AIAS' Olin: Blu-ray Not Long-Term Advantage For PS3

[WallyWest]

no, but one I don't pay for tv shows and two going to movies and watching a movie on a huge screen beats watching a blu-ray. so I don't get your point. he was talking about streaming hd movies in the house and I have to pay for it.

So you don't have cable or satellite TV?

You don't watch regular DVDs anymore? You tossed every DVD you had because they aren't BD quality?

My point is, that saying if something isn't BD quality you won't watch it is a goofy argument.

[Badger3920]

You're right. Blu-ray isn't a long term advantage for the PS3, because Xbox 3, or 4, or 5 might have digital downloads or "games streaming".

It's pretty clear from today's reality, that cd's were not a long term advantage for the PS1 because PS3 has blu-ray.


Pretty silly way of twisting data around to form arguments.

[ivan872007]

So you don't have cable or satellite TV?

You don't watch regular DVDs anymore? You tossed every DVD you had because they aren't BD quality?

My point is, that saying if something isn't BD quality you won't watch it is a goofy argument.

uh no, see I know those things are not hd. people on here even call it hdlite. why would I pay for something that is not what its advertised as?

[Badger3920]

So you don't have cable or satellite TV?

You don't watch regular DVDs anymore? You tossed every DVD you had because they aren't BD quality?

My point is, that saying if something isn't BD quality you won't watch it is a goofy argument.

From my understanding, he wasn't. He was agreeing (with Michaelo) that you're watching hd-lite, which is subpar to blu-ray and therefore blu-ray maintains the advantage.

He's right.

[Ergo-Proxy]

Very good points in the article, but digital distribution still has some issues which I think it will take some time until they are resolved completely and offer fully the same benefits of a tangible format

[ivan872007]

Very good points in the article, but digital distribution still has some issues which I think it will take some time until they are resolved completely and offer fully the same benefits of a tangible format

even if everything is sorted out (technology wise) they still have to win over the masses.

[Badger3920]

even if everything is sorted out (technology wise) they still have to win over the masses.

It depends. If PS5 and the 3rd 360 simply come without physical games - then I guess the gamers just went digital as they have little choice.

I'm surprised that many people argue for DD though. It's not great for consumers. Say goodbye to inexpensive used games, or reselling your own games.

All games will be bought new, and cannot be resold.

[Sarang]

Digital Distribution is a TERRIBLE thing, when will people get it through their HEADS?! No Lossless, no 1080p. Your game choices are made for you, no more imports. Whose right is it to decide what you want to play or watch?! NO ONE'S, not the right's holders here, not the one's overseas.

[ivan872007]

It depends. If PS5 and the 3rd 360 simply come without physical games - then I guess the gamers just went digital as they have little choice.

I'm surprised that many people argue for DD though. It's not great for consumers. Say goodbye to inexpensive used games, or reselling your own games.

All games will be bought new, and cannot be resold.

yes, I will hate to see the day that physcial media dies out. but I am happy because i am almost 100 percent sure I will not see it in my lifetime.

[Gunter]

The PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, for one thing, have reached graphical parity, on multiplatform titles, while software exclusivity, formerly a great differentiator, is becoming more and more rare on the 360.

Corrected it for you. As of course, with all the studios that Sony own, there are a huge number of studios producign PS3 titles, whilst only a couple producing 360 exclusives (and most of them on PC anyway).

Digital Distribution is a TERRIBLE thing, when will people get it through their HEADS?! No Lossless, no 1080p. Your game choices are made for you, no more imports. Whose right is it to decide what you want to play or watch?! NO ONE'S, not the right's holders here, not the one's overseas.

??Sounds like you are assuming all PSN is like XBL. Funny, because I have digital titles that are 1080p, at least one of them has lossles audio, and guess what I can download from any regional PSN store...

[Sarang]

For now Gunter. You think it won't get bigger and something won't happen?

I did forget the most important thing. I don't think DD can happen just because I think retailers like EBGames and others won't allow it. If they don't get a cut in the games being sold, why would they sell the systems, which make them terribly little already.

[ivan872007]

For now Gunter. You think it won't get bigger and something won't happen?

I did forget the most important thing. I don't think DD can happen just because I think retailers like EBGames and others won't allow it. If they don't get a cut in the games being sold, why would they sell the systems, which make them terribly little already.

ah yes great point that has been said before, but needs to be said again.

[Gunter]

For now Gunter. You think it won't get bigger and something won't happen?

I did forget the most important thing. I don't think DD can happen just because I think retailers like EBGames and others won't allow it. If they don't get a cut in the games being sold, why would they sell the systems, which make them terribly little already.

I assume you work for Gamestop then... Most people think DD is a great thing. I can understand those that trade games, but I buy games and keep them. The cheaper price, and convinence of not changing discs to play far outweighs the few $$ trade-in price.

Since when has EB and Gamestop told Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft what they can and can't do? Online distribution will kill game stores, like it's already killed music stores and killing video rental stores. It's called progress.

You backed HD DVD, whilst it was clear from the outset it was a doomed format. I think you are backing another lame horse again here, in the fight against DD.

[maley]

Wise sentiments. I completely agree.

Discuss.

Xbox 720 will ship w/ Blu-ray

[Gbeav]

Heh, lets talk about the year 2020.