Nintendo:49%, MS:49% and that leaves Sony:2%.... BS! Microsoft spin?

[Reverend Blu]

Nintendo says:

The brief statement mentioned the hardware sales figures for DS and Wii, noting a 49 per cent market share for Wii in terms of living-room consoles



Microsoft says:

Xbox 360 in the US, giving the platform a 49 per cent market share.



Source:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...osoft-reaction



Oh man lets do some news examination to get some interesting tidbits.



Hey folks its time for some questions:

If according to Microsoft and Nintendo PR they each have a "49% market share" then that leaves just 2% market share for Sony.

So please tell us MR. MS executive how did a competitor with only a "2%" market share beat you in Julys NPD numbers?

And what "funny" tobaco was MS consuming at the time of calculating and pondering these numbers?


And lets see what else I can uncover in these statements.

[Onslaught X]

I believe they're referring to two different statistics. MS' statistic includes software and hardware, while Nintendo is referring to hardware only.

[Reverend Blu]

Originally Posted by Onslaught X

I believe they're referring to two different statistics. MS' statistic includes software and hardware, while Nintendo is referring to hardware only.

Xbox 360 titles accounted for USD 129 million - 34 per cent share - in software sales for July.

[Onslaught X]

You misunderstand me. What MS is saying, is that since launch in the US, revenue which includes both hardware and software, belongs to Microsoft with a 49% marketshare. While Nintendo is saying that 49% of all console owners in the US, are Wii owners.

[Reverend Blu]

Originally Posted by Onslaught X

You misunderstand me. What MS is saying, is that since launch in the US, revenue which includes both hardware and software, belongs to Microsoft with a 49% marketshare. While Nintendo is saying that 49% of all console owners in the US, are Wii owners.

Does this say software in anypart of this sentence?

# Microsoft's reaction began by hailing a strong E3 showing, and noting a profitable year with USD 2.1 billion "in growth" for the Entertainment and Devices Division.
# Since launch consumers have spent over USD 10.4 billion on the Xbox 360 in the US, giving the platform a 49 per cent market share.








Platform A.K.A. hardware or that box sold by Microsoft thats called a 360.
Did it say software or games in any part of that sentence?

[Onslaught X]

Originally Posted by Reverend Blu

Does this say software in anypart of this sentence?

# Microsoft's reaction began by hailing a strong E3 showing, and noting a profitable year with USD 2.1 billion "in growth" for the Entertainment and Devices Division.
# Since launch consumers have spent over USD 10.4 billion on the Xbox 360 in the US, giving the platform a 49 per cent market share.








Platform A.K.A. hardware or that box sold by Microsoft thats called a 360.
Did it say software or games in any part of that sentence?

I figured it was possible that Microsoft may have been referring to all 360 related products, meaning software, hardware, and accessories. But I think I got it now. Since the 360 launched at 400 dollars, while the Wii launched at 250 dollars, that really inflates revenue in favor of the 360, which I'm guessing gives it the edge regarding the 49% revenue marketshare, in terms of hardware. Remember, the Wii is ahead by less than a million.

[Onslaught X]

Actually I take that back, that number wouldn't add up if it was pure hardware. It must include software, because if you took the hardware number and multiply it by 400, it would be around 4 billion or so. So it has to include software and accessories to add up. Or they could be lying. But they must be referring to 360 related products, meaning hardware, software, and accessories

[Reverend Blu]

Thats what I am talking about.

If you take the Nintendo PR statement by itself it sounds hunkydoory since its just 49 percent hardware sales.

If you just look at the Microsoft statement it sounds coopacetic with 49 percent of hardware sales.

But things breakdown if you look at Wii hardware at 49 percent and then on the same page you read Xbox 360 hardware 49 percent

That leaves two percent hardware sales for the PS3 from Sony?

Two percent for a platform thats in second place for the July NPD numbers?

Two percent for a platform thats outselling a platform that tells us via PR speak that its "49 percent" and still lost July?

It does not compute.

[bomba]

Its the X360 *revenue* of 10.8B is 49% of all spending on consoles since launch according to MS.

Could be true, but its certainly dropping fast just as PS3 slowly rises and Wii streaks ahead.

[Onslaught X]

Originally Posted by Reverend Blu

Thats what I am talking about.

If you take the Nintendo PR statement by itself it sounds hunkydoory since its just 49 percent hardware sales.

If you just look at the Microsoft statement it sounds coopacetic with 49 percent of hardware sales.

But things breakdown if you look at Wii hardware at 49 percent and then on the same page you read Xbox 360 hardware 49 percent

That leaves two percent hardware sales for the PS3 from Sony?

Two percent for a platform thats in second place for the July NPD numbers?

Two percent for a platform thats outselling a platform that tells us via PR speak that its "49 percent" and still lost July?

It does not compute.

Revenue does not equal amount of consoles. Point #1. Nintendo is talking about amount of consoles in homes, MS is talking about money spent on consoles. There is a big difference. Obviously, Microsoft is also talking about the 360 in general, not just the hardware. Software, accessories, hardware. Everything, which is 10.8 billion dollars. Obviously, since the 360 sells the most software, this would cause them to have 49% marketshare in addition to selling almost as much units as the Wii, at a much higher price, again, inflating revenue. Is it spin? Yes, but it's probably true.

I'd also like to note that there's no way the Wii actually has 49% marketshare since inception. Nintendo is saying that 49% of all living room consoles sold in July were the Wii. Games Industry kind of made the meaning fuzzy. But since the 360 is at 10 million consoles and the Wii is somewhere at 11 million according to the NPD from launch to date, there's no way the Wii has 49% marketshare with the PS3 at some 5 million. So Nintendo's 49% figure is for the month.

Now does this all make sense now, or no?

[Reverend Blu]

Originally Posted by Onslaught X

Revenue does not equal amount of consoles. Point #1. Nintendo is talking about amount of consoles in homes, MS is talking about money spent on consoles. There is a big difference. Obviously, Microsoft is also talking about the 360 in general, not just the hardware. Software, accessories, hardware. Everything, which is 10.8 billion dollars. Obviously, since the 360 sells the most software, this would cause them to have 49% marketshare in addition to selling almost as much units as the Wii, at a much higher price, again, inflating revenue. Is it spin? Yes, but it's probably true.

I'd also like to note that there's no way the Wii actually has 49% marketshare since inception. Nintendo is saying that 49% of all living room consoles sold in July were the Wii. Games Industry kind of made the meaning fuzzy. But since the 360 is at 10 million consoles and the Wii is somewhere at 11 million according to the NPD from launch to date, there's no way the Wii has 49% marketshare with the PS3 at some 5 million. So Nintendo's 49% figure is for the month.

Now does this all make sense now, or no?

Nope.

Since spending for the wii plus spending for the ps3 combined exceeds 10.8 billion dollars making MS out to be lying about that 49 percent be it hardware or software.

[Kenshiro]

Its best if we just ignore these BS PR statements, all they do is spin.

[Onslaught X]

Originally Posted by Reverend Blu

Nope.

Since spending for the wii plus spending for the ps3 combined exceeds 10.8 billion dollars making MS out to be lying about that 49 percent be it hardware or software.

Well if you could find the number, then post it. The number of revenue from PS3/Wii hardware combined would hover around the 5 billion mark. (Taking the existing amount of hardware times an average price). Obviously we know software is heavily in favor of MS' side, I don't know if it inflates the number that big, plus accessories but it's possible. MS does have some pretty expensive accessories too.

[michealo]

Originally Posted by Kenshiro

Its best if we just ignore these BS PR statements, all they do is spin.

and make signatures longer.

[itputdalotion0n]

why are you getting all bent outa shape over a stupid pr statement that affects you in no such way other then your ego. Give it a rest PRs job is to make statements to make their company look good.

If you freak out over stuff like this I would hate to see someone kick your puppy.