WB decides to let Blu-ray be held back... AGAIN!!

[marine92104]

WB-Italia:



WB-France (2008 upcoming releases confirmed by RAMA):



etc.

Dr.A

Are the Warner Brothers Blu-ray titles you listed in Italy & France region coded where they can play in USA players?

[Flex Mentallo]

Are the Warner Brothers Blu-ray titles you listed in Italy & France region coded where they can play in USA players?

I don't believe WB employs region coding on any of their next gen discs.

[Mike171979]

Whoa Whoa Whoa, if you want to blame Warner Bros. for the lack of a lossless track thats fine.

But don't blame HD DVD, because there would have been plenty of room for Dolby TrueHD, as proven by a countless amount of titles that have more special features and a longer running time, yet still has a TrueHD track.

[Pimboli]

The make the same encode and sell it on both. The only thing they change is the menu.

That's why they're making money.

That's why they're still neutral.

The fact is they could have added an extra track to Blu and chose not to.

They have different specs on the HP movies for each format, with the deleted scenes being HD and having different featurettes to HD DVDs IME and SD deleted scenes.

They dont just duplicate the HD DVD release for Blu Ray which Blu just assume they do on all titles. Didnt Blood Diamond get released a full month ahead of HD DVD on Blu Ray, yet HD DVD didnt get 'helf back' with IME being included

[Blu-Ray Fox]

So I guess the moral of the story for all the kiddies out there is that you should have been an HD DVD backer. Gee too bad that even when they do make cool new features for Blu Ray you won't be able to watch them because you were too early to the game. Sounds just like the BDA to screw their most loyal customers.

once again these extra features seem not to mean a thing

which version of 300 sold more??

oh thats right!

[jaydoy]

Be happy that they're still releasing on BluRay, for now.

Do you know something we don't know.......... didn't think so, just wishful thinking.

[oscar]

Whoa Whoa Whoa, if you want to blame Warner Bros. for the lack of a lossless track thats fine.

But don't blame HD DVD, because there would have been plenty of room for Dolby TrueHD, as proven by a countless amount of titles that have more special features and a longer running time, yet still has a TrueHD track.

Bandwidth limitations can cause the lossless audio to be left out. Old argument.

[nexpos]

Just remember "300" sales numbers. Doubt they'd start straying away and lose money during the holidays.

[ccphilly1984]

The fact is they could have added an extra track to Blu and chose not to.

They have different specs on the HP movies for each format, with the deleted scenes being HD and having different featurettes to HD DVDs IME and SD deleted scenes.

They dont just duplicate the HD DVD release for Blu Ray which Blu just assume they do on all titles. Didnt Blood Diamond get released a full month ahead of HD DVD on Blu Ray, yet HD DVD didnt get 'helf back' with IME being included

warner isn't a pity place... they like ime so they put it whenever they can... i hate it how blu fanboys cry because they paid more for their player and aren't getting a pcm track added special for them. if warner chose losles, they would choose dolby truehd. pcm is bullcrap and a waste of space when you get the same coming from truehd.

[ccphilly1984]

Importing?

yeah... that's what blu fanboys do because they are stubborn assholes... it's been out on hd dvd for a long time... i only import If it is still in theaters (mr bean) or no sign of release (mr and mrs smith i got this summer)... or if they are cheaper than the other format here (got the rambo movies 20 bucks each imported from austrailia)...

[crassp]

WB-Italia:

WB-France (2008 upcoming releases confirmed by RAMA):

Les futures sorties exclusives HD-DVD:

Batman, de Tim Burton
L'Exorciste
La Ligne verte
Heat
The Matrix and The Matrix Online Card Game
Wu Ji
Robin des bois, prince des voleurs
Les Evadés
Les Révoltés du Bounty (1935)
Speed Racer (2008)
Superman II
A la maison blanche – Saison 7

dvdrama.com/news-22013-warner-60-titres-haute-definition.php

[double l]

It does suck that just b/c HD DVD is an inferior technology, Blu-ray has to be held back. It's not the first time this has happened.

[HD Guru]

This has been WB's MO since 2006.

When no lossless track is included in either HD or BD version those titles receive a DD + track usually at 640 kbps. When lossless is included the HD DVD version gets Dolby TrueHD while the BD counterpart gets the TrueHD track or PCM track like the Kubrick films or both like The Departed.

If you really want to affect change on WB's BD policy then simply put your money where your mouth is and don't buy Warner's Blu Ray releases.

It's as simple as that.

Warner's new policy is to use lossless on as many titles as possible.

The Aviator was encoded a LONG time ago and has only now found its way to release. That is why there is no lossless audio on either format.

Boycotting this title won't solve anything.

I point to the 24-bit tracks on recent releases as an example of Warner's current policy regarding audio.

They aren't going to go back and redo a title for lossless. The reason Superman Returns got TrueHD and PCM on Blu-ray (the Pioneer Elite version) was because the lossless encode already existed.

There will still be a few sneak out here are there without lossless, but it's only because they were encoded several months ago.

For example, the full version of Hamlet AFAIK has been ready for sometime, but a suitable release window hasn't presented itself yet.

[HD Guru]

The fact is they could have added an extra track to Blu and chose not to.

No, they would have had to go back to the studio and redo the encode, then they would have included it on both formats.

It does suck that just b/c HD DVD is an inferior technology, Blu-ray has to be held back. It's not the first time this has happened.

This flick was encoded a long time ago, that's why there's no lossless audio on it. It's nothing to do with formats.

[ack_bak]

Warner's new policy is to use lossless on as many titles as possible.

The Aviator was encoded a LONG time ago and has only now found its way to release. That is why there is no lossless audio on either format.

Boycotting this title won't solve anything.

I point to the 24-bit tracks on recent releases as an example of Warner's current policy regarding audio.

They aren't going to go back and redo a title for lossless. The reason Superman Returns got TrueHD and PCM on Blu-ray (the Pioneer Elite version) was because the lossless encode already existed.

There will still be a few sneak out here are there without lossless, but it's only because they were encoded several months ago.

For example, the full version of Hamlet AFAIK has been ready for sometime, but a suitable release window hasn't presented itself yet.

Good information and that definitely sheds some light on the matter. I was somewhat unimpressed with this movie. I was expecting more.