Kinect (Natal), headed in the right direction. (Gaming scenarios interview)

[twonunpackmule]

Your avatar is hilarious

Where did you find your kinect for purchase? Did you get the last one?

Gamestop. And it was not the last one. I got the bundle - 250gb - because my old one died/e 74. Though, I've been seeing the units all over the place. Granted, no one is filled to the brim with them. But, if you are looking for one you will find it.

[tormond]

I am not surprised that the Toys R Us in Times Square has units (since that IS where the launce of the thing happened.. they expected 3000+ folks there to buy them so I can only imagine (the possibilities) that they were given a gigantic allotment of them. The Best Buy near my house has the bundles (5-10 of the 4GB and maybe 3-5 of the 250GB) but no sensor only (and havent had any since day of launch or at least not longer than a few hours according to the employees but they said they are getting a SMALL trickle of units in at the time..like 3-4 twice a week)

That being said the store where I routinely found PS3s during the Great shortage of 2010 (TM) had a gigantic stack of 4GB/250GB Kinect units (probably a pallet of each) but only 2 standalone sensors (well 1 now.. I needed another one for the living room 360) so I think they are in shortage in some places (smaller stores more rural locations) and the bigger stores/metropolitan areas seem to have decent stock (although the bundles are clearly more likely to be found)

I have had a blast with mine (and watching the kids play with it..which is why I bought the 2nd one) and it has worked pretty flawlessly for me. Only issue I have really found so far is that Dance Central keeps losing my daughter in the menus as she tends to turn sideways while swiping the menus and she is REALLY skinny (it is actually kinda funny).
The games have been pretty fun so far (although I admit that they are party games for the most part) but you still work up a sweat pretty quick (I played Kinect Sports for an hour or so yesterday (I returned 4 titles I bought at Best Buy on release day and reordered from Amazon when they were BOGO 1/2 off) and I am sore as all hell today (but I am a lazy SOB whose idea of working out is running to the car when it's raining).
So far I am happy with the purchase. Is it earth shattering? Nope not at all but I AM having fun with it and have gotten my wife playing a couple times (and she ABHORS video games) so in that way it is a huge success in my eyes. Would like to try the Video Kinect at some point if anyone here wants to give it a shot just for a few to check quality etc. My GT is in my sig and I think I have most of you on my friends list (well except maria.. she keeps dissing me). Just shoot me a message. I am gone for work the rest of the week but I will be home a few hours tomorrow night and then all weekend I will be on. Just shoot me a message as long as you don't laugh at the GIGANTIC mess in my theatre room (I just cleared out a apartment into that room)

PS that Carl Duty Avatar is friggin priceless.....

[Almril]

No; success is measured along various axes. One axis is launch sales. Another axis is long-term sales. Another axis is quality. This thread has been concerned with many things; sales was one of them but not the main thing.

Don't get petulant, now.

I know its not the main thing, it has just been my bone of contention in the Kinect debate, so I'm riding this petulant horse until it breaks down.

[Pyrochaos]

Yeah, because Uncharted, God of War, Tomb Raider are casual games - they're so terribly simplistic and meant for families.

Meanwhile, CoD:BLOPS is so incredibly complex and meant for core games, you can practically go through levels without pulling the trigger even once.

I think everyone here would agree that Uncharted, Tomb RAider, and GoW are action games with platforming elements. Not platformers. Ratchet and Clank, Sly cooper, ect are platformers.

[coldfoot]

I think everyone here would agree that Uncharted, Tomb RAider, and GoW are action games with platforming elements. Not platformers. Ratchet and Clank, Sly cooper, ect are platformers.

Ratchet and Clank is a hardcore game

[Pyrochaos]

Ratchet and Clank is a hardcore game

Everything is a hardcore game now. Because I am a hardcore gamer and I just played kinectimals. Thus making it a hardcore game instantly.

[RedRedSuit]

Platformers are casual? Are you serious? Jak 3 is casual?

[michealo]

I know its not the main thing, it has just been my bone of contention in the Kinect debate, so I'm riding this petulant horse until it breaks down.

there's not much there. kinect is selling better than what most people expected, myself included.
however, the thread was based off of expectations for "different gaming" and "new experiences" but then turned to "just have fun with it" after launch.

[chipvideo]

there's not much there. kinect is selling better than what most people expected, myself included.
however, the thread was based off of expectations for "different gaming" and "new experiences" but then turned to "just have fun with it" after launch.

I don't know of any other game systems avaible today that work well with your entire body like kinect sports does. I cant imagine strapping remotes on every limb of my body like the wii or the move would have to do to accomplish the same thing.

[half-sane]

I don't know of any other game systems avaible today that work well with your entire body like kinect sports does. I cant imagine strapping remotes on every limb of my body like the wii or the move would have to do to accomplish the same thing.

Even then, the Wii/Move wouldn't be able to catch your 3D spacial movement. It would just get your limbs flailing.

[Badger3920]

I don't know of any other game systems avaible today that work well with your entire body like kinect sports does. I cant imagine strapping remotes on every limb of my body like the wii or the move would have to do to accomplish the same thing.

Surely you realize that this response lacks relevance to what Michaelo said. The reason for this is because he talked about the hype mountain of claims for "different gaming" and "new experiences." You claimed "Kinect works well." Formulaic logic dictates that there is a missing link between what he said and your response. That response is ALSO very much what this thread is about: Does Kinect bring "different gaming" and "new experiences."

Unfortunately, perfect 3d tracking as an input method doesn't change the fact that you're still playing dance-in-your living room and sports games, and other Oprah-grade material.

[Pyrochaos]

Platformers are casual? Are you serious? Jak 3 is casual?

The Jak and Daxter series lost it's platforming roots as soon as they made part 2.

[TheAnalogKid]

Even then, the Wii/Move wouldn't be able to catch your 3D spacial movement. It would just get your limbs flailing.

Wrong.

Move does, in fact, capture 3d spatial movement and orientation.

[RedRedSuit]

The Jak and Daxter series lost it's platforming roots as soon as they made part 2.

Yeah whatever. They're platformers.

Most platformers are not casual games.

[Pyrochaos]

Yeah whatever. They're platformers.

Most platformers are not casual games.

So the moral of the story is, kinect is made for all gamers.