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    Default Xbox 720 to Exceed Current PC Tech


    Technology company AMD, who supplied the graphics hardware for the Xbox 360, claims that the next Xbox will be capable of the level of graphical detail seen in James Cameron's movie Avatar. Even on PC, that kind of technology just isn't here yet, but AMD claims the Xbox 720 will launch with it.

    While AMD would not confirm they were actually working on the 360's successor, director of ISV relationships at AMD, Neal Robison, stated that gamers have a lot to excited about.

    Robison also mentioned that the A.I. and physics capabilities of the next-gen hardware will allow for every pedestrian in a game such as Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row to have a totally individual mentality, meaning when you shoot a gun or run someone over they don't all just do the same thing. There will be no more mob mentality, where everyone just screams and runs away; every NPC will actually be an individual character.

    Whoa.
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    Hyperbole aside, I hope this is a good sign that the next xbox won't go the Wii-route like some suspected.
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    Yup. Its all gaming. Hating on ANY platform is lame. You don't have to prefer a platform, but to be angry at OTHER people for playing it and enjoying it? Well that's just coldfoot/wellinformed/kagemaru mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Favelle View Post
    This thread isn't about that though. Its about Battlefield 3. And you Coldfoot, get the shit version. Sorry.
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    Sounds like they're looking at a high manufacturing cost during the first couple of years?
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    toy story graphics, all over again...
    why hate? participate!
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    So the next Xbox, released in 2 years or whenever, will have tech that's past TODAY'S PC tech? Well fuck, I should hope so. Wake me up when the 720 has tech past what's available at LAUNCH.

    Robison also mentioned that the A.I. and physics capabilities of the next-gen hardware will allow for every pedestrian in a game such as Grand Theft Auto or Saints Row to have a totally individual mentality, meaning when you shoot a gun or run someone over they don't all just do the same thing. There will be no more mob mentality, where everyone just screams and runs away; every NPC will actually be an individual character.
    LOL, its takes "next-gen" to do THAT? ROFL, seriously? That doesn't sound very next-gen to me....

    Quote Originally Posted by michealo View Post
    toy story graphics, all over again...
    LOL, indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by michealo View Post
    toy story graphics, all over again...
    This comes to my mind as well.
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    They lost me at "720" … but the only news might be a confirmation that AMD will indeed be providing the graphics card.

    Still, the idea that the next consoles will exceed what PC games are doing today is completely reasonable. Avatar movie level though, I don’t think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michealo View Post
    toy story graphics, all over again...
    That was Sony quote about the PS2, but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good zing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by michealo View Post
    toy story graphics, all over again...
    Exactly, there is absolutely no way that even the beefiest PC you'll be able to get 2 years from now will be able to match Avatar graphics...Those movies are rendered by thousands of PC's and a single frame takes hours, no way you'll be able to do that in real time in a couple of years.

    We have probably just reached the power to render Final Fantasy movie in real time (on a beefed up PC) and that's 14 years old.
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    Makes sense. This is usually the case for about 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michealo View Post
    toy story graphics, all over again...
    Yeah I know, silly really, but most PR speak is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Favelle View Post
    So the next Xbox, released in 2 years or whenever, will have tech that's past TODAY'S PC tech? Well fuck, I should hope so. Wake me up when the 720 has tech past what's available at LAUNCH.
    I knew it wouldn't be long until you came from under your bridge, welcome back troll.

    You obviously have no idea what you're talking about in terms of console hardware.

    Quote Originally Posted by Favelle View Post
    LOL, its takes "next-gen" to do THAT? ROFL, seriously? That doesn't sound very next-gen to me....
    This type of AI would be rather expensive, and wasteful IMO. You don't see AI like this on PC games, so what's there to laugh about?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldfoot View Post
    We have probably just reached the power to render Final Fantasy movie in real time (on a beefed up PC) and that's 14 years old.
    The Spirits Within? Not even close. We haven't even reached Toy Story graphics real time yet, let alone FF:SW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Favelle View Post
    Yup. Its all gaming. Hating on ANY platform is lame. You don't have to prefer a platform, but to be angry at OTHER people for playing it and enjoying it? Well that's just coldfoot/wellinformed/kagemaru mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Favelle View Post
    This thread isn't about that though. Its about Battlefield 3. And you Coldfoot, get the shit version. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageMaru View Post
    The Spirits Within? Not even close. We haven't even reached Toy Story graphics real time yet, let alone FF:SW.
    I dunno, I saw it recently when Sony gave it for free after the PSN hacking, and a lot of the textures etc weren't that impressive or high res. I thought the triple SLI GTX580 rig could render it at 3840x2160 and supersample to 1080p at 24fps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by michealo View Post
    toy story graphics, all over again...
    AW, SONOFABITCH... I was gonna say that...
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    PR bullshit whatever - I just hope next gen is a jump and not a step.
    Newly converted PC elitist jerk.
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    The 'more powerful then PCs' claim has been made with every console right from the first Atari and when the console is actually released it turns out to be unpowered compared to a modern PC and that will always be the case.

    And yet the claim is believed every time by console fans.

    As for the AI claim that's software not hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman342 View Post
    The 'more powerful then PCs' claim has been made with every console right from the first Atari and when the console is actually released it turns out to be unpowered compared to a modern PC and that will always be the case.
    The first Playstation was actually very powerful compared to the PC's of its day at launch, and PS2 was no slouch thanks to its massive bandwidth, but definitely not as competitive as the PS1 was. This generation though, the PC's were much more powerful from the start.
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