No Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD for PS3 owners

[Aodh]

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/05/08...or-ps3-owners/

When the PS3 hit the street it was recognized as one of the most full featured Blu-ray players to date, but it seem now that PS3 owners aren't getting everything they though they were. It has recently been uncovered that although the PS3 does have a HDMI 1.3 port it, does not support bit stream audio. What this means for Blu-ray fans is that when they finally pick up one of those new Onkyo receivers with HDMI 1.3, that they still can't enjoy Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD because there is no way to get the bits out of the PS3. Of course the DTS track can still be down mixed and PCM audio is supported, but so much for being the most capable Blu-ray player available.

I'm sorry, but I find this fucking hilarious. After all the bashing about the elite and HDMI 1.2, it turns out that the PS3s HDMI 1.3 isn't capable of advanced audio transportation. Maybe this is the real reason for all the PCM tracks instead of lossless codecs, or for Fox's change in strategy after releasing most of their discs with DTS-MA, the PS3 just isn't capable of transporting the audio streams.

[Vidfreek]

OMG, thats really the funniest thing I've heard since all this has started, well too bad for all those PS3 owners that want the best sound possible

Now I'm even more glad I havent bought into Bluray yet, too many features and missing technology to warrant a purchase right now

[miDnIghtEr]

but...but....but..... OUR CONSOLE HELPS FIND A CURE FOR CANCER!!!! can you xbots say that??? is what i would say if i was bbm, or blumoon, or godstar or, "insert name here"

i should put a sig in my thread now about what sytems i have, and then put down "The video:
360 + PS3 (not getting it now since it can't PLAY Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD bleh!)"

[Bruuce]

If I understand correctly, the PS3 will decode the Dolby true HD signal to PCM and the reciever will get the PCM signal. It won't read Dolby True HD on the reciever but you will still get lossless audio.

[FourToedStatue]

If I understand correctly, the PS3 will decode the Dolby true HD signal to PCM and the reciever will get the PCM signal. It won't read Dolby True HD on the reciever but you will still get lossless audio.

This is true. Whoever wrote the article did not do their research. But the orgasmic glee some of the hd dvd guys are getting out of this is really sad.

[LembasBread]

well too bad for all those PS3 owners that want the best sound possible

Fortunately for PS3 owners, only about 10% (maybe less) of BD's actually have a DTS-HD MA track. That means that they are actually able to hear "the best sound possible" as about 75% of BD's contain PCM tracks or the rare TrueHD tracks which are able to be decoded and output from the console. The other 15% or so are the "neutral" or few Lionsgate titles that only have the standard DD or DTS tracks.

FYI and those who continue to condemn BD as an under-developed technology, PS3's are just as capable of decoding next gen audio as most standalone HD DVD players because they also neither decode nor do I believe output DTS-HD MA bitstream and the PS3 still delivers a beat-down to the 360 add-on even with the new Elite console.

[Aodh]

This is true. Whoever wrote the article did not do their research. But the orgasmic glee some of the hd dvd guys are getting out of this is really sad.

No, they did and are aware. But that doesn't change the the best Blu-ray player isn't capable of bit streaming audio. Most of the arguments surrounding the PS3 and audio were that it had a HDMI 1.3 port while HD DVD players 'only' had 1.2, but it seems that's all the PS3 would really need as well.

[ckelly79]

This confuses me. In the options I have a choice to choose HDMI audio via bitstream or PCM and Optical audio bitstream or PCM, so why do you say it can't do bitstream?

[glocks out]

What is that picture supposed to show? It doesn't prove anything.

Also note they edited the article:

** Dolby TrueHD can still be decoded inside the PS3 and sent as uncompressed audio to the AV receiver, but if the AV receiver has an integrated decoder it can't be used instead of the PS3's decoder. **

Also also note: No HD DVD or Blu-ray player to date outputs bitstream over HDMI.

[ckelly79]

Ok...here's a pic. It lets me choose bitstream over HDMI, so why do you say it doesn't output bitstream over HDMI?

(sorry, had to take the pic with my phone, wife has the digital camera)

[Aodh]

Does it work? Then does it work for advanced codecs? This is buzzing all over boards and no one seems to be saying it can, despite having the feature.

[Bruuce]

I think the PS3 cannot pass through the Dolby True HD signal. It has to decode the signal itself.

[Blumoon]

lmao - the PS3 decodes truehd and outputs as PCM and/or use bitstream over hdmi.

lmao - too funny - get it right next time xbots...

[Blumoon]

Does it work? Then does it work for advanced codecs? This is buzzing all over boards and no one seems to be saying it can, despite having the feature.

Yes it works. It just passes the signal over the HDMI. I do not have a DTS MA reciever, so I cant verify that exact one, but it does all the others over bitstream - test DD, DD+, DTS, and PCM.

[ckelly79]

Does it work? Then does it work for advanced codecs? This is buzzing all over boards and no one seems to be saying it can, despite having the feature.

It works fine for the normal codecs, but I don't have any way to test advanced codecs because my reciever does not decode any. In the same way, you have no way to test and see if it doesn't.

I leave my ps3 on PCM anyway and let the PS3 decode everything. We already know it can decode Dolby TrueHD but not DTS HD MA. Do you have an explanation as to why it wouldn't be able to send DTS HD MA bitstream over HDMI?

edit: I don't know if this means anything, but I tested it with Kingdom of Heaven which on has one audio codec on the disc....DTS HD MA. It played the DTS core 1.5 Mbps perfectly fine. So does that mean the PS3 sent the whole DTS HD MA codec to my reciever and my reciever extracted the core? That is what it leads me to believe.