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    Quote Originally Posted by BBM128 View Post
    The PS3's strongest market is the market in which it's sales are numerically the greatest. Lets just keep it simple.
    And the PS3's worst market would probably be japan.

    Its impossible really to compare the 2 systems based upon one region or another since one system has sales everyone, where there other is centered mostly in NA and the UK.
    Waiting for the day when sales or graphics or reviews matter again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murphjp View Post
    And the PS3's worst market would probably be japan.

    Its impossible really to compare the 2 systems based upon one region or another since one system has sales everyone, where there other is centered mostly in NA and the UK.
    @the bolded: Technically speaking, that would be correct. It's not so much the fault of the PS3 as it is with Japan's marketshare being something like 20%. That's not a tiny figure by any stretch of the imagination, but the other two major markets are each 40%. A look at the percentages without seeing the sales numbers may (or may not) make the PS3 look stronger than the 360 depending on the market but I've come to see a platform's commercial strength per region (or even worldwide) as being based on it's raw sales numbers as opposed to a percent of a region. Even if the PS3 or 360 trail the other in sales numbers, that isn't, in and of itself, a sign of weakness as that would be infantile logic at best.

    The 360 is in the single digits of marketshare in Japan while it remains very healthy and competitive virtually everywhere else. The PS3 does have healthy Japanese sales coupled with healthy and competitive sales across the globe. I don't necessarily think that it means the 360 is a weak commercial product, as it definitely is not. It's strong, absolutely, though just not as strong as the PS3, commercially. That's a little unfair to say, though, because of the near non-existant adoption in Japan, though.
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    Numbers released at the Kyoto Cross Media Experience 2010 published by Famitsu 2010 Nov. for global numbers for consoles sold...

    anyway for the part we are interested in... PS3's now at 42 million vs 360's 41 million consoles. 360 leads the PS3 by 3 million consoles sold.

    http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/08035343.html

    pic of the slide during the conference...
    http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/i...m29185y14.html

    PlayStation 2: 120,000,000

    PlayStation: 102,000,000

    Wii: 74,000,000

    NES: 63,000,000

    SNES: 49,000,000

    Xbox 360: 44,600,000

    PlayStation 3: 41,600,000

    N64: 33,000,000

    Megadrive: 34,000,000

    Xbox: 24,000,000

    GameCube: 22,000,000

    Atari 2600: 14,000,000

    DreamCast: 11,000,000

    PC Engine: 10,000,000

    Sega Saturn: 8,700,000

    3DO: 2,000,000

    PONG: 10,000
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    I'd say we should go by the numbers released by the manufacturers themselves to their shareholders, they can't fake that or they'll go to jail. With those numbers, 360 is about 2 million ahead.
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    awww ivan got his hopes up
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellInformed View Post
    Yes, X360 has technical advantages over the PS3. Bad code can still run on the X360. It can't run on the PS3.
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    well, some are back to thinking about RROD replacements (being counted in those numbers) to feel better!
    This generation is all about co-leading! 2nd place is first loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrochaos View Post
    awww ivan got his hopes up
    Who's Ivan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grasp View Post
    well, some are back to thinking about RROD replacements (being counted in those numbers) to feel better!
    This generation is all about co-leading! 2nd place is first loser.
    Which is why sales discussions are somewhat silly. Wii has it all but sealed. Being 2nd and 3rd is hardly anything worth bragging about unless there is some sort of blowout between 2nd and 3rd, which there isnt. Even if there is a blowout; the claimed victory is NOT in the sense that "oh look i'm number 2" - it's just a tiny bit of credibility lent to the idea that the 3rd place console sold poorly. However, the PS3 and 360 aren't in position to be called "poor sellers" by the end of the generation in any meaningful sense.

    That leads to one conclusion. If you're a sales fanboy, and you aren't also primarily a wii fanboy; you're without anything to brag about this gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldfoot View Post
    Who's Ivan?
    Good one, you're as funny as CorruptedDragon and Almril
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldfoot View Post
    Who's Ivan?
    I think the golden rule is to not be the one who has to ask that since 100% of the time its always the person it applies to who asks. Guilty conscience and all that i suppose.
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    the 360 has beaten the PS3 so far this gen and set the stage for winning next gen
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    I pathetic Sony defending piece of shit dick-rider.
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    It may be "the goldern rule," but the chances of coldfoot being ivan are very very very low. Their styles are totally different. Ivan would never go on and on about how Americans are unsophisticated gun-toting brutes, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorruptedDragon View Post
    I think the golden rule is to not be the one who has to ask that since 100% of the time its always the person it applies to who asks. Guilty conscience and all that i suppose.
    Au contraire, I knew asking about someone would surface the accusations of me being them, but asked anyway since I have nothing to fear, because I'm not Ivan and I don't even know who he is. I guess we have to give you guys $5/month to keep up with our advanced thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldfoot View Post
    Au contraire, I knew asking about someone would surface the accusations of me being them, but asked anyway since I have nothing to fear, because I'm not Ivan and I don't even know who he is. I guess we have to give you guys $5/month to keep up with our advanced thinking
    I dunno, I don't even know who Ivan is myself. Then again, maybe I would say that....because apparently i'm also Midnighter according to some people.
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    the 360 has beaten the PS3 so far this gen and set the stage for winning next gen
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    I pathetic Sony defending piece of shit dick-rider.
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