Which game are you getting BF3 or MW3 ?

[Prime Winner]

Dude... Just wow. We're seriously going to move this many goalposts for this reach? So your argument begins to kinda sorta hold water once you (1) ignore and extract data from one of the gaming platforms, and (2) go to a different website in search of data that better supports your viewpoint.

And then, if that wasn't enough, you struck up a soda sales discussion


Must... find... anchor... for atrocious argument

(1) I did acknowledge that PC scores are higher for BF3. but why should PC gaming matter here, it doesnt in real life.
(2) Im pointing out another compilation review site. either one you go with, MW3 outscores BF3.

[Bane]

(Onslaught... grew tired of the series and felt burned by his MW2 purchase)

Heh, care to guess what game he bought yesterday?

[Badger3920]

(1) I did acknowledge that PC scores are higher for BF3. but why should PC gaming matter here, it doesnt in real life.

Aside from the absurdity - gaming doesn't "matter" in real life. It's a hobby. You're trying to launch some garbage about MW3 > BF3 because "paid professional reviewers say so." But you can't get that off the ground because the numbers show a statistical tie. So you jump through a few hoops and cherry pick a little here, and a little there, like that's going to fool anyone.

(2) Im pointing out another compilation review site. either one you go with, MW3 outscores BF3.

And that's false. Unless you mean "either one" meaning either console on gamerankings - in which case this is hilarious, because you've had to evacuate this argument:

MW3 > BF3 because "paid professional reviewers say so"

For this argument:

MW3 > BF3 because "paid professional reviewers say so" * **

*= If you ignore scores, given by "paid professional reviewers" for the games on PC
**= If you, instead of going to metacritic, go to this other aggregator that I've hand picked to favor my ridiculous argument that one game is undeniably better because, even in my cherry-picked data set, it scored a mere 4 points more.


I think you're trying too hard. By all means, they have garnered substantially the exact same critical acclaim, and that bothers you.

Heh, care to guess what game he bought yesterday?

Haha that was expected

[Prime Winner]

I think you're trying too hard. By all means, they have garnered substantially the exact same critical acclaim, and that bothers you.

substantially and exact same dont work together. I cant argue with you, you dont understand basic math, 89 is still higher than 84 (360), and 88 is still higher then 86 (PS3). take your PC score, still down 2-1. BF3 would love to have the numbers MW3 got. scoring and money wise.

[Badger3920]

substantially and exact same dont work together. I cant argue with you, you dont understand basic math

Is 86 the same as 86?

By the way, "substantially" speaks to sufficiency.

BF3 would love to have the numbers MW3 got. scoring and money wise.

Lol, you're still trying to figure out where the sales relevancy comes in? =(. It's interesting that you're trying the "sales are controversial" angle

[D1G1T@L]

It appears that we're doing it right now.




I'm not surprised by this




Well I have no problem with that. If you're objecting to that, it's cool. But the same discussion still applies.

At least you're not 400x zooming like Prime.

I didn't know they were talking the graphics right now. I thought they were discussing reviews and sales.

And you think we should include the PC version of the game in the overall average? Why are you not surprised by me thinking that? Because I guess for years Xbots could of included their exclusives PC versions as well? That's just weird.

I would like to think many of us here on the board know that PC's are different than Consoles, and throwing the PC version of the games ratings into the Consoles version average is just plain silly and crazy talk.

[D1G1T@L]

sorry to inform you that the games reviewed basically the EXACT same;

No they didn't. LMAO.. is that like being second to first? "Basically the EXACT same" No, they did NOT rate the EXACT same. That's spin saying "basically the exact same".

There could of been a game rated like Uncharted 2 that rated the same amount or a point under, and you could say, well there both basically the same Game of the Year, or something like that.

That's just a weak tactic. Silly in fact. Now all of a sudden it's kosher to mix PC scores of the game in with the console version, and scores are somehow, "basically the same". Ha.

That's rich.

BTW, where is this new, BF3 and COD MW3 or both averaging an 86 at? LOL. really? Because you're throwing in PC scores? I'm actually pretty shocked if that's the tactic.

KTA is rolling over in his grave right now.

[Badger3920]

I didn't know they were talking the graphics right now. I thought they were discussing reviews and sales.

What?

And you think we should include the PC version of the game in the overall average? Why are you not surprised by me thinking that? Because I guess for years Xbots could of included their exclusives PC versions as well? That's just weird.

You're not making any sense. I've already said I don't mind if you exclude PC sales because it doesn't really affect the result. I have no idea what you mean by "xbots could [have] included their exclusives PC versions." PC versions have traditionally been ignored so games can be declared "exclusive" - so that would sort of shoot yourself in the foot.

I would like to think many of us here on the board know that PC's are different than Consoles, and throwing the PC version of the games ratings into the Consoles version average is just plain silly and crazy talk.

I didn't throw them in, I was using the numbers provided originally by RRS. Heck, if you want to pull numbers out of the pool because you're more comfortable with the scores that way, go for it.

[Badger3920]

No they didn't. LMAO.. is that like being second to first?

No, it's like being exactly the same. Where were you when this was covered. Both games come out at an 86 average.

There could of been a game rated like Uncharted 2 that rated the same amount or a point under, and you could say, well there both basically the same Game of the Year, or something like that.

That's just a weak tactic. Silly in fact.

Uhh what? Saying games reviewed "basically the same" when they're within a point of each other, as you said, is a "weak tactic" and silly? What are you talking about?

KTA is rolling over in his grave right now.

Or he's just playing Skyrim.

[Onslaught X]

Heh, care to guess what game he bought yesterday?

MP is still eh...

I am however extremely satisfied by the 5 hour, 40 minute campaign. Mostly. Assuming my plan works, it won't have cost me more than $35, and it'll hold excellent trade-in value in the future, but I actually might keep this one since I've kept MW1 and MW2.

[Onslaught X]

There could of been a game rated like Uncharted 2 that rated the same amount or a point under, and you could say, well there both basically the same Game of the Year, or something like that.

Well, sure....being the highest rated on Metacritic isn't exactly the quantifier I'd use for GOTY....

[Favelle]

I didn't know they were talking the graphics right now. I thought they were discussing reviews and sales.

?? WTF? Out of the 3 things you mentioned, graphics, sales, and reviews, which one actually affects YOUR gaming experience? Hint: I gave you a hint.

[michealo]

?? WTF? Out of the 3 things you mentioned, graphics, sales, and reviews, which one actually affects YOUR gaming experience? Hint: I gave you a hint.

Graphics before gameplay

[thejnc]

Graphics before gameplay

Who brought up gameplay? Between the 3 he mentioned, graphics would be most important. At least to me.

[michealo]

Who brought up gameplay? Between the 3 he mentioned, graphics would be most important. At least to me.

It was subtitled.
The best looking, poorly reviewed, bad selling game is just that.