Canon HR10 and Blu-ray

[ARPRINCE]

Canon recently came out with the HR10 DVD camcorder that I am interested on getting. It boast of 1920x1080 High Definition video capture in a 3 inch DVD disk.

Now I wanted to know what type of a player I need to playback the High Def recordings (don't know if Canon is part of the blu-ray group os the response was interesting to me).

Excerpt of my email below:

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Dear Mr. xxxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting Canon product support regarding the HR10 DVD
camcorder. We value you as a Canon customer and appreciate the
opportunity to assist you. I apologize for the confusion regarding your
inquiry.

AVCHD uses an MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) video codec. The compressed audio and
video data are encapsulated in an MPEG-2 Transport stream, called HDMV.
This stream format and most of the structure of AVCHD are derived from
the Blu-ray Disc BDMV format. Consequently, AVCHD recordings can be
played without modification in most set-top Blu-ray Disc players, such
as the Sony BDP-S1, Panasonic DMP-BD10, and the PlayStation 3.

We hope this information is helpful to you. For further assistance,
please call our Canon Pre-Sales Department at 1(800) 828-4040 between
8:00 am and midnight ET, seven days a week. The Pre-Sales agents can
assist you with product information and dealer locations.

Thank you for choosing Canon.

Sincerely,

Chris
Technical Support Representative

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Original Message Follows:
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The MODEL I'm referring to is the HR10 which uses a 3 inch DVD disk
instead
of a miniDV tape. So what I want to know is what player do I need to see
high def recordings on the disk, a BLU-RAY or an HD DVD player?

So the model again is the

HR10.<http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...elInfoAct&fcat
egoryid=177&modelid=15264>

[Ashamed Pegasus]

Blu-ray players will read the AVCHD coded which is what the HD content is written on, however (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) I do not think the PS3 is capable of playing a 3" disc... These discs will also play in some PC's through the DVD drive if you have the proper software... You best option would be to find one in a store, record on the disc, and see if it plays in your model Blu-ray player... I have not seen an actual list of which players support these...

[ARPRINCE]

Originally Posted by Ashamed Pegasus

Blu-ray players will read the AVCHD coded which is what the HD content is written on, however (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) I do not think the PS3 is capable of playing a 3" disc... These discs will also play in some PC's through the DVD drive if you have the proper software... You best option would be to find one in a store, record on the disc, and see if it plays in your model Blu-ray player... I have not seen an actual list of which players support these...

Ohhhh....darn. I only have a PS3. I have to check in this though - thanks.

[Philnerd]

You might want to give the disc a spin on an HD DVD player as well, the AVCHD format used would likely play on those too (if the player reads the file structure and such of course).

To play on your PS3, you can probably just drag the files off the mini DVD and burn them right onto a standard DVD.

[ARPRINCE]

Originally Posted by Philnerd

You might want to give the disc a spin on an HD DVD player as well, the AVCHD format used would likely play on those too (if the player reads the file structure and such of course).

To play on your PS3, you can probably just drag the files off the mini DVD and burn them right onto a standard DVD.

Yes but that would defeat the purpose of getting a camcorder with a disk recording media. I sent an eMail to PS support but they came back to me with generic information taken off the manual. I think I'll wait and do some more research or at least until the unit goes mainstream and I get more feedback. Thanks

[Pat H]

Originally Posted by Philnerd

You might want to give the disc a spin on an HD DVD player as well, the AVCHD format used would likely play on those too (if the player reads the file structure and such of course).

To play on your PS3, you can probably just drag the files off the mini DVD and burn them right onto a standard DVD.

As far as I know only BD players are capable of reading a raw AVC HD disk from a camcorder. Although with some of the newer versions of Nero you can burn the high def file as an HD DVD (using a regular DVD disk). So basically there's no need to use an actual HD DVD disk if you want to make your own HD DVD, a DVD with the encoded HD DVD image is fine. No need to wait till HD DVD burners become common place (as long as you're movie is relatively short).

And as far as I know, Nero can also burn a Blu-Ray image, but I think you'd need to use an actual BD disk w/ a BD burner.

[greener]

Originally Posted by ARPRINCE

Ohhhh....darn. I only have a PS3. I have to check in this though - thanks.

the PS3 WILL PLAY your 3 inch disc from your camcorder recorded in Hi Def, but be sure to FINALIZE the disc before putting it into your PS3, it slowly takes it in just as it does the regular discs, i am using a sony HDR UX1 AVCHD camcorder and in hi def the pix is unbelievable, especially using a hi def projection system and it is much nicer to go from camcorder to playback right away bypassing the computer,

[ARPRINCE]

Glad to know - Thanks!!