Seperate 250 gig 360 HDD coming soon?

[Pyrochaos]

I got a bad gamestop link.

Hope it wasn't just an accident.

[Godstar]

Godstar has been talking about doing it for like 5 years.

Well I would have done it by now, but they haven't put out the patch yet that allows non-LE consoles to upgrade.

[Godstar]

Links to instructions??? Please.

Google is your friend, there are also Boob-Tube videos.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/15097...the_cheap.html

[BettiePage]

holy shit... so even the HDs are the same but MS charges you 150 to 200% mark up for a formatting the HD for you?

[michealo]

Once the drive is formatted with their license, it doesn't matter. It only works with certain models, and they aren't going to stop supporting those. Why? because they use them themselves. MS doesn't make their own drives, they order them out.

I know someone that has been using a flashed HDD for years *cough* and they never ran into a problem. I don't think there would be any reason to go after a "non MS" HDD, as it doesn't serve any other purpose other than the same as the legit drives.

i understand they order drives from other manufacturers, but not purchasing a MS OEM drive circumvents their accessory licensing process. it would be quite easy for them to compare drive serial numbers. just not a risk i'm comfortable with. wasn't all the MW2 hacking done via modified HDD's?

[Godstar]

holy shit... so even the HDs are the same but MS charges you 150 to 200% mark up for a formatting the HD for you?

Yes, basically, plus the cable. But that's just a proprietary USB cable, so even that should be only $2-3. Also, it's more than just 200%, it's more like ~430% since they're charging you $130 for a $30 HD.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...&aqi=&aql=&oq=

[Godstar]

i understand they order drives from other manufacturers, but not purchasing a MS OEM drive circumvents their accessory licensing process. it would be quite easy for them to compare drive serial numbers. just not a risk i'm comfortable with. wasn't all the MW2 hacking done via modified HDD's?

It's not exactly the same thing. They can't ban serial numbers of the same manufacture they buy their HD's from. An OEM drive is an OEM drive. They SD cards they were banning were from a non-MS manufacturer, which is why they were able to disable them.

If you're afraid of losing saves, you can always back them up to an MS memory card, and then do the transfer and then copy them back when you're done. Either way, people have been doing this for quite awhile without a problem.

[Pyrochaos]

Yeah be cause Nintendo or Sony doesn't rape you on accessories either...

[Godstar]

Yeah be cause Nintendo or Sony doesn't rape you on accessories either...

They probably do, just not on this particular one. MS cleverly went and made every part J6P friendly and charge you for it, which is fine for some, but annoying for others.

Nintendo charges $60 for that proprietary component cable of theirs. Plus theirs all the add on crap like Motion+.

Sony is actually pretty good about allowing others to produce stuff for their console which lowers costs. You don't have to buy proprietary HDMI cables, USB cables, etc.

[michealo]

It's not exactly the same thing. They can't ban serial numbers of the same manufacture they buy their HD's from. An OEM drive is an OEM drive. They SD cards they were banning were from a non-MS manufacturer, which is why they were able to disable them.

If you're afraid of losing saves, you can always back them up to an MS memory card, and then do the transfer and then copy them back when you're done. Either way, people have been doing this for quite awhile without a problem.

i don't see why MS couldn't ban drive serial numbers, as they are all unique.


the SD card thing is certainly different but similar in the aspect that people are using accessories that MS didn't fully profit from. i highly doubt MS is comfortable with users bypassing retail accessory pricing.

[Pyrochaos]

But are they getting rid of the 120? or just converting all the Pro systems to 120 and eliminating the 60?

Cause it would seem the obvious choice considering their competition happens to have the same 120g/250g options.

[Godstar]

i don't see why MS couldn't ban drive serial numbers, as they are all unique.

I don't believe they have anyway of tracking hardware serial numbers without their being a way for the console to somehow query the ID of the HDD. Not even PC's do this, and at best it simply does the model number. Which is precisely why you have to use the same model they use.

The only case where they don't do this is MAC ID's of the wireless devices, and even then, it's not as if you make your own they are going to start banning MAC ID's that aren't registered to MS right?

[Godstar]

But are they getting rid of the 120? or just converting all the Pro systems to 120 and eliminating the 60?

Cause it would seem the obvious choice considering their competition happens to have the same 120g/250g options.

I think they're probably getting rid of the 20/60 and the 120 will be the new low end version.

[michealo]

I don't believe they have anyway of tracking hardware serial numbers without their being a way for the console to somehow query the ID of the HDD. Not even PC's do this, and at best it simply does the model number. Which is precisely why you have to use the same model they use.

The only case where they don't do this is MAC ID's of the wireless devices, and even then, it's not as if you make your own they are going to start banning MAC ID's that aren't registered to MS right?

a simple VBscript can retrieve the HDD serial. it would be trivial for MS to pull this data if they chose.

aye, they could ban non MS OEM wireless nics if they wanted to, in this manner of unique device id's.

[Godstar]

a simple VBscript can retrieve the HDD serial. it would be trivial for MS to pull this data if they chose.

aye, they could ban non MS OEM wireless nics if they wanted to, in this manner of unique device id's.

Well, I guess that answers that, they could, I just don't think they will. But I guess that's the risk you take in doing this.