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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    That sounds like a paid statement to me. What credible reviewer would make a statement like that?

    I have Lair and so far it is pretty good! The motion controls ARE spot-on. The tutorials are very helpful in teaching you how to control the dragon and perform attacks. I don't understand where these "bad controls" statements are coming from. One would have to not understand what they are showing you to get this wrong. An elementary school certificate is all you need to control this game properly.
    Greg's cool he's no MS shill. The game is visually stunning but its a bitch to control. I played for only two hours last night. I kept flailing my cotroller around like a wii-mote when it's actually supposed to work like flow where you tilt your hands not your arms. I'm enjoying it so far but then again I haven't got to the toro part yet.
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    Some of my absolute favorite games have terrible ratings/reviews. I'm taking a chance on Lair and picking it up, mainly because I like the variety I'll have in my collection thus far.
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    I'm gonna rent it first.... If a downloadable demo isn't out soon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceghost4284 View Post
    i am astonished by these reviews. surely one bad review isnt a big deal but when nearly every reputable videogame site trashes the game, what they are saying is probably true. i plan on buying the game from gamestop and exploiting there 7 day return policy. i'll say it sucks big time and then preorder heavenly sword for the week after. i'm just wondering if i should bother doing this and cutting into my warhawk time???
    Read your recipt better jerk. I hate when people like you come into my store. 7 days on all unopened merchandise. However chances are if you mention that you wanna pre order something first and then say ohh yeah I wanna return this also. Then they will probably let you do it since you're doing them a favor too. Our bonus's are based on reservations and subscripts sold.

    Quote Originally Posted by kickingtotalass View Post
    You know whats funny is, this game isn't even supposed to be on sale yet. But EB broke the street date and no one even seems to care.
    The Sony rep visited every store in our district and has told us we can sell the game whenever we got it in due to a special deal between Sony and Gamestop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    That sounds like a paid statement to me. What credible reviewer would make a statement like that?
    Oh, come off it, already. He hated the game. So did multiple other reviewers. It's over. It's a new franchise -- it happens.
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    what was the special deal? please buy this game, and free HJ's for everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miDnIghtEr View Post
    what was the special deal? please buy this game, and free HJ's for everyone?
    Ionno i'm just a assistant manager at a store. I just do what i'm told. My guess is Sony wanted to try to use the early sales to hype the game and sell more copies after getting such shit reviews.
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    what was the special deal? please buy this game, and free HJ's for everyone?
    I'm in, shitty game or not!!

    oh wait...is it from Sony? Can you catch DRM while getting an HJ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    Well, I think the Sony Tribune just gave it an 11 out of 10!

    We should probably wait to see what PS3rulz.com says though before jumping to conclusions.
    ...those magazine titles sound just a tad bit biased to me...
    i dont know...maybe its just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1080p View Post
    ...those magazine titles sound just a tad bit biased to me...
    i dont know...maybe its just me.
    Don't forget sonydefenseforce.com....

    They gave Bioshock a 5 out of 10. Thank goodness they helped me stay away from that pile of crap.
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    the PS3 has been so damn disappointing for everyone this gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djclueless View Post
    why does it seem like everytime a ps3 game gets bad reviews, the reviewer is always paid my microsoft. why cant a game be just bad because its bad.heavenly sword seems to be the better choice between lair and hs.
    Well, because I have actually PLAYED it. Just about everyone that has played this title now says Lair is GREAT (not including reviewers)!

    That tells me there is something a miss. IGN gave the graphics a 7.5?! That should automatically tell you something right there! The same people that said the graphics were incredible are now saying they are so so? Sound is a 8?! Please! 7.1 UNCOMPRESSED PCM symphonic sound gets a 8?! To even acknowledge that as being accurate after their previous words (graphics and sound quality doesn't go DOWN over time), is to say you can't put clues together.

    Just ask SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY OWNS THE GAME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    Well, because I have actually PLAYED it. Just about everyone that has played this title now says Lair is GREAT (not including reviewers)!

    That tells me there is something a miss. IGN gave the graphics a 7.5?! That should automatically tell you something right there!
    Fly your dragon really close to an object. A mountain, castle, the ground, anything. Tell me with 100% honesty those textures look impressive. While the game at a distance is impressive, like many games, up close it looks patchy and a mess.

    What would you give the graphics of Lair? Futhermore, do me a quick favor and rate Warhawk and Heavenly Sword, just so I see where your standards match up. Because there are a lot of people who say Warhawk looks better than Lair, because the art style is consistant, lacks blurry textures, and maintains a fantastic fps. And of course, HS looks the best out of the 3. So is it that unreasonable to see Lair with the lowest score out of the 3?

    You know what? I say we all hop on the WellInformed bandwagon, turn it around, and call anyone who thinks the game IS great a paid viral marketing shill. WellInformed, you have been exposed! Hop on the bandwagon, everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRedSuit View Post
    Oh, come off it, already. He hated the game. So did multiple other reviewers. It's over. It's a new franchise -- it happens.
    You are usually a fair person. You try to go by a large number of reviews, but sometimes that can bite you in the ass. When you ASSume that reviewers can't be wrong for whatever reason, that means you basically gave up on thinking for one's self. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to attack you here. Everyone ASSumes things, at times, that doesn't end up being true. This just seems to be your time.

    The FACT is that A LOT of people that own and play this game say that it is GREAT! That's all that really counts, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    You are usually a fair person. You try to go by a large number of reviews, but sometimes that can bite you in the ass.
    Why? Were they all paid off? There are really only three ways to judge a game. 1 -- Read a bunch of reviews, and get the general picture from that. 2 -- Play the demo. 3 -- Play the game. 3 is right out; I'm not spending money on something without having some assurance it'll be good. 2 is the best way, but there is no demo, yet. Therefore, 1 is the only option. If a demo comes out, I can use that to form my own opinion.

    When you ASSume that reviewers can't be wrong for whatever reason, that means you basically gave up on thinking for one's self. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to attack you here. Everyone ASSumes things, at times, that doesn't end up being true. This just seems to be your time.
    I appreciate you trying to be charitable, here, but, frankly, I don't understand what the problem is. A bunch of professional reviewers played the game. Most of them hated it. That's pretty much the end of that story until a demo comes out.

    The FACT is that A LOT of people that own and play this game say that it is GREAT! That's all that really counts, right?
    Actually, no. I don't really trust the opinions of most people that bought the game day of release. They tend to be the ones that try their hardest to justify their purchase/pre-order/whatever. No, I'm not absolutely 100% stating that's what you're doing, but you really can't trust day-of-release opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    The FACT is that A LOT of people that own and play this game say that it is GREAT! That's all that really counts, right?
    First off, this game would have done better if it wasn't put on a pedistal and marked as premium next gen gaming. Which it obviously isn't. Thats not to say the game cannot be enjoyed, but when a mechanic like control is broken in a supposedly AAA title you will have them bringing down the hammer.

    Most the people who buy a game the first day will like it no matter what. Hell i even found a way to like two worlds and I wouldn't reccommend that to anyone.

    Blue Dragon is good but I can see why they didn't like the first disc. The pacing is off at first. I'd give it an 8 so far. But to trust the opinions of others on a game like lair is stupid. 90% of the players week 1 are fanboys (that goes both ways) so of course they'll forgive anything, or just won't acknowledge problems.

    The games broken. IGN doesn't give shitty ratings to excellent games. Heavinly does look the best out of the 3. I'll probably get warhawk sometime next month when I have time. This month i'm booked. But i'm glad to see warhawk doing well after its first reviews coming in were lackluster.
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