View Poll Results: What will Bluray's sell through growth be for 2013?
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02-07-2013, 09:57 PM #91
Both I think almost everyone here would agree with that off the get go. It's hard to see any other significance in that data.
That being said blu-ray can no longer boast that being a HD physical format even with curtailed adoption for reasons speculated here is not longer growing faster than all of EST <- this is true as you said.
Last edited by Sbert; 02-07-2013 at 10:27 PM.
02-08-2013, 12:55 AM #92
02-08-2013, 09:42 AM #93
One also has to wonder why exactly was EST up so much last year. I don't think they sold many UV downloads so it may have been the Walmart DVD-->UV trade in program or something. That kind of revenue stream is not sustainable.
02-08-2013, 10:31 AM #94Member
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Expecting 1 to 4% of increase..
02-08-2013, 07:46 PM #95Roku2, Roku3, Samsung 1600, Insignia BR W/Netflix!
02-08-2013, 09:23 PM #96
When I think of blu-ray to est comparison, those critical of blu-ray performance all this time should be even more critical about digital's growth.
02-08-2013, 10:26 PM #97
Is digital a complete failure for home video as well? I mean it has been out for quite awhile now and has failed to do what DVD did at the same point in time. I think we all agree that EST will never match what DVD generated at it's peak in terms of revenue growth. So does that make it a failure?
Or are there other factors to consider, like I don't know, a market that has shifted considerably from buying to renting/streaming cheaply? Could that not have something to do with it?
02-10-2013, 05:17 PM #98
HDTV? I don't know enough about the costs that were involved and how much money those involved have made to really give an opinion. My guess is that it hasn't done much at all.
Digital streaming? So for yes. Failure. But unlike Bluray. Digital is the future and has a future. Bluray doesn't. So there is still time for it being a totally new way of getting your content. Physical had a 100 year or so run? Digital is just starting. I'd love to hear what you think of my opinion rather than just ignoring my answer to your question.Roku2, Roku3, Samsung 1600, Insignia BR W/Netflix!
02-15-2013, 07:09 PM #99
Physical has been around for 100 years or more, and I think it will always be around because people want to collect or own something tangible. Sometimes the packaging is just as important as the content. I bought a digibook of TDK Returns not because I wanted the packaging more than I wanted the movie. If I just wanted the movie and wasn't in any hurry to see it, then I would have waited 1-2 years and bought on a BF sale for $3.99. But I bought the digibook because I thought it looked cool and it was a Target exclusive.
I think laserdisc was highly collectible as well, and DVD as well. There will always be collectors. The question is, to what extent?
02-17-2013, 11:43 AM #100
An analyst is predicting 6% growth for BD in 2013.
The decline is primarily driven by a projected 15% drop in DVD sales to $5.2 billion, offset by 6% rise in Blu-ray purchases to $2.5 billion and 40% surge in electronic sellthrough to $1.1 billion.
02-17-2013, 03:24 PM #101Roku2, Roku3, Samsung 1600, Insignia BR W/Netflix!
02-17-2013, 03:59 PM #102
02-17-2013, 09:56 PM #103
If people could have predicted a shift away from purchasing towards rentals and unlimited streaming and streaming TV shows, and if the CE manufacturers could have sooner recognized the true intent behind HDTV purchases was for the form factor and energy consumption and not necessarily HD content, then Blu-ray's expectations would never have been so high.
02-17-2013, 11:03 PM #104
Yes cakefoo. Things change sometimes. But what you seem to be saying is that all of the fanboy rants that Bluray will be a great success because of the bit rates and picture and disc size and scratch proof were really wrong? That DVD wasn't good enough and that mainstream consumers would be on board with Bluray were wrong? Because you do remember at the height of our debates here when some of us saw the writing on the wall looking at poor Bluray sales, we said all these things and were met with much disagreement? I sure do. Hey, don't feel bad. I thought the same thing too about HDM. I just wasn't attached to the winning format to be in denial about it for so long. I saw it as soon as we started seeing such lackluster sales. Maybe if HDDVD had won we would be having the same arguments from different ends of the table?Roku2, Roku3, Samsung 1600, Insignia BR W/Netflix!
02-17-2013, 11:20 PM #105
I think Cakefoo and Sbert think you are saying Blu-ray should surpass what DVD did in its peak ($13.9 billion in 2006), while you're actually saying that Blu-ray should be replacing DVD period. I don't think it ever was a lofty goal that Blu-ray should be the dominant format for watching movies. That's what everyone was expecting. But that's not going to happen now. Blu-ray will never be the "next gen" format (ie, the most popular), because even if it gets close to overtaking DVD, IF it does, digital will be the dominant sell through format by then.
I have doubts now that Blu-ray will ever overtake DVD. If it ever does, by then OD will be of small consequence and it won't really matter. Two years ago I was sure it would happen, but not now. Not the way growth has been stifled. I'm amazed that in spite the studios best efforts (short of cutting off their own arm by discontinuing DVD), consumer interest is so weak.