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Old 08-07-2008, 07:07 PM
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This is "old news" but I feel the hype train never started on this site. So, better late then never.

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We're on the verge of losing a movie. Spike Jonze's version of Where the Wild Things Are is a film with an uncertain future as executives behind the scenes at Warner Bros and Legendary Pictures are right now trying to figure out whether or not to essentially reshoot the entire film.

If the entire film gets reshot you will hear that the decision came because of technical issues, specifically the animation of the Wild Things' mouths and facial features. The film uses people in huge Jim Henson Creature Shop suits, and the plan was to shoot the suits and animate the Wild Things' faces later. That has been proving to be more technically difficult than anyone had foreseen, even though test footage had been shot (a leaked clip from the movie that hit the internet this weekend was in fact some of that test footage, according to a statement from Spike Jonze). This is a bad situation, obviously, but one where some footage could be salvaged, meaning that a complete and total reshoot of the film wouldn't be necessary.

Yet I'm hearing that just such a massive reshoot is what is on the table right now. And it's not because of technical issues, unless you want to consider the lead kid actor and the script technical issues. Sources tell me that the suits at Legendary and Warner Bros are not happy with Max Records, the actor playing Max, the mischievous boy who is crowned King of the Wild Things. Worse than that, they don't like the film's tone and want to go back to the script drawing board, possibly losing the Spike Jonze/Dave Eggers script when they do it. Apparently the film is too weird and 'too scary,' and the character of Max is being seen as not likable (check out some of the test screening responses that Slashfilm is running).

Where The Wild Things Are screened for a test audience in Pasadena late last year; my friend BC, who watches a horror movie a day, caught the screening and liked what he saw, but I've also been told that the movie is 'subversive,' which is just the sort of thing that drives studio suits up the wall. The film, I keep hearing, is pretty great at this early stage of post-production, but it could very possibly not be a commercial movie. You can imagine the panic at Warner Bros when they realized they'd made a reportedly 75 million dollar kiddie art house film.

Can Warner Bros force Spike back to do the sort of massive reshoots they want? I've been on the phone to Warner Bros and Legendary and have not been able to get official statements about the status of the film, or whether Spike has final cut. A less reliable source has told me that he does in fact have final cut, which means that if he doesn't want to go back and do the reshoots he doesn't have to - but Warner Bros could still fire him and assign the reshoots to someone more compliant. Spike has a crew he likes to work with and they have not yet been told to gear up for additional shooting although they do know that it could be coming.

The scary thing is that this wouldn't be unprecedented for Warner Bros. Just a couple of years ago they scrapped Paul Schrader's Exorcist prequel and sent Renny Harlin out to remake the thing using the same sets and some of the same actors. Both versions ended up being terrible, but this studio has shown their willingness to do something just this nutty before.

There has been a glimmer of good news, and it's that Spike issued a statement about the leaked clip. For a little while I contemplated the idea that it had been leaked by Spike as some sort of move against the suits, but what could that move have meant? The fact that Spike is making statements about the clip - and that he's making statements at all about the movie - is a sign that not all is lost.

Everything points to Spike Jonze's Where the Wild Things Are being a unique and fascinating film. It's not a cookie cutter kid movie, and I know that was part of the original appeal to folks at Warner Bros - why the hell else do you bring Jonze on? I didn't make it out to that Pasadena test screening, but now I wish I had so that I could report to you just what sort of a movie Spike has made. The reality, though, is that it doesn't matter since I tend to come down on the side of the great talent in these cases, and there's no question that Spike is a great talent. I don't trust the money people to look at a movie that's different and non-comformist and to understand it. Of course they're afraid of it. You can make movies where you don't take risks, but in this case they've decided to take the risk. They should let it play out and see what happens.

It's important to keep in mind that as of this weekend nothing was decided or set in stone. Hopefully all the behind the scenes stuff will settle soon, Spike will get to release the movie he wants to release and Warner Bros will strongly support the film with marketing and advertising. Meanwhile I'll keep my ear to the ground and let you know what I hear.
http://chud.com/articles/articles/13...HOT/Page1.html

The leaked footage can be seen via this Youtube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xGfIPskRkw

The footage you're seeing is "test footage". It's explained in this blurp

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“that was a very early test with the sole purpose of just getting some footage to Ben our vfx (visual effects) supervisor to see if our vfx plan for the faces would work. The clip doesn’t look or feel anything like the movie, the Wild Thing suit is a very early cringy prototype, and the boy is a friend of ours Griffin who we had used in a Yeah Yeah Yeahs video we shot a few weeks before. We love him, but he is not in the actually film…Oh and that is not a wolf suit, its a lamb suit we bought on the internet. Talk to you later…”
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/19/...re-video-clip/

Anyway, I'm extremely excited for this film. I've been eagerly waiting for adaptation since I was a child. It seems like this should have been made years and years ago. Too bad Disney couldn't have figured out how when they owned the rights...but I think I like the idea of Jonze doing it.

Who else is pumped...yet, worried about this film and its release? I hope this doesn't become a butchered film, where we have to wait years for a "possible" Director's Cut. Ugh, it would be terrible if this got swept under the rug.
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Old 08-07-2008, 07:38 PM
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I regret not having gone to the test screening last year... or was it the year before that???

They showed the one and only screening in my hometown.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:03 PM
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It really sucks but I don't what would be better. Re-shoot or Re-cancel.
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:32 AM
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I'm just happy that Jonze wants to make it slightly creepy. It fits with the older 80's style kids films. The style that Henson did, where it had just the right mixture of scares and delights. That odd combination that fairy tales should have.

Gilliam and early Henson were the two greats of that combination.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:23 AM
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Why are studios so fucking money-grubbing and idiotic? So the movie doesn't appeal to the PG crowd? Is that such a bad thing? Would it be so terrible that in between the 200 terrible kid-oriented snoozefests they actually make a thought-provoking, cool-ass movie?

Knowing Warner, probably not.
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Old 08-11-2008, 09:38 AM
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It really sucks but I don't what would be better. Re-shoot or Re-cancel.
That is NOT actual footage, read the blurp about the clip under the link. Or just read the whole article to understand the concept.

Does anyone else think about the South Park when everyone goes to "Asspen" and the timeshare people are showing the pictures and a few pop up of an island paradise where the wild things are eating people ? Cracks me up.
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Old 08-11-2008, 03:17 PM
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been waiting along time for this movie, I effing hate studios for massive interfering, which is why I hate FOX with a passion... when has bringing a different director on for reshoots ever worked, 'invasion' anybody? and the Exorcist prequel was god awful... JUst let Jonze work out the technical issues and release his cut.... complaing its too scary?.... c'mon
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:16 PM
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do kids even still read the book? seems like it was a bigger book up through the early 90's or so. so that would put more of the target audience older anyway.
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