Source: Xbox new disc format gains 1GB

**coldfoot** · 05-21-2011 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by JAC35

And what is so wrong with multiple disks and doing an install to the HDD? This has been going on with PC gaming for years.

All PC's have hard drives, but not all 360's. Not to mention PS3 installs are used as smackdown material here and it'd be hypocritical to say they don't matter on the 360.

**JAC35** · 05-21-2011 10:03 PM

Mark the game Hard Drive required, put a coupon in for $20.00 off the purchase of a new HDD and call it a day. It doesn't have to be hard.

**Indy_aka_Rex** · 05-21-2011 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bane

It's more of a problem for the developers than for MS. In fact I'd say that the only time that DVD has hurt the 360 is FFXIII.

I'd say the fact that L.A. Noire is on 3 discs will (minimally) hurt sales. A 100+ hour JRPG is one thing, a 15-to-20-hour action game? That's different.

Originally Posted by JAC35

And what is so wrong with multiple disks and doing an install to the HDD? This has been going on with PC gaming for years.

No it hasn't. PC games (and certain PS3 games) are optimized for the hard drive, and virtually ALL PC games have variable install-sizes depending on your preference, not to mention once it's installed on the hard drive? You don't need to swap discs or even put a disc in. The 360 has no optional install function, no player-set file-size limit on installs, nothing-- that's the first problem with it; the second problem? On multiple-disc games? You have to install all the data on every disc, so you could easily have a 20+ gb install for a game that only really needed 5; add onto that the fact that MS still feels it needs to sell 250gb hard drives for hundreds of dollars and that it still sells a console configuration WITHOUT a hard drive (or enough memory for an install) and the issues start showing.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice feature to have, but it wasn't very well thought out.

**JAC35** · 05-22-2011 01:55 AM

20 GB installs ok, but how many games are we talking that would require that? A typical Xbox would be able to have 4 large games installed and still have room for other stuff. I do agree what they charge for a hard drive upgrade is absolutely outrageous! PS3 is so much more reasonable in that regard, but it is what it is. BTW... I just did a quick check and you can find a 250GB on sale for $99.

**Snadinator** · 05-22-2011 07:14 PM

Serious waste of R&D funds if you ask me. WTF is 1 extra GB gonna do? Mass Effect 2 would still be 2 discs. LA Noir would still be 3. Just work on the next gen machine.

**coldfoot** · 05-22-2011 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Snadinator

Serious waste of R&D funds if you ask me. WTF is 1 extra GB gonna do? Mass Effect 2 would still be 2 discs. LA Noir would still be 3. Just work on the next gen machine.

They're doing this mainly to combat piracy and the extra 1GB is just a side effect though.

**Elee s** · 05-23-2011 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Snadinator

Serious waste of R&D funds if you ask me. WTF is 1 extra GB gonna do? Mass Effect 2 would still be 2 discs. LA Noir would still be 3. Just work on the next gen machine.

Umm the games that will be most effected will be the 1 disc ones, you know, 99% of releases.

If all they used that 1gb for was less compression on FMV then Im all for it.

**Snadinator** · 05-23-2011 12:25 AM

Meant 6 years

**Snadinator** · 05-23-2011 12:28 AM

Meh. I'm ready for a new gen now. 360 is my favorite console but it's going on 7 years now. Let's get moving. Wouldn't mind facial animations of all games looking as good as la noir

**Indy_aka_Rex** · 05-23-2011 02:28 AM

That's not happening any time soon. L.A. Noire is a special case; the amount of time, resources and money spent to get that kind of technology into every game is not realistic, I think that's one of the points [David] Cage made when he talked about the drawbacks of the tech. I love the technology and the results, but it's disappointing that it'll most likely happen in special cases for the time being.

It's like the defense hdinred once made about how thanks to Kinect we'd be seeing limitless interactions in a Kinect-based game like Milo. Hardware was never the issue with that, everything else is.

**rodrigo** · 05-23-2011 03:00 AM

Um next gen games better look better than LA Noire.

**Indy_aka_Rex** · 05-23-2011 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by rodrigo

Um next gen games better look better than LA Noire.

We're not talking about graphics.

**KageMaru** · 05-23-2011 09:08 AM

6 years on and this argument is still going on? lulz

**hdinred** · 05-23-2011 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Snadinator

Serious waste of R&D funds if you ask me. WTF is 1 extra GB gonna do? Mass Effect 2 would still be 2 discs. LA Noir would still be 3. Just work on the next gen machine.

I think it's just as much a security measure as it is to allow more space. To use the new disc format, the latest system and DVD drive firmware will have to be installed.

**Snadinator** · 05-23-2011 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Indy_aka_Rex

We're not talking about graphics.

Indeed. I would just like to see the quality of facial animations and lyp synching of la noir become a norm. Even though that reality is still a ways off.

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