High Def upscaled beyond 1080p

[joebmed]

Just finished watching National Treasure on Blu-ray and started thinking about the comparison between it at native 1080p and watching it when it originally came out on DVD. Then I was watching it on my multi-region Sony TV that has a built in line doubler/scaler a la "DRC". It made me wonder how long it will be until we see a 2160p hdtv with this sort of technology or BD players with a HQV Reon/Realta (or something even more advanced) chip in them performing upscaling duties. While, I do believe this will eventually come to market or maybe the 4K hdtvs with the same idea. I do believe that it will be some years before this happens. CEs need to make a decent return on investment with the current tech that has recently (since the advent of HD) come stores. The question I pose to all of you is this something that you see as a likely scenario? If so, how long do you think it will be until comes to market? If and when it does, will you rush out and by this too. Me, I am more than happy and content with my current set-up. For me 1080p and lossless audio is more than enough. However, I will end up buying one of these new theorized ultra hdtvs when my current one gives out on me or I have frivolous money to spend. What are your thoughts on this in the possible future? Well, I'm off to watch National Treasure 2. C-ya all 2morrow.

[chipvideo]

I would bet that within 5 years we see 4K sets. The 1080p will be the budget sets for most and 720p will be the real low income people who can barely afford a tv as it is. Somone has to do it as there are a lot of higher class people that would buy it. I actually think we will see something half way between 4k and 1080p like just doubling the pixel count of 1080p sets.

I just wish it would happen sooner rather than later. Tech is so addicting.

[view-it-purple]

Originally Posted by chipvideo

I would bet that within 5 years we see 4K sets. The 1080p will be the budget sets for most and 720p will be the real low income people who can barely afford a tv as it is. Somone has to do it as there are a lot of higher class people that would buy it. I actually think we will see something half way between 4k and 1080p like just doubling the pixel count of 1080p sets.

I just wish it would happen sooner rather than later. Tech is so addicting.

. . .

You think people are going to buy special sets just for watching movies?

Their having to force people in to HD, and you think going to line-up unless their impoverished?

Someone should let anyone of this view know that the broadcasters didn't want 720p & 1080i to be standards they fought for 480p standard and CEs wanted 1080p the present standard was a compromise.

[Nighthawk]

Guys, the reason we even have 1080p capable displays today is because the FCC adopted the ATSC standard back in '97. Do you see the FCC adopting a new standard anytime soon? Thus, why would manufacturers be inclined to make a display with greater resolution than 1080p? I suppose projectors will display 4k long before anything else does. But even then, who's going to provide 4k content and on what undeveloped format?

[Josh Z]

Keep in mind that upscaling disc content to a higher resolution does not add real detail. It just fills in the empty spaces between pixels.

[LastSonOfKrypton]

Originally Posted by Josh Z

Keep in mind that upscaling disc content to a higher resolution does not add real detail. It just fills in the empty spaces between pixels.

I was thinking that same thing. Without the proper processing the upscaled image has potential to look worse than the original. I doubt you'll see any consumer TVs beyond 1080p in the future. I say consumer because I mean, actual production models. Besides...Unless you're sitting 5' away from a 100" screen, how much of a difference do you think you're actually going to see?

[Blu-Balls]

Do you really need more than 1080p at home anyway? I mean really, how big does your home TV screen have to be for you to see a difference between 1080p and 4k?

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

I have a 50" and it's a huge TV for my living room in my condo. I don't think a 4k 50" TV will make much of a difference. The screen is too small to see a difference.

I remember reading somewhere that for you to see a difference between hi-def and standard-def DVDs, you need a screen larger than 35-40"s.

[Filler]

Originally Posted by Blu-Balls

I remember reading somewhere that for you to see a difference between hi-def and standard-def DVDs, you need a screen larger than 35-40"s.

It depends on how far away you sit from the screen.

[hatih]

Originally Posted by Blu-Balls

Do you really need more than 1080p at home anyway? I mean really, how big does your home TV screen have to be for you to see a difference between 1080p and 4k?

No, you probably don't. But when you have a projector...

I remember reading somewhere that for you to see a difference between hi-def and standard-def DVDs, you need a screen larger than 35-40"s.

I think that it was between 720P and 1080P, not with SD and HD.

[dsskid]

No reason to build it if they are not going to provide 4K content.

[daybreaker]

I personally don't see the point of Cinema 4k for the regular consumer. There is such a display in existence....the Sapphire 56" 4k monitor comes to mind. It costs around $60k. I'm not one to turn my nose up at a higher quality method of watching movies...but the absurd impracticality of watching 4k movies at home is totally incongruent with current technology. We'd need a medium that carried far more data than a Blu Ray disc and a hardware decoder beefy enough to read it and a TV willing to accept it. I don't doubt that some day soon we will be able to do so with some degree of practicality...but at the end of the day it may not be worth it just because we can only see so much detail in the space of a television. Cinema 4k is almost overkill for a movie theater...

[STR8UP&DOWN]

Originally Posted by chipvideo

... Somone has to do it as there are a lot of higher class people that would buy it.

Not to nitpick or anything ... but you might want to replace "higher class people" with "people with money to throw away".

[BLU HD DEFENDER]

i agree and not to mention " really low income people who can barely afford a tv to begin with"

Originally Posted by STR8UP&DOWN

Not to nitpick or anything ... but you might want to replace "higher class people" with "people with money to throw away".

[raunchy]

itll be a long long long long longggg (i cant stress long more!) long time before any new hd standard becomes widespread. we've had 480i signal for what? almost 50 years now? and even today i seen many people dont have enough money or just dont feel the need to upgrade to anything past 480p yet. the whole industry is very hard headed. so keep going to those theatres thats as close to 4k as youll get for a looooo--you get the idea! while