Infinity Ward releases COD4 online numbers.

[RedRedSuit]

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, that doesn't really make sense. You get exclusive DLC by paying for it, not because your online user base is larger. Once they complete dlc, it would only serve to provide them more profit by opening it up to over 3 million PS3 users as well.

True. It's better to have a pool of 14 million potential DLC downloaders than 10 million potential DLC downloaders.

The only reason why 360 would get exclusive DLC is if MS moneyhats the other developer. Or, at worst, if the other developer can make the 360 DLC faster, for whatever reason.

[KTA]

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, that doesn't really make sense. You get exclusive DLC by paying for it, not because your online user base is larger. Once they complete dlc, it would only serve to provide them more profit by opening it up to over 3 million PS3 users as well.

They have the option to do so on the 360 because MS is paying for it and they have the larger base to work with. It's very simple, having a gold membership costs money and people paying for online are more inclined to buy DLC as well.

I'd actually like to see DLC numbers, that'd be interesting.

It's like the ps2 / xbox last gen, sure they could make some decent cash going MP but the return is great enough on one platform as well so it's not a necessity.

[Shadow1019]

They have the option to do so on the 360 because MS is paying for it and they have the larger base to work with. It's very simple, having a gold membership costs money and people paying for online are more inclined to buy DLC as well.

Or are less able to buy.

[BAzylikHD]

Windows live?

yeah if a game requires windows live, cod4 doesn't.

[KTA]

yeah if a game requires windows live, cod4 doesn't.

I would still think a large portion of the community tracks its stats via COD4 online pages etc.

It must be a piss poor number for them not to talk about it.

[DustoMan]

Windows live?

CoD:WaW didn't use GFW-Live. It was just a GFW-branded game.

[DustoMan]

True. It's better to have a pool of 14 million potential DLC downloaders than 10 million potential DLC downloaders.

The only reason why 360 would get exclusive DLC is if MS moneyhats the other developer. Or, at worst, if the other developer can make the 360 DLC faster, for whatever reason.

Well I guess IW wasn't even going to make any DLC for COD4 in the first place. They were perfectly happy with the 16 maps that shipped with the game. If I were IW, I'd ask for a butt-load of money too if I was going to commit resources to something I was planning on doing.

[Badger3920]

I'd think 14 million players, playing their game online, would be incentive enough to put in the minimal effort it takes to release a map pack and have it instantly available for sale to that group.

Now companies moneyhatting some dlc is an entirely different discussion

[RedRedSuit]

Well I guess IW wasn't even going to make any DLC for COD4 in the first place. They were perfectly happy with the 16 maps that shipped with the game. If I were IW, I'd ask for a butt-load of money too if I was going to commit resources to something I was planning on doing.

Errr... the DLC costs money. It's $10. The more money you can milk from your game's MP component, the better. So, of COURSE, they *were* planning on DLC, as nearly every online shooter does these days.

It was only a matter of MS moneyhatting them to keep that content off PS3 (temporarily, I might add, as it *was* soon released for it).

[DustoMan]

Errr... the DLC costs money. It's $10. The more money you can milk from your game's MP component, the better. So, of COURSE, they *were* planning on DLC, as nearly every online shooter does these days.

It was only a matter of MS moneyhatting them to keep that content off PS3 (temporarily, I might add, as it *was* soon released for it).

Hey, I'm just telling ya what FourZeroTwo said:

For Call of Duty 4, we focused on including as many maps as we could out of box, and had 16 from DAY 1 (adding four more later for a total 20 Maps total).

Personally, I prefer to give the community as much as possible out of the box instead of making them wait and pay extra for them later. However, whenever possible (like with COD2) we continue to make maps if our development process allows for it.

http://gamerlimit.com/2008/12/why-in...lc-for-cod4mw/

[DustoMan]

I'd think 14 million players, playing their game online, would be incentive enough to put in the minimal effort it takes to release a map pack and have it instantly available for sale to that group.

Yes, because maps make themselves.

[Badger3920]

Yes, because maps make themselves.

That statement means nothing.

Are you implying that the little 3 map pack they released took any kind of massive effort?

It would be interesting to see what the costs vs returns were on those packs. Based upon your response, it would probably blow your mind.

[james]

It was only a matter of MS moneyhatting them to keep that content off PS3 (temporarily, I might add, as it *was* soon released for it).

If MS "Moneyhatted" them, a claim you seem to love to throw out with no proof, I doubt it would have made it to the PSN so quickly. I’d say it’s more likely the 360 received higher priority due to its larger install base, or it was just an easier platform to develop for and thus received the content sooner.

[RedRedSuit]

Hey, I'm just telling ya what FourZeroTwo said:

Including as much as possible out of the box does not imply you're not going to develop and release even more afterwards. In your own quote he says: "However, whenever possible (like with COD2) we continue to make maps if our development process allows for it." So, yes, just like I said:

They like to make post-game DLC because they can sell it for $10 and make tons of money. Putting out DLC is not a favor they're extending to MS or Sony; it's something that makes them money.

[RedRedSuit]

If MS "Moneyhatted" them, a claim you seem to love to throw out with no proof, I doubt it would have made it to the PSN so quickly. I’d say it’s more likely the 360 received higher priority due to its larger install base, or it was just an easier platform to develop for and thus received the content sooner.

...which is exactly why I said many posts ago:

Or, at worst, if the other developer can make the 360 DLC faster, for whatever reason.

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