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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Gruber View Post
    training day with its VC-1 looks better than its blu ray MPEG-2 counterpart according both reviews from this site . I know for a fact that the HD Dvd of training days looks amazing
    Thanks Hans. Let me know if you come across any others not on the list.

    List of HD DVDs that have better PQ (based on reviews, consensus posts from screenshot threads, other posts, and my own comparisons). The imports are compared to the US Blu-ray.

    Paramount/Dreamworks:
    Sahara
    Four Brothers
    Aeon Flux
    The Italian Job
    Reds
    Coming to America
    Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
    Dreamgirls
    Sleepy Hollow
    We Were Soldiers

    Universal:
    Apollo 13
    The Thing
    The Mummy
    The Mummy Returns
    U-571
    Army of Darkness
    Casino
    Spartacus
    Tremors
    Animal House
    The Big Lebowski
    Daylight
    Happy Gilmore

    Warner:
    Training Day

    Imports:
    Band of Brothers
    Terminator 2: Judgement Day
    Total Recall
    Crank
    Silent Hill
    Equilibrium
    The Machinist
    1408
    Reservoir Dogs

    List of HD DVDs that have better audio specs than their (U.S.) Blu-ray counterparts.

    WB: (HD DVD is TrueHD while Blu-ray is DD@640mbps)

    Ant Bully
    Happy Feet
    Lady in the Water
    Phantom of the Opera
    Training Day
    The Wicker Man

    Paramount/Dreamworks: (HD DVD is DD+@1.5mbps while Blu-ray is DD@640mbps)

    Aeon Flux
    Babel
    Black Snake Moan
    Coming to America
    Dreamgirls
    Face/Off
    Failure To Launch
    Flags of Our Fathers
    Four Brothers
    Freedom Writers
    Hustle & Flow
    The Italian Job
    Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
    The Manchurian Candidate
    Mission: Impossible
    Mission: Impossibe II
    Mission: Impossible III
    Nacho Libre
    Norbit
    Payback: Straight Up - The Director's Cut
    Reds
    Sahara
    Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
    Sleepy Hollow
    Shooter
    Trading Places
    U2: Rattle and Hum
    The Warriors
    We Were Soldiers
    World Trade Center
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    how do you know that casino looks better on hd dvd ? ive never seen the blu ray but i thought it was the same transfer ? maybe added dnr ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blckman View Post
    I would have to say the Matrix: Ultimate Set, Poseiden, and the T2 Steelbook are superb. I would have to argue that Harry Potter 1-5 set is great as well. Now another one or two that comes to mind is the Blade Runner five-disc set looks amazing on HD-DVD as well. I haven't purchased Band of Brothers yet, but from what I have read from the many opinions in this forum that the HD-DVD version of Band of Brothers eliminates a bit more of the grain versus the Blu-ray edition. In fact, I saw some screenshots in another forum and if the screenshots are correct, it in fact looks better. Peace...
    The HD-DVD version of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone seems to be slightly lighter than the US Blu-Ray coutnerpart, but I thought it was just my equipment. Batman Begins seems to look better to me, but I think they use the same encode. Most of my HD-DVDs use the same video encode as the Blu-Ray counterpart - the difference is that the Blu-Ray GENERALLY has better audio. The exception is Phantom of the Opera - the Blu-Ray did not have HD audio.
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    Animal House and The Big Lebowski added to above list.

    HD DVD exclusives

    Since the Tremors release, are there any other Blu-ray Universal titles known to have excessive DNR as compared to the HD DVD? Or any other movies missing that should (or should not) be on the list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
    American Graffiti, Animal House and The Big Lebowski added to above list.

    HD DVD exclusives

    Since the Tremors release, are there any other Blu-ray Universal titles known to have excessive DNR as compared to the HD DVD? Or any other movies missing that should (or should not) be on the list?
    I didn't know American Graffiti was released on HD DVD. Was it a foreign release?
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    Oops, my bad. I was thinking of Apollo 13, but that's already on the list. Sorry for the confusion, I guess I wasn't awake yet, LOL.
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    Dazed and confused blu ray look worse than the hd DVD. Im hearing lots of dnr
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    Thanks Hans. I think that one is coming out on Criterion in a few months so it'll probably be up to snuff.
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    Yea so is dazed and confused from criterion, I hope the pq of that one is actually gonna be better than the hd DVD. I'm not holding my breath though if it's all from the same master
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceames View Post
    Thanks Hans. Let me know if you come across any others not on the list.

    List of HD DVDs that have better PQ (based on reviews, consensus posts from screenshot threads, other posts, and my own comparisons). The imports are compared to the US Blu-ray.
    What about DAYLIGHT? THis DOBLU review seems to indicate there is more DNR on the Blu-ray than the HD DVD, though it does not say for sure. The pics have more DNR than I remember the HD DVD having - anyone care to compare?

    http://www.doblu.com/2011/07/09/daylight-review/

    Also, what is the difference in Casino?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruined View Post
    What about DAYLIGHT? THis DOBLU review seems to indicate there is more DNR on the Blu-ray than the HD DVD, though it does not say for sure. The pics have more DNR than I remember the HD DVD having - anyone care to compare?

    http://www.doblu.com/2011/07/09/daylight-review/

    Also, what is the difference in Casino?
    I'll rent Daylight BD to see how it compares with the HD DVD.

    I think Casino was one of those titles I put on the list from directly comparing them on my BH200. It only made the list that way if the difference was fairly obvious, and since Casino is a later title, it's probably because of DNR, but I'm going to put it back in the queue to make sure it's not another typo, lol.
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    I just checked myself. DAYLIGHT was clearly given a drive by DNR based on those screenshots at DOBLU.COM compared to the HD DVD. It is just as bad as THE THING, if not worse!! Add it to the list!!

    That being said, I think there are some titles on the list where the difference is exaggerated and probably do not belong on the list.

    IMO, the ones I know of that are SIGNIFICANTLY better on HD DVD that do not require extensive screenshot analysis and stop motion/etc or analysis of tech specs are:

    Paramount/Dreamworks:
    -Coming to America

    Universal:
    -Animal House
    -Apollo 13
    -Army of Darkness
    -The Big Lebowski
    -Daylight
    -The Thing
    -U-571

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    Would like to see more investigation on:
    -An American Werewolf in London
    -Backdraft
    -Billy Madison
    -Casino
    -Happy Gilmore
    -The Last Starfighter (I know the HD DVD sucked. Does the BD suck more?)

    There are some on HD DVD that had lossless soundtracks or more advanced video codecs, but that doesnt always translate to a huge difference when actually watching the film.
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    Added Daylight, and put Training Day BD in my Netflix queue to confirm whether it belongs on the list.
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    I am also hearing THE LAST STARFIGHTER is much more scrubbed on Blu-ray than HD DVD.
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    I added some of those movies to my queue, but there's a few that Netflix doesn't have on Blu-ray (Backdraft and Billy Madison for example). Checking out Waterworld as well.

    I have The Big Lebowski BD from Netflix right now, but solely for my own curiousity. It's not like it's gonna look better than the screenshots (of which I wish we had for these later titles).
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