PS4 Specs Look More Powerful than Xbox 720

[gamma626]

I actually feel the Wii u's lesser tech might be benefical to it, at least for a few years. Development costs might be cheaper because of that, especially with the Wii u pro controller basically being a 360 controller!

[hdinred]

Well funny and all, but I do think this generation provided a lot of guidance. As a measuring stick for future predicatability - there is the large caveat that the PS3 was a hassle to program for; but it proved time and again that if a lot of time and resources were devoted to utilizing the machine to its fullest - it could put out some incredible graphics (and while stepping around smackdown issues, I think I can safely say that such graphics represented the peak of what we saw out of consoles this gen). Yet, most developers - instead of bothering to go to such lengths just settled for more mainstream results - and we saw a lot of parity.

PS3 had higher peaks this gen, no doubt, but that doesn’t mean with more time & knowledge, every game could have looked better on PS3. Both machines had strengths and bottlenecks and some games lent themselves better to 360’s architecture and other’s to PS3’s architecture. What we’ve seen are games designed specifically to take advantage of PS3’s strengths certainly are the top of this gen, graphically.

While it's an obviously faulty prediction stick because of the mentioned caveat - I think that if the Wii U doesn't absolutely flop, this gen tells us that we'll see a lot of development that isn't concerned with taking advantage of the new top-most potentials of the 720/PS4. You'll see devs, again, aim more at somewhat of a compromise and then add in things that scale (sort of what they do in PC games; things scale a lot based upon the power of the machine). With that sort of development approach, you'll see games that release on all 3 machines and will look fairly better on the PS4/720 - but the difference won't be night and day.

Aiming for the middle of the market will still result in good graphics, but it will save a lot of development money and will translate to all three consoles in the market.

PS4/Xbox3 games will be made using UE4, The new CryEngine, DX11 (for Xbox 3), etc.. Wii U isn’t going to be capable of running those engines, so maybe it will get some watered down ports, but I don’t think it will pull down performance for all three. But who really knows.

[Badger3920]

PS3 had higher peaks this gen, no doubt, but that doesn’t mean with more time & knowledge, every game could have looked better on PS3.

Perhaps not, but I think that - generally, that's a fairly safe assumption.

[Sarang]

For the BC on PS4 I about want to grab one off the shelf when it comes out and throw a couple of them at the heads of Sony and the rest of you who moaned about the CELL if it turns out to be true. I'm referring to if it's abandoned.
I think Fadan had a point about the PC/Xbox heads. I'm still pissed at those of you who bash Xenoblade Chronicles. Don't piss on my carpet when you come into my house. Show some respect, this is a console market, not PC and while some of you may have migrated to console this is not your house.
The same goes for PC developers now on consoles as well. I grew up with consoles and if you can't respect the market and all its trapping from the NES onward leave. I don't care if a vacuum is left in the market. It's not a J-RPG's job to become a clone of a Western one and then when any complaint is left it's too Japanese.
I apologize for my nonsensical rant but I've had it with some of the PC migrators/wannabes who came here since the first Xbox was released.

[RedRedSuit]

WTF was that?

All you who bash Xenoblade Chronicles?

[CorruptedDragon]

For the BC on PS4 I about want to grab one off the shelf when it comes out and throw a couple of them at the heads of Sony and the rest of you who moaned about the CELL if it turns out to be true. I'm referring to if it's abandoned.
I think Fadan had a point about the PC/Xbox heads. I'm still pissed at those of you who bash Xenoblade Chronicles. Don't piss on my carpet when you come into my house. Show some respect, this is a console market, not PC and while some of you may have migrated to console this is not your house.
The same goes for PC developers now on consoles as well. I grew up with consoles and if you can't respect the market and all its trapping from the NES onward leave. I don't care if a vacuum is left in the market. It's not a J-RPG's job to become a clone of a Western one and then when any complaint is left it's too Japanese.
I apologize for my nonsensical rant but I've had it with some of the PC migrators/wannabes who came here since the first Xbox was released.

What a horrible night to have a meltdown.

[twonunpackmule]

WTF was that?

All you who bash Xenoblade Chronicles?

Online melt down. Nothing to see here. Ritual seppuku will follow.

[Favelle]

What a horrible night to have a meltdown.

Simon's Quest?

[Bane]

For the BC on PS4 I about want to grab one off the shelf when it comes out and throw a couple of them at the heads of Sony and the rest of you who moaned about the CELL if it turns out to be true. I'm referring to if it's abandoned.
I think Fadan had a point about the PC/Xbox heads. I'm still pissed at those of you who bash Xenoblade Chronicles. Don't piss on my carpet when you come into my house. Show some respect, this is a console market, not PC and while some of you may have migrated to console this is not your house.

What... what the fuck? Who bashed Xenoblade? What is a console market? Why are houses involved?

[Onslaught X]

[keke007]

Hello,

Ok, I really want a more ergonomic version of the PS Vita as the PS4 controller, so the chat interface doesn't take up the screen or I can browse youtube videos on how to get past a section in the game as I play it without having to either get up and grab my laptop/tablet/phone etc.

I disagree, unlike last gen, Sony will realize the importance of having a good GPU. It can be like 2 PC's with different graphics cards, and the PS3 would be faster with more features and/or better framerate.

Have fun!