Okay Warner, it's time to stop with the LOSSY audio...

[93xfan]

this is twice in a row that WB has been using Dolby Digital on a new release rather than lossless. every other major studio has gotten it right, so why is Warner being stupid. all i know is that they will not get a dime from me unless they give me lossless audio, regardless of the film (not including TV shows)

[Supermodified]

Agreed. Its supposed to be HD and we are getting the Hd picture but why no Hd sound

[MrFalconHD]

And it's not even like slightly upgraded either. I can understand no TrueHD or something... but what about Dolby Digital Plus or DTS HD High Res? Hell, I'd take regular DTS over plain ol' Dolby any day.

[GamerGuyX]

Originally Posted by MrFalconHD

And it's not even like slightly upgraded either.

Technically there is a tiny upgrade. A DD track on Blu-ray has a bitrate of 640kbps on compared to 448kbps on DVD.

[melodywhore]

it's multi-channel audio and it's better than dvd. what more could you want?

just like no film on sd dvd had equal audio specs or quality, i don't see why you guys would think that it would be different on blu-ray. especially since most people don't even have multi-channel setups.

enjoy the fact that all movie studios are now on board and are either releasing titles or plan on it. some blu-ray advocates are excessively whiney and i just don't understand it.

[MrFalconHD]

I don't think it's too crazy to ask that a disc of a movie that was released less than 6 months ago, with a relatively high budget and a pricetag at or above 20 dollars to have some kind of lossless or high bitrate audio option. Older titles, low budget movies or movies that wouldn't really benefit from an audio upgrade: it's not the end of the world. But alot of studios are releasing lossless audio on every release, with what we pay, is it really so much to hope for?

This is where the extra capacity of Blu ray is supposed to be paying off. Isn't this why they made the switch? They effectively killed the format I loved, I'm damn sure going to take them to task for hobbling the benefits of their chosen media. You don't add 20 gigs of extra space just to put a slightly upgraded Dolby Digital on your discs. At least do DD+ 1.5... it sounded amazing on alot of Uni and Paramount HD DVD releases (Hot Fuzz anyone?)and those were on HD30's!

[melodywhore]

here's a thought as to why this may be happening. a film that is released on video has a certain budget and they're creating two separate discs: dvd and blu-ray. current dvds are getting the benefit of being mastered in high def. and if the budget doesn't allow for it, then blu-ray discs may be getting shafted on audio. they're getting the higher bit rate encode, but it's still a dolby digital 5.1.

but it happens all the time... for the roswell television series on dvd, the packaging looks cheap and they didn't spend as much money as they did on a series like buffy the vampire slayer. it's all about how much money they have to spend and where they're going to spend it.

just be happy you're not getting condensed 2-channel stereo... we had to live with that shit for over ten years with blade runner!

[93xfan]

Originally Posted by melodywhore

it's multi-channel audio and it's better than dvd. what more could you want?

just like no film on sd dvd had equal audio specs or quality, i don't see why you guys would think that it would be different on blu-ray. especially since most people don't even have multi-channel setups.

enjoy the fact that all movie studios are now on board and are either releasing titles or plan on it. some blu-ray advocates are excessively whiney and i just don't understand it.

why can't i expect them to keep up with the other studios? what's this "let's settle for whatever they give us" mentality? i bought a lossless receiver to take advantage of Blu-ray, and if a studio can't measure up, then i'll wait for a re-release or for the title to go way down in price.

i mean, they are still charging $30 at most retail stores for these releases.

[vinnie97]

Maybe they did the research and didn't deem it necessary. I say they have the right to select whatever audio configuration they deem appropriate for their movies. If it wasn't for Warner, after all, the bane of some people's existence, HD DVD, would still be alive today. To conclude, don't come bitching here about how Warner didn't give you the audio you want. Take it to them directly and actually make your voice heard where it counts most.

[view-it-purple]

Originally Posted by melodywhore

it's multi-channel audio and it's better than dvd. what more could you want?

Lossless.

Originally Posted by melodywhore

just like no film on sd dvd had equal audio specs or quality, i don't see why you guys would think that it would be different on blu-ray. especially since most people don't even have multi-channel setups.

Most people don't have HDTVs. So why bother?
In 1997 when DVD came out how many people had multi-channel setups then?
By the way.
32% of American homes have a theater room. It doesn't even add value to the property. Seems like a lot of wasted effort if audio isn't that important.
In America 1 million basements are finished or remolded every year. What is the #1 room added? That's right a theater room.
Listen to yourself, build technology to fit todays needs not tomorrows.

[Wulf]

What? you didn't sign up for double dipping? You must be living in a fairy tale to think you were going to get the full package in one buy! These studios know how to make money! They also, know your fool enough to buy a movie twice since, your a early adopter! Just bend over and take your licks like a good supporter.

[nickherum]

So the big complaint here is that The Bucket List and Fool's Gold don't have lossless sound? You're kidding me right? Maybe you should complain to WB about how they release crappy movies instead of the lack of lossless sound. I didn't watch either of these movies and I get paid to watch movies. Maybe they know their new movies are shit so they gave these "messes" a good ole DD 5.1 track and are working harder on their catalog BDs.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by nickherum

So the big complaint here is that The Bucket List and Fool's Gold don't have lossless sound? You're kidding me right? Maybe you should complain to WB about how they release crappy movies instead of the lack of lossless sound. I didn't watch either of these movies and I get paid to watch movies. Maybe they know their new movies are shit so they gave these "messes" a good ole DD 5.1 track and are working harder on their catalog BDs.

If that's true why does Batman: Gotham Knight not have lossless sound? This disc will cater to the BD audience, who values lossless audio, IMHO.

[Clessy]

I honestly don't think most of the world gives a damn. DVD quality audio is good enough for most people. Plus only a small % of people have the audio equipment to benifit from these better audio methods.

Also on the fact the warner has the best HD media sales and the best movie selection I really doubt they could care less about it.

[krylonman]

Originally Posted by melodywhore

it's multi-channel audio and it's better than dvd. what more could you want?

just like no film on sd dvd had equal audio specs or quality, i don't see why you guys would think that it would be different on blu-ray. especially since most people don't even have multi-channel setups.

enjoy the fact that all movie studios are now on board and are either releasing titles or plan on it. some blu-ray advocates are excessively whiney and i just don't understand it.

Amen. Lossless compression is great, but high-res Dolby Digital soundtracks are not a horrendous insult. (And yes, I have a lossless receiver.) It's not just that it's still a noticeable improvement over DVD, it's that it really can sound terrific even if it's not straight PCM. That's what compression is, you know?

Frankly, I have to wonder how many people who allegedly find this an outrage would be able to identify which type of soundtrack they were listening to without the back of the box telling them in advance.