Thread: Thoughts from your average joe.
11-07-2007 01:41 PM #1
Thoughts from your average joe.
As you can see this is my first post here on this site. I found it by accident while researching the Toshiba A2. Someone at work told me they heard about the Walmart sale for 98 bucks and I wanted to read about it. At that price I thought it was time for me to jump in! Actually bought 3. 1 for myself and 2 for family and a friend that couldn't make it to Walmart that morning. I actually sold all 3 to Co. Workers after finding out about the A3 sale at Best Buy. 199.00 With 300/Bourne Sup in the box. Pick 3 titles off the shelf and 5 by mail. I thought that's a better deal for me.
A little about myself. 43 years old. married, 2 kids. 100k a year. ( not Rich but doing alright ) Home Owner, 2 cars (Paid OFF!) 2003 and a 2004 models. And an RV. Own 500+ DVDs. Decent sound system, 1. 42" Toshiba Plasma, 2. 32" LCDs, 1. 15" LCD in my son's room. Every Game system ever out except the PS3. Never bought the HD DVD add-on for the 360. Mostly a PC gamer.
My DVD buying slowed down a lot since the HD players came out. I wasn't about to start investing more money in an Obsolete format! I didn't make the jump into the HD format right away because 1) Price! Way to high to justify the purchase. 2) Wanted to wait till the format war was over. (I know it;s not over yet!)
Here's my point. I got a headache reading these forums. Watching the Fanboys call each other Fanboys back and forth! Hahaha! You guys are crazy! In the beginning i was leaning to Blue Ray. Technically everything I read about it made it the better choice. Plus it was in the new PS3 coming out that i wanted. But 2 things happened that changed my mind.
1) I read this comparison on line between the 2 formats which said the HD DVD looked better! And it was because Blue Ray used an inferior compression. I don't claim to know anything about this. It's just what I read. Things may have changed since then.
2) When the PS3 came out and started getting horrible game reviews. I decided not to get it. That would have been my Blue Ray player until prices of stand alone players dropped.
I believe I'm your average consumer out there. Maybe a little more on the tech savvy side but not fanatical. Most of my friends and family are similar to myself. And they all got excited about this price drop. I didn't know 1 person that owned one of the new Format type players. Now i know 10+ HD DVD owners over night! (A few other Co Workers Bought players too) We are all talking about how great the picture is and telling each other about our new movie purchases. It's like the beginning of the DVD days again. Exciting!
I think this move to sell the players at this price point will push Blue Ray out eventually. It's not going to happen over night but it will happen unless Blue Ray can counter with a similar price before Christmas. Which everything I've read on here says isn't going to happen. PS3 may sell a few systems over the holidays but as a game system it's a failure. The library for the 360 is soooo much better! Even when comparing reviews of the same game on both systems the 360 runs and looks better. So I don't think Blue Ray should count on the PS3 to carry their Movie sales anymore.
Average consumers don't care about all the technical mumbo jumbo as much as some of you like to think. They care about value! And right now HD DVD is offering that. They have a very good line up of movies. Most of which everyone owns already on regular DVD. So if it's only on Blue Ray right now we can wait. Eventually if HD DVD wins Sony will have no choice to release their collection onto HD DVD.
11-07-2007 01:46 PM #2
Hummm...a well worded, thought out post in the smackdown section...
Welcome. Nice post. I thought that Walmart was limiting them to one per customer?
Oh, and enjoy your A3, it's a great machineI have one question..."Who is John Galt?"
11-07-2007 01:47 PM #3Member
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Second to address your point on which looks better: BD did have some problems to start out, but now the PQ between either format is pretty much identical.
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11-07-2007 01:48 PM #4
Welcome to the world of High def movies. As Obi Wan Kanobi put it so well...
"That's good. You have just taken your first steps into a larger world."
11-07-2007 01:49 PM #5
You're going to be beaten up and called a plant.I live in East Toronto and am married to a beautiful woman who runs a yoga studio. We have two wonderful kids, boy and girl, two cats and a mortgage that is almost paid off.
I have an HD-A20 and a PS3 but leaned red because the extras did count. Bye Bye HD, you gave it your best, that's all we could ask. Sony, finish your damn product already!
The Numbers: 900+ DVDs (rapidly declining), 34 HD-DVDs (+1 on order, + 5 free), 17 BDs (+2 on order). Last movie: Close Encounters.
11-07-2007 01:52 PM #6
I do think that when they do this again, they need to do it as policy at all Wal-MArts and make it 1 per customer.
Good first post, and I totally agree with you. Price will attract consumers, and then consumers will attract studios. Price comes first.Former Red Ant, now I'm a Smurf.
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11-07-2007 01:58 PM #7Member
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Great post - but if you don't say blu-ray instead of blue-ray - some fanboys are gonna shit themselves.I Bleed MOVIES - Remember those?
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11-07-2007 02:02 PM #8
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11-07-2007 02:05 PM #10
I've had my A2 for a few weeks now -- it's revived my love of movies, that's for sure. I stayed far away from this until the A2 became affordable enough to take the risk. I've bought more movies in the past few weeks than I have in years, and the gf and I have movie nights again because of the amazing quality. Welcome to the HD club
11-07-2007 02:05 PM #11Banned
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Wow, despite admitting in your second post that you're worried about which format will win you just jumped right in with three players and then ordered a fourth huh? I thought Wal*Mart had a one per customer limit on the A2's last week-end?
11-07-2007 02:07 PM #12
One for himself, two for others. Not so strange.
11-07-2007 02:08 PM #13
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11-07-2007 02:11 PM #15
I started off with a PS3 as well, so BD was going to be my format choice. The PS3 games and more so, the sixaxis use that is being put into alot of the games (alot of the exclusives), just made me go yuck!
I got rid of the PS3 but still wanted an HD player. After all the shenanigans on this forum, I decided to throw my support to HD DVD 100%. I think I made the best choice and I think you did too.
Good luck and have fun