What's the build date on your A2???

[marine92104]

Originally Posted by Balian

If you are talking about static technology based products like dvd players and toilet paper, you might have a point. However, HD DVD is suppose to be cutting edge technology and a new platform. Having them sitting in warehouses 10+ months is not a good sign. ROFL.

Sony had 2.6 billion dollars worth of PS3's sitting in a warehouse not moving when they fired crazy Ken.

That's alot of PS3's. I'm sure those are still being sold almost a year later. Who know's how long it's going to take to get rid of those.

[HarakoMeshi]

Originally Posted by marine92104

Sony had 2.6 billion dollars worth of PS3's sitting in a warehouse not moving when they fired crazy Ken.

That's alot of PS3's. I'm sure those are still being sold almost a year later. Who know's how long it's going to take to get rid of those.

Bad comparison. The PS3 has already sold over 5 million (WW) compared to all HD DVD players of at a guestimate 300k +/-. The A2 is not the only HD player, and it was planned to be superceded by A3. So for the A2 the stocking volumes we are talking about are a fraction of PS3.

Stocking half a million more players than you could sell when you know the player will be superceded long before selling that much would be a pretty daft idea. The only way I see that could happen is if they completely overestimated how many A2s they were going to have sold by the time A3 hit shelves.

[Coaler]

I bought 2 at BB on thursday and they were manufactured March 07.

[Dave J]

Originally Posted by HarakoMeshi

Stocking half a million more players than you could sell when you know the player will be superceded long before selling that much would be a pretty daft idea. The only way I see that could happen is if they completely overestimated how many A2s they were going to have sold by the time A3 hit shelves.

Correct. Toshiba confirmed as much back in June of this year.

Toshiba Cuts HD DVD Forecasts

By Greg Tarr -- TWICE, 6/12/2007 11:50:00 AM
Tokyo — A high-ranking Toshiba executive revealed to reporters here that disappointing sales in the United States have reduced the company’s sales projections for HD DVD players and recorders, according to a Reuters’ report.

Yoshihide Fujii, head of Toshiba's digital consumer business, said Toshiba’s electronics group now expects to sell 1 million HD DVD players in North America by the end of calendar 2007, down 44 percent from its previous estimate of 1.8 million unit sales, Reuters reported.

[mmmmDoNut]

The one I picked up today at 02/07

[marine92104]

Originally Posted by HarakoMeshi

Bad comparison. The PS3 has already sold over 5 million (WW) compared to all HD DVD players of at a guestimate 300k +/-. The A2 is not the only HD player, and it was planned to be superceded by A3. So for the A2 the stocking volumes we are talking about are a fraction of PS3.

Stocking half a million more players than you could sell when you know the player will be superceded long before selling that much would be a pretty daft idea. The only way I see that could happen is if they completely overestimated how many A2s they were going to have sold by the time A3 hit shelves.

So it was half a million PS3's in a warehouse not moving or sold. So the half a million PS3's equaled the 2.6 billion PS3's in inventory not sold back the 1st of the year?

Can that half a million number be right if the article listed the PS3 inventory built but not sold as 2.6 billion?

[Johnny Park]

Originally Posted by messin18

Just take a look at 60 gig ps3 models. From production to hitting a store shelf can take a full month ore more. Sony stopped makeing the 60 gig model what 4+ months ago? Yet there are still tons of them to be found in stores. It's normal.

The 60 GB PS3 I bought 2 weeks ago was made in March.

[Balian]

Originally Posted by hd4me

You know you want one. Just take a picture of yours.

Hell will need to freeze over before I consider buying a stand alone HD DVD player. The closest I will come would be a combo player if HD DVD still survives.

[HarakoMeshi]

Originally Posted by marine92104

So it was half a million PS3's in a warehouse not moving or sold. So the half a million PS3's equaled the 2.6 billion PS3's in inventory not sold back the 1st of the year?

Can that half a million number be right if the article listed the PS3 inventory built but not sold as 2.6 billion?

Sorry, you've lost me. Which article? Where are you getting 2.6 billion in inventory on the 1st of the year from?

As I recall it they struggled to ship even half a million in November plus had to delay European launch until end of March, so I don't see how they could've had 5 million PS3s sitting around on January 1st.

That's not to say that they don't have a billion$ $ worth of Cell chips and a billiion of RSX and whatever other parts they stockpiled. My point was, PS3 was forecasted to sell millions so its normal to stockpile millions.

Toshiba forecasted 1 million HD DVD players sold by end of FY2008, split between A2, A20, XA2, A3, A30.

[Geonosis]

Originally Posted by messin18

This isn't really anything strange. Check pretty much any dvd player and you'll see the same thing. Of course desparate fanboys will try to spin ANYTHING into a format war issue and a negative but this is normal.

Just take a look at 60 gig ps3 models. From production to hitting a store shelf can take a full month ore more. Sony stopped makeing the 60 gig model what 4+ months ago? Yet there are still tons of them to be found in stores. It's normal.

They absolutely would. And yeah you're right, the 60GB are still being sold and when my friend got his in September from Amazon.com for $499, it was from a few months. I would check my HD player but between the audio receiver on top of it and the tight cables, it would be such a hassle to check lol

[Bee]

Let's not talk about inventory not moving. The Sam's Club by my home as of tonight still have a half a dozen 20 gig PS3's still trying to be sold. I go there from time to time hoping they will have a fire sale on them. I checked tonight since the 40 gig came out at the price point of $399...still wasn't happening. $450 with an extra controller was the price.

[DueNorth]

Originally Posted by Bee

Let's not talk about inventory not moving. The Sam's Club by my home as of tonight still have a half a dozen 20 gig PS3's still trying to be sold. I go there from time to time hoping they will have a fire sale on them. I checked tonight since the 40 gig came out at the price point of $399...still wasn't happening. $450 with an extra controller was the price.

Yeah... Sam's Club or Costco sucks with regards to lowering prices. I saw 60GB PS3 with extra controler and a game for like $650 CDN.

However a big difference, Sony didn't do crazy firesale. They want to maintain some value for people who purchased them at higher prices. By differentiating each model (BC levels, HD capacity, etc.), they did that so people don't feel that bad when prices go down.

[dysfunction26]

Originally Posted by Balian

LOL ...solid evidence that Toshiba is INDEED dumping old inventory!

Funny, on AVS, someone has a HD-A2 manufactured in October 2007 in Japan. Wouldn't they have stopped manufacturing them by now? I mean the new HD-A3's came out in the beginning of October. Sounds like those might be part of the players manufactured exclusively for Wal-mart.

[DueNorth]

Originally Posted by dysfunction26

Funny, on AVS, someone has a HD-A2 manufactured in October 2007 in Japan. Wouldn't they have stopped manufacturing them by now? I mean the new HD-A3's came out in the beginning of October. Sounds like those might be part of the players manufactured exclusively for Wal-mart.

I don't know how much I would believe it because I don't usually associate cheap electronics being manufactured exclusively for Walmart coming out of JAPAN.

[dysfunction26]

Originally Posted by DueNorth

I don't know how much I would believe it because I don't usually associate cheap electronics being manufactured exclusively for Walmart coming out of JAPAN.

Well, I asked for the 2 people on AVS who posted that date to post pictures, if they do, then what?