ITC Rules the Xbox 360 violates Motorola patents

[CorruptedDragon]

Of course. What else would they be using? Android is shit and should never be used.

Android rocks. Love being able to root it and run whatever I want on it.

[Almril]

Hey i called it. Embrace the coming apple monopoly.

[Indy_aka_Rex]

So if I'm following this right, the South Korean court awarded some damages to Samsung and the American court ruled in favor of Apple, while the UK court threw out both claims. It seems that courts are flying their national flags proudly.

No. Apple sued Samsung in South Korea over the same patent BS, and the South Korean court awarded damages EQUALLY to both parties after Samsung brought its own patents against Apple; neither side really won, in that case. Both parties had a good chunk of their products (currently sold and otherwise) banned in SK. The only instance where there's blatant nationalism is in the US case.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...12082510525390

Between Koh's bias, and the apparently rigged, nationalistic jury... It's kind of hard to call it a victory for Apple.

[chipvideo]

That gif is priceless!!!

[MA16v3]

And now it's time to sit down and see where things go.

[Averry]

No. Apple sued Samsung in South Korea over the same patent BS, and the South Korean court awarded damages EQUALLY to both parties after Samsung brought its own patents against Apple; neither side really won, in that case. Both parties had a good chunk of their products (currently sold and otherwise) banned in SK. The only instance where there's blatant nationalism is in the US case.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...12082510525390

Between Koh's bias, and the apparently rigged, nationalistic jury... It's kind of hard to call it a victory for Apple.

I never saw anything that clearly showed that the Judge had a bias. How did you come to that conclusion?

I think that Samsung did go to close to the sun on this one. I think if they had taken Android, and left it closer to stock, and not tried to make a phone that looked so much like the 3GS they wouldn't be in this situation at all.....Then they could have still built themselves up to the point where they are at now with the GS3.

Either way....the patent system I believe is most flawed in the way that it can eventually end up in front of a jury of our peers left to decide such technical problems and set industry standards.

It's tough for me, because I think the jury system is appropriate for our legal system, but when it comes to solving Frand patent engineering issues it's stupid.

The fact that its so easy to get a patent, and then ends up in front of people like your mom being asked to solve these issues is really really bad.

[Bane]

The All-Judge: "This will be a bountiful console harvest."

Motorola's bid to ban Xbox 360 sales in the US due to a patent dispute has failed, after a judge ruled that the the patents in question were critical to industry standards. Federal Judge James Robart found that Motorola's patents must offer fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory licenses. Because of that, he ruled that a console ban could not be imposed.

The BBC (via Gamasutra) reports that the ruling came as a result of Motorola claims that Microsoft should be forced to pay up to $4 billion per year for its use of a video coding format. Microsoft, in response, has argued that it should only have to pay $1 million. Robart also indicated that whatever outstanding debts are owed to Motorola can be added to the bill at the end of the trial.

Motorola had previously won its patent dispute, and the threat of a ban was a sizable bargaining chip in the companies' negotiations over licensing fees. After an International Trade Commission judge recommended a ban, various tech companies backed Microsoft in the dispute. Microsoft subsequently rejected Motorola's settlement offer of a 2.25% royalty on every Xbox 360 sold.

The case now turns to licensing fees. Microsoft isn't arguing that a fee isn't owed, so all that remains is for an amount to be determined. Whatever the result, at least you'll still be able to find Xbox 360s in stores for the foreseeable future.

Shacknews

[CorruptedDragon]

Update-

Judge clears Microsoft, no patent violation.

http://www.zdnet.com/judge-clears-mi...le-7000013024/

Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox video-gaming system doesn’t violate the patent rights of Google Inc. (GOOG)’s Motorola Mobility unit, a U.S. trade judge said.

In a one-paragraph notice yesterday, U.S. International Trade Commission Judge David Shaw sided with Microsoft in the case. His findings are subject to review by the six-member commission, which has the power to block imports of products that infringe U.S. patents.

The judge’s findings relate to a patent for a way to establish communication between the Xbox and accessories. It’s all that’s left of a case that originally involved five patents, including two on widely used technology for video decoding, and led to accusations by Microsoft and regulators that Motorola Mobility was misusing patents to thwart competition.

“We are pleased with the Administrative Law Judge’s finding that Microsoft did not violate Motorola’s patent and are confident that this determination will be affirmed by the Commission,” David Howard, Microsoft’s corporate vice president and deputy general counsel, said in a statement.

Google can petition the commission to overrule the judge’s findings and impose an import ban.

“We are disappointed with today’s determination and look forward to the full Commission’s review,” Matt Kallman, a Google spokesman, said in a statement

[Hunting Wabbits]

Update-

Judge clears Microsoft, no patent violation.

Well that took way longer than it should have.

The patent trolling in every direction has gotten so bad that the system probably needs to be done away with. Its justified as a means for promoting innovation, but it does nothing but stifle it anymore. You've got to have an entire legal department on staff before you make anything, because you are guaranteed to be sued once you do.