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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeless View Post
    Let's just get this first bit out of the way, straight from Destructoid:

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    Now for the relevant bit. Julian Eggebrecht, Creative Director of Factor 5, made a pretty stunning remark, at least to me. In attempting to rationalize the low review scores for Lair, he claimed that the control system was more in line for casual gamers. And I quote:



    Excuse me... freakin' WHAT?!

    Man oh man... Y'know what, I'm not even going to TOUCH that one. Let the discussion begin.
    Lair may have gotten poor reviews. but it will prolly still sell a decent amount worldwide, look at transformers it was #1 on the UK top ten for like 2 months... Shitty games still sell..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillysports8982 View Post
    Lair may have gotten poor reviews. but it will prolly still sell a decent amount worldwide, look at transformers it was #1 on the UK top ten for like 2 months... Shitty games still sell..lol
    Shitty game that had a ton of People wanting to play it because of an Excellent movie.

    I don't see a correlation. Although fanboy's hyped lair for over a year, it failed and doesn't have a blockbuster film to make kids want to play it. Or over grown geeks like us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kickingtotalass View Post
    Shitty game that had a ton of People wanting to play it because of an Excellent movie.

    I don't see a correlation. Although fanboy's hyped lair for over a year, it failed and doesn't have a blockbuster film to make kids want to play it. Or over grown geeks like us.
    i see your point, thats true, i still think lair will sell, reviews mean shit when it comes to entertainment, lets be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    How many different things are the motion controls in Metroid Prime 3 responsible for? Probably the less interaction the reviewers have with motion controls the higher the review score. Just a theory.

    *puts on flame proof suit* Fire away.
    Well, clearly, the Wiimote is used in a similar fashion to a mouse in a traditional FPS--it controls your perspective/turning. It is also used to push/pull/twist levers (which is surprisingly satisfying). The nunchuck's analog stick is used for forward, backward, and side-to-side movement, while the nunchuck's motion control is used for items like the grapple beam and lasso (i.e., yanking shields off of enemies, etc.).

    So, a heck of a lot of interaction, and it works flawlessly. I know you have a lot of eggs in the "make-fun-of-Wii" basket, but you're not going to find anything to mock about MP3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRedSuit View Post
    That's exactly the kind of talk that turns me off Wii. I don't give a shit if it's for "casual" gamers or what -- if the controls aren't precise, I'm not playing it.
    So you only play FPS games on a PC with a keyboard and a mouse then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    Did you get a chance to rent and play Lair, yet? I thought I read you were going to rent this one.
    Absolutely not. Evidently, the game sucks. I am staying away, until there is a demo, perhaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraMajor View Post
    So you only play FPS games on a PC with a keyboard and a mouse then?
    Actually, that's correct. The only exception is when an FPS is console-exclusive, like Halo. In that case, the normal controller is still fairly precise: you can predict what's going to happen. Wii controls tend to be so sloppy.
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    I've never liked playing FPS on consoles, aside from Halo and maybe Fall of Man. The game pad just isn't good enough for controls. Give me a mouse and a keyboard any day.

    It's strange that console games don't offer that ability because you can get a mouse and a keyboard for both the PS3 and the Xbox. They would probably sell more of them if they would offer that chance.
    The Wii controls work better because the joystick is in two parts, which makes all the difference.
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    Christ, how long are people going to continue to rant on and on about Lair/Bioshock. Who cares already....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godstar View Post
    Christ, how long are people going to continue to rant on and on about Lair/Bioshock. Who cares already....
    I care about the AAA game called Bioshock. You care about...well, you really have nothing on the PS3 to care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotatsu Neko View Post
    Maybe you should, you know, actually PLAY the game first?
    PS3 owners play games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakman3000 View Post
    I care about the AAA game called Bioshock. You care about...well, you really have nothing on the PS3 to care about.
    Maybe if I was as simple minded as you I would think that, fortunatley I'm not and have plenty of AAA games to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godstar View Post
    Maybe if I was as simple minded as you I would think that, fortunatley I'm not and have plenty of AAA games to play.
    Read my post again and then name the AAA games from your plethora of PS3 titles. I'll wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakman3000 View Post
    Read my post again and then name the AAA games from your plethora of PS3 titles. I'll wait.
    Let's see, Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk, and about every platinum title from PS2. I have plenty of games thanks.
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    I don't see a single AAA title in that list. Some good software, but not AAA and for PS2 games the smart choice is still proving to be buying... you know... a PS2.
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