsushita. The fact that over 90% of BD players being used are PS3s just goes to prove that Blu is ultimately Sony's format to win or more likely lose.

[polyh3dron]

Both formats suck, as none is perfect. BD just sucks a little more because its Sony. The fact that you BD lovers support a company that has such a notorious reputation for anti-consumerism is baffling.

Welcome to HD DVD Bizzaro Fanboy Land where Microsoft has absolutely no anti-consumer history and the HD DVD group didn't pay off Paramount to drop support for the better selling format to exclusively support the lesser selling one.

[Hadoken]

Sony vs M$??

Both are evil. For HDM, sony is more evil.

[theflux]

Yet Toshiba is curretly kicking the BDA's ass as far as standalone sales go. Meanwhile, all the Blu manufacturers just leads to more confusion with respect to profiles:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/exclusive...ray-320077.php

Oh hay its the Red Herring again! Never seen that one used before!

[redfirebird2008]

Welcome to HD DVD Bizzaro Fanboy Land where Microsoft has absolutely no anti-consumer history and the HD DVD group didn't pay off Paramount to drop support for the better selling format to exclusively support the lesser selling one.

Sony has more of a direct impact on this than Microsoft does. If Microsoft was manufacturing the players, and it somehow relied completely on Microsoft's operating system, I would never have bought HD DVD. Windows is loaded with DRM, and in some cases, there's DRM that not even Microsoft would stand for such as Sony's little rootkit scheme. Both of those companies have a bad history of screwing consumers, but as I said Sony is far more involved with Blu-ray's DRM than Microsoft is with HD DVD's. When it comes to fair use, I don't trust Sony at all. I think if Blu-ray wins, they will change the DRM on every single disc to the point that you need a new firmware update with each disc you buy, which is ridiculous.

Also, I'm pretty damn sure Disney and Fox aren't on Blu-ray's side out of the kindness of their hearts. It would be naive to think that there's not bribing going on from BOTH SIDES.

[HiDeFJunKie]

Welcome to HD DVD Bizzaro Fanboy Land where Microsoft has absolutely no anti-consumer history and the HD DVD group didn't pay off Paramount to drop support for the better selling format to exclusively support the lesser selling one.

Well, speaking of Payoffs, Disney is being very ambiguous when asked if they were offered sweeteners to remain Blu exclusive. In fact, as recent as late 2006, they still said they'd likely go neutral. What changed their mind$?