Worldwide console sales thread

[coldfoot]

Yes, but there is a separate thread for it, this thread is based on quarterly figures released by console makers

[CorruptedDragon]

Yes, but there is a separate thread for it, this thread is based on quarterly figures released by console makers

LOL

Funny considering your whole point for this thread was this line in your original post

Smackdown: As you can see, NPD and worldwide are very different.

NPD, Japanese, and European sales figures are still in scope for this conversation.

[RedRedSuit]

trying to get another thread closed?

There's nothing wrong with the thread. What's wrong is that post you quoted....

[coldfoot]

NPD, Japanese, and European sales figures are still in scope for this conversation.

None of those figures, even NPD, are as complete as quarterly console figures straight from the manufacturers. Even NPD doesn't involve all retailers.

One more time, there are separate threads for NPD and Japan, so specific discussion should be contained in those threads. Also just posting an image without any text explanation is just trying to be clever, since it would appear as that graph meant worldwide sales due to the name of the thread and the lack of any explanation saying that it's NPD on the chart.

[upgrayedd]

There's a separate thread for NPD, that's why it belongs there among the ignorant, uncultured, religious and violent.

That has got to be my favorite quote from Talladega Nights!

[BStroms]

Pretty sure that "worldwide" sales is made up of the sales from different regions. Showing the sales of one region that is part of the sum of worldwide sales is in scope for the discussion, or as pointed out, doesn't fit your agenda of only talking European or Japanese sales here. ( places where you preferred system is ahead).

I would like to point out that, unless I missed something, you're the first person to mention Europe or Japan in this thread.

NPD, Japanese, and European sales figures are still in scope for this conversation.

I'll agree with you here. I have no problem with anyone mentioning specific regions in a worldwide thread. As much as it is nice to stay on topic, I've always felt people on both sides have been a bit too touchy on what exactly 'belongs' in a specific thread. But it this case, it belongs quite well, as they are indeed parts of the world, as you stated.

Also just posting an image without any text explanation is just trying to be clever, since it would appear as that graph meant worldwide sales due to the name of the thread and the lack of any explanation saying that it's NPD on the chart.

Quite true. In a worldwide thread I'd assume any posted chart would be considered worldwide by default. If that's not the case, it would be best to label it to avoid confusion.

Anyway, barring Move vs Kinect causing a major shift, (which I don't expect to happen) I think it's a pretty safe bet that the PS3 will pass the 360 worldwide, but will never do so in the US. At least not unless it continues selling long after the 360 is taken off shelves.

[CorruptedDragon]

I would like to point out that, unless I missed something, you're the first person to mention Europe or Japan in this thread.

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I would have thought that the term "worldwide sales" would imply sales from all of the countries of the world. Since we only really get the 3 major ones, USA-Japan-Europe, that it was pretty much implied that the sales figures being touted here are made up of the 3 major sub sections.

Also, this thread was created by Coldfoot in response to the NPD "win" of the 360. The proof also lies in his final line of post #1, where he points out that the picture is different worldwide ( vs NPD). It was kind of like a kid taking his ball home and making up his own game to play by himself so he could generate a win and feel better.

[coldfoot]

It was kind of like a kid taking his ball home and making up his own game to play by himself so he could generate a win and feel better.

So worldwide is like a kid's own game he plays by himself and NPD is the real thing? Good to know.

[CorruptedDragon]

So worldwide is like a kid's own game he plays by himself and NPD is the real thing? Good to know.

Nope, just the petulant attitude that was the impetus to start this thread. Not the numbers itself.

[BStroms]

I would have thought that the term "worldwide sales" would imply sales from all of the countries of the world. Since we only really get the 3 major ones, USA-Japan-Europe, that it was pretty much implied that the sales figures being touted here are made up of the 3 major sub sections.

It wasn't clearly stated in the original post, but to me it seemed pretty certain from the use of financial quarters that these were pulled from companies' respective financial statements. I've used those numbers myself in the past, and they include all sales in all regions. They really are the most accurate numbers you can get in that regard.

I do realize now, that my original post sounded more like an accusation than I intended it. I simply like to point out technicalities.

[CorruptedDragon]

[QUOTE=BStroms;2035865][QUOTE=CorruptedDragon;2035833]I would have thought that the term "worldwide sales" would imply sales from all of the countries of the world. Since we only really get the 3 major ones, USA-Japan-Europe, that it was pretty much implied that the sales figures being touted here are made up of the 3 major sub sections.

It wasn't clearly stated in the original post, but to me it seemed pretty certain from the use of financial quarters that these were pulled from companies' respective financial statements. I've used those numbers myself in the past, and they include all sales in all regions. They really are the most accurate numbers you can get in that regard.

I do realize now, that my original post sounded more like an accusation than I intended it. I simply like to point out technicalities.

It's cool. I didn't take it as an accusation or nothing.

[BladeofTheImmortal]

That's all this thread is, it to discuss the new Hardware shipment numbers MS and Sony released today for Q2.

For MS: They shipped 2.8 million 360 units. Up by 0.7 million units from last year's Q1 (MS's fiscal year begins on July 1st, so when they are at Q1, Sony and Nintendo are on Q2) shipment. Due in part to the 360's newly redesigned Xbox 360 Slim. This puts their lifetime sales at 44.5 million units sold. Not bad at all.

For Sony: They shipped 3.5 million units. Up by only 0.3 million units from last year's Q2 shipment. Still riding the PS3 Slim's redesign and price drop no doubt. This puts their lifetime sales at 41.6 units. Not bad at all either, especially for a sinking ship.


Oh, the great news, they both trounced Wii's Q2 shipment at a paltry 1.93 million units shipped. The fad is finally over my friends...oh wait, Wii has still sold over 75.90 million units for its lifetime .


So now for some smackdown, MS is only 2.9 million units ahead from the PS3 overtaking it, and that's with a redesigned console selling very very well. Will kinect be the game changer they want or is it all looking like third place for them again?

[Kenshiro]

So now for some smackdown, MS is only 2.9 million units ahead from the PS3 overtaking it, and that's with a redesigned console selling very very well. Will kinect be the game changer they want or is it all looking like third place for them again?

Xbox was actually 2nd place last gen. I'm pretty bad at predicting fads, so I have no idea if kinect will be a game changer. But I think the PS3 should get a slight bump from GT5.

[michealo]

threads merged

everybody knows, one market > the world.

[coldfoot]

According to Nintendo's numbers, There's been a surge in PS3 sales in Europe throughout September. I wonder if it's move or Fifa that's responsible for that, since Move's been only out there for the last 2 weeks of September.