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			<title><![CDATA[Digital Rev is truly pennies and not even pennies" says WB Chair]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:13:52 GMT</pubDate>
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				“[Digital revenue] is truly pennies and not even pennies when compared to the rest of our business. Digital is five, six, seven or eight years down the road.”
			
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			<dc:creator>towergrove</dc:creator>
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			<title>DVD2Blu.com:  Warner announces DVD to Blu-ray exchange program</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:44:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>DVD2Blu  is similar to their older Red2Blu HD DVD to Blu-ray exchange program.

50 DVD titles available now, some overlap with the Red2Blu...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>DVD2Blu  is similar to their older Red2Blu HD DVD to Blu-ray exchange program.<br />
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50 DVD titles available now, some overlap with the Red2Blu program.bbblu <br />
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				Warner Site Exchanges DVDs for Blu-ray Discs<br />
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By : Chris Tribbey	 | Posted: 17 Nov 2009 <br />
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Starting Nov. 17, owners of 55 DVD titles from Warner Home Video can trade in those DVDs for Blu-ray Discs by visiting a Web site and paying a small fee.<br />
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Visitors to<br />
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DVD2Blu.com<br />
can upgrade their movies — including A Christmas Story, The Dirty Dozen and Training Day — for $7.95 or $9.95 per exchange, with free shipping on orders of more than $25. Users mail in their DVDs with pre-paid postage and receive Blu-ray Discs a short time later. Warner plans to add more titles in the coming months.<br />
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The DVDs sent to Warner will be destroyed, the studio said.<br />
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“DVD2Blu is a great way for consumers to start or expand their Blu-ray Disc collection,” said Dorinda Marticorena, Warner Home Video SVP of worldwide marketing and high definition. “We’re launching the program with a wide range of titles that will appeal to a broad audience.”
			
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			<dc:creator>Kosty</dc:creator>
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			<title>Forget Blu-ray/DVD price parity, Blu-ray actually cheaper!!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:23:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[First, I thought Amazon selling the new Star Trek movie at the same price for Blu-ray and DVD was great but if you look at Target's Special edition...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>First, I thought Amazon selling the new Star Trek movie at the same price for Blu-ray and DVD was great but if you look at Target's Special edition with the plastic model case, The Blu-ray is actually $2 cheaper than the DVD version.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Wiz33</dc:creator>
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			<title>MGM and its library up for grabs soon - Anyone want it?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:59:39 GMT</pubDate>
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				MGM may be the best known logo in the entertainment business, but the company seems headed for another possible garage sale.<br />
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Several sources say they expect that MGM will essentially be auctioned off within the next few weeks.<br />
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This would mean that a major, such as Time Warner, could buy the MGM-UA library while another entity might acquire the logo, and yet another deal could be made for United Artists. Sources speculated that Kirk Kerkorian, who has already bought and sold MGM twice, might buy the logo once again.<br />
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Last summer Harry Sloan was bounced as MGM's CEO and Stephen Cooper, a specialist in restructuring companies (Krispy Kreme was one of his projects) started meeting with bankers with the aim of restructuring some $3.7 billion in debt. There was speculation that the combined assets of MGM may now yield as little as $1.5 billion in the present market.<br />
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The various equity owners of MGM, including several private equity firms, have already written down their $5 billion acquisition, which closed in 2004.<br />
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MGM's library contains 4.000 titles, but some specialists in film libraries consider its list of titles to be geriatric.<br />
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Any sort of auction would need approval of a two-thirds majority of the bondholders, and a couple of the bondholders insist they have not been contacted as yet. Some sources believe a pre-packaged bankruptcy is still an option, and there is still an expectation that Time-Warner might make a last eleventh hour bid.<br />
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Neither Cooper nor MGM would comment.<br />
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MGM's released only a remake of &quot;Fame&quot; this year. For 2010, it's opening two comedies -- &quot;Hot Tub Time Machine&quot; in March and &quot;The Zookeeper&quot; in October -- and a remake of &quot;Red Dawn&quot; in November.
			
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</div>And how is this Smackdown? Whatever studio gets it (if any) will have access to thousands of movies which may or may not see the light of day on Blu-ray. As it stands, MGM has not announced any future Blu-rays (that I'm aware of).</div>

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			<title>Best Buy Boosts Blu:  Home Media Magazine Article</title>
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By : Erik Gruenwedel	 | Posted: 11 Nov 2009 <br />
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<b>Best Buy Co. is ramping up its Blu-ray Disc software push this holiday season, allocating up to three times as much floor space to the high-definition disc as it did last year and working with two studios to test new store patterns.</b><br />
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<b>Throughout its 1,023 U.S. stores, the Minneapolis-based consumer electronics chain — reportedly the nation’s No. 1 Blu-ray Disc software retailer — is allocating up to 30% of its entertainment retail space to Blu-ray, up from 10% in the 2008 holiday season. </b><br />
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In some stores, the Blu-ray Disc software section has been moved up front, replacing CDs, which have been pushed to the back.<br />
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<b>The switch is significant as Best Buy typically generates 50% of its holiday foot traffic through entertainment,</b> according to analysts. The chain, which has upped efforts to capture the nascent migration toward digital distribution of movies and TV shows, reported as a 23.4% decline in entertainment software sales in the most recent fiscal quarter.<br />
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<b>Best Buy also is working with Universal Studios Home Entertainment and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment in 13 so-called “movie test stores” in Los Angeles and Chicago.</b><br />
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<b>In those stores, studio retail representatives have created standalone kiosks and product placements showcasing newly released Blu-ray titles that are surrounded by secondary DVD releases and catalog fare, according to Diane Sherwood, Best Buy’s merchant director for movies.</b><br />
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<b>Specifically, Fox created “bull-nose” sections devoted to comedy, horror or drama characterized as “islands of interest” designed to pull in customers. <br />
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Universal created similar new-release fixtures in the middle of stores surrounded by catalog fare and highlighted by expressive signage. <br />
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“The customer has to walk through the catalog titles to get to the new releases,” Sherwood said. “We are seeing increased consumer interest in that.”</b><br />
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She said Best Buy instituted a policy that lets consumers unable to find a title (Blu-ray or DVD) to order it, and it will be shipped to them for free.<br />
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Sherwood said the idea behind the “test stores” is to help customers find the titles they’re interested in, in addition to getting them to “interact” with catalog product. <br />
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<b>“Our focus this holiday season is definitely Blu-ray and stepping customers up to [the format],” Sherwood said. “We are definitely driving the industry in Blu-ray promotions.”</b><br />
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<b>She said many Best Buy stores have “re-flowed” entertainment departments to allow Blu-ray Disc titles to be displayed face-out (with the front cover showing) rather than library-style, with only the spine visible. This gives customers a “better shopping” experience, Sherwood maintains.<br />
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In addition, home theater departments feature Blu-ray end-caps highlighting the steps and product required to experience HD movies in the home.<br />
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Sherwood said <b>stores also have implemented genre-specific Blu-ray sections, in addition to carrying budget-priced Blu-ray titles selling for as little as $10. </b><br />
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Freestanding bins offer DVD titles from $4.99.<br />
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“We keep wondering why the [Blu-ray] adoption may not be exactly where everybody had hoped it would be,” she said. “What we’re hearing [in focus groups and test surveys] is that consumers want to get the most out of their high-definition television. And Blu-ray delivers that.”<br />
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She said the<b> in-store focus has moved beyond the Blu-ray log to signage changes in the home theater department, online, gaming and brochures spelling out the benefits of the HD format. </b><br />
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Sherwood said the t<b>raditional in-store Blu-ray content playing on TV displays has been altered to focus on educating consumers that the HDTV experience can be replicated in movies</b>. The educational process includes training store employees in home theater training, signage and monthly updates in “The DVD Insider” distributed monthly in stores.<br />
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“It’s not enough to just call out the Blu-ray logo and say that it’s a premium product,” Sherwood said. “We need to land what the customer is asking for and solve their problems. It is really about making it an end-to-end experience.”<br />
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She said no decision had been made whether to emulate Wal-Mart, Target and Amazon by offering fourth-quarter new-release DVDs for $10.<br />
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“I hate to see prices dive so low,” Sherwood said.
			
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			<title><![CDATA["Blu-ray one of the Hottest Categories in our store"- says Mike Vitelli VP at B Buy]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:16:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Great interview with Mike Vitelli Executive Vice President at Best Buy here:


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			<dc:creator>towergrove</dc:creator>
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			<title>Stores Bringing Blu-ray Disc Prices Below $20 - HMM article</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:45:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Significant Home Media Magazine article, including thoughts of Blu-ray eventually replacing DVD at retail.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Significant Home Media Magazine article, including thoughts of Blu-ray eventually replacing DVD at retail.<br />
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Lower Blu-ray pricing and increased Blu-ray household penetration and the studios and retailers settling for Blu-ray being a replacement for DVD works for me.<br />
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				Stores Bringing Blu-ray Disc Prices Below $20<br />
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By : John Latchem	 | Posted: 10 Nov 2009 <br />
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<b>Premium pricing for new Blu-ray Disc releases appears to be falling by the wayside as part of an all-out effort by studios to bring the high-definition format to the masses.</b><br />
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<b>Indeed, Wal-Mart and several other mass merchant retail chains have begun to sell certain new Blu-ray Discs at less than $20, practically the same price as a new DVD.</b><br />
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“There’s a lot of aggressive discounting going on,” said Tom Adams, president of Adams Media Research. “We expect to see more of that.”<br />
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<b>Studio executives initially saw Blu-ray Disc as a way to get consumers to pay more for movies after years of steady price erosion on DVD, particularly on the catalog side of the business. But with the troubled economy slowing Blu-ray Disc’s move into the mainstream, executives are rethinking their strategy and sacrificing premium pricing for faster mass adoption.</b><br />
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“Clearly, price is a factor, especially in this economy,” said a home entertainment division president of one of the six major studios. <b>“We originally saw Blu-ray as a way to generate incremental revenue from premium price points, but we’re at the point now where we’re willing to settle for [Blu-ray Disc being] a replacement technology.”</b><br />
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During the Nov. 3 Blu-Con 2.0 conference in Beverly Hills, Calif., Best Buy EVP Mike Vitelli complained about Blu-ray Disc’s higher pricing, which he sees as an obstacle to mass market adoption — particularly since the format doesn’t yet have widely available portable or mobile player options. <br />
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Wal-Mart has started offering new Blu-ray Discs of theatrical films such as Paramount’s Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment’s Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs and Aliens in the Attic, and Sony Pictures Home Entertainment’s The Taking of Pelham 123 at $19.96 their first week on shelves.<br />
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Judging by online presales of upcoming titles for late November and early December, several other retailers are following suit. Target and Amazon.com have joined Walmart.com in offering a slew of films on Blu-ray for less than $20: Warner’s My Sister’s Keeper, Four Christmases, Terminator: Salvation, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and The Hangover; Sony Pictures’ Angels &amp; Demons; and Fox’s Night at the Museum: Battle for the Smithsonian. In most cases, the Blu-ray is offered at only $1 or $2 more than the DVD version, and cheaper than multi-DVD special editions that offer more bonus content than the basic DVD, but usually have less content than the Blu-ray version.<br />
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<b>“There’s something about that $20 market in business that doesn’t change, despite 3% inflation in the last decade,” Adams said. “DVD sales at mass market exploded after falling below that $20 barrier. That seems to be the magic price point.”</b><br />
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<b>The drive to lower the store-selling price of Blu-ray Disc releases is likely a response to retailers such as Vitelli who say it’s tough enough to push a new format in this economy without being saddled with significantly higher prices.<br />
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<b>Adding further pressure to lower prices on new Blu-ray Discs is the surge in rentals,</b> a byproduct of the recession industry pundits say is behind the 13.9% drop in year-over-year packaged-media sales.<br />
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<b>Studio sources say the lower store prices are being made possible in part by a significant drop in the wholesale price they charge retailers for new Blu-ray Discs, although they hasten to add that mass merchants also are using Blu-ray Discs as loss leaders, meaning the sales price is actually below cost</b>.<br />
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On the surface, little has changed. Studios will typically list a new-release theatrical DVD at a suggested retail price of $29.99, with the Blu-ray Disc version of the same title listing at $39.99 or $35.99. According to the industry tip sheet The DVD Release Report, the average studio SRP for both theatrical DVD and Blu-ray Disc titles has actually increased since 2007, the first full year Blu-ray was on the market.<br />
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“That just shows the irrelevance of suggested retail prices,” said one veteran industry observer.<br />
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According to a Home Media Magazine survey of pricing at Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart and Amazon.com, <b>the average shelf price of a new Blu-ray Disc of a theatrical film has dropped nearly $2 from the first half of 2009 to the second. And from the third quarter to the fourth quarter, the price has dropped nearly $3,</b> based on pre-release pricing from the stores’ Web sites.<br />
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“Premium prices were going to shrink,” Adams said. “But we didn’t expect to see prices under $20 this year.”<br />
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The average price charged for new basic-configuration DVDs also has dropped about $2 from the first half of the year to the second. A lot of this change is due to several retailers pre-selling new-release DVDs of hit films for $10 or less heading into the holiday shopping season.<br />
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“It’s a question of whether it’s worth it for the traffic,” Adams said. “And they are all in desperate need for a strong comeback. They’re willing to lose a buck or two on a DVD. So yes, it is worth it.”<br />
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<b>Studios also are stepping up the production of Blu-ray Disc combo packs, which contain both the Blu-ray Disc and the DVD versions of a film in the same package and typically sell for the same or not much more than the standalone Blu-ray Disc.</b><br />
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<b>“[The DVD in the combo pack is] a cheap thing to give away,” Adams said. “The more, the better, if it encourages consumers to move on.”</b><br />
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<b>Adams projects 9 million Blu-ray ready homes at the end of this year, up from 3 million at the end of last year. He said the format has less than 10% market penetration, after discounting PlayStation 3 gamers who he says don’t have any interest in buying movies.</b><br />
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<b>Once the number of homes hits the 25 million to 50 million range, Adams said, studios should be able to safely phase out DVD completely</b>.<br />
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<b>“[Blu-ray is] going to be adopted, in our view,” Adams said. “It’s the next player you buy. It will be under $100 for the holidays this year, and under $100 permanently starting next year. The adoption curve is healthy. It gives the studio a lot of options.</b>”<br />
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			<dc:creator>Kosty</dc:creator>
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			<title>No official Oppos for Europe just yet</title>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">After careful evaluation of the resources available, it has been determined that the release of the OPPO BDP-831 Blu-ray Disc player in Europe will be postponed indefinitely. It is with sincere regret that we have to make this difficult decision. However, we feel that this is in the best interest of our customers and quality standards. Customer support and satisfaction are the cornerstones of OPPO, and with the currently available resources, unfortunately we will not be able to equally serve all our European customers with the release of the BDP-831. Language barriers, shipping constraints, and our ability to quickly, efficiently, and accurately support our valuable European customers undermine the quality standards expected of OPPO. We apologize to the customers who love and support OPPO all along and have been waiting for the release of BDP-831 patiently, and hope we can come back with better planning and resources in the future to serve our customers the best.<br />
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</div></a>I know this isn't really Smackdown in itself, it's really a follow up on thread about this from a few weeks ago.  So, they're no longer selling the BDP-831 officially here in Europe, and perhaps not opening their UK branch yet although it doesn't say.  No news on DVD, so I presume their official confirmation of having dropped development still stands.<br />
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I suppose it's better than going ahead unprepared and making a hash of it, but I'm still a bit gutted.  It looks like I'll probably have to go down the import route after all.<br />
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			<title>Netflix likes price-window tradeoff</title>
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By Susanne Ault -- Video Business, 11/6/2009<br />
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NOV. 6 | PHYSICAL: Netflix will accept a one-month delay on new releases—an option it is discussing with several major studios—but only if its inventory cost is slashed by as much as half, according to sources.<br />
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The subscription rental company is believed to be discussing such an arrangement with Warner Home Video, Universal Studios Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment and possibly others. None of the studios has agreed to drop prices as much as Netflix wants, sources said.<br />
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The same three studios have already imposed a window of at least four weeks on rental kiosk operator Redbox, as they strive to either push low-cost rentals into a later window or realize more profit from kiosks and subscriptions.<br />
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Redbox is suing the three studios and stocking its kiosks with their titles bought at retail, but Netflix is more willing to take new releases in a later window for reduced title costs. In fact, insiders say it’s an idea Netflix pitched to studios several years ago.<br />
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“Creating a rental window is not a punitive action,” Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos said. “It’s a decision that the retailers and studios can make together. If the studios can entice a rentailer to create a rental window, I believe that rentailers, studios and consumers can all benefit from it.” He would not comment specifically on the pricing Netflix is looking for, but did confirm it is seeking discounts in exchange for the window.<br />
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Warner has publicly confirmed its current window negotiations with Netflix. Spokespeople for Fox and Universal declined comment on window considerations with Netflix.<br />
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Netflix’s core business is catalog transactions, which make up about 70% of its revenue. That should help ease an introduction of a 30-day delay on new releases, since most Netflix customers are relatively more interested in older content. Redbox, with nearly 100% of its business in new releases, sees the delay as more oppressive to its operations.<br />
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Studios and other sources note that Redbox and Netflix are the focus of delayed rental windows because they have much more momentum that bricks-and-mortar stores and are consequently viewed as the biggest threat to consumer sales.<br />
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“They’ve definitely grown and are a significant leader in the rental market,” said one studio executive of Netflix. “With a 30-day window, it won’t hurt their model. And they can help us overall with sales revenue.”<br />
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Studio sources said Blockbuster has been left out of the window discussion because it orders more product from the studios than Netflix and Redbox and pays a relatively high price for titles.<br />
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It’s unclear whether windowing at Netflix is imminent, but the rate at which the company is adding subscribers—it’s now at more than 11 million—is pushing studios into action.<br />
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“The economics with Netflix don’t work for us,” said another studio source. “There are several ways to change the outcome, one way is windowing, rev-share or acquisition price. But the economics need to change.”
			
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			<title>Report from Walmart</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I couldn't make it to Walmat this morning having to work. The wife did go and was able to pick up a 360 for 199.00 with a 100.00 gift card. There were about 40 people in line. She was about 30th. They had only 10 360 arcades available. She said they had a stack of Sony BR players. Up to her chest. She's about 5'2 :) <br />
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By the time she got to the register there were 2 360s left. The stack of BR players remained the same. Most people there were buying LCDs and Laptops. Any other reports out there?</div>

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			<title>Blu-Con 2.0 sales statistics and comments from Bill Hunt of The Digital Bits</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:29:51 GMT</pubDate>
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All right... let's talk Blu-Con 2.0. The event was held on Tuesday up at the Beverly Hilton, and it was at least 3 or 4 times bigger than last year's event - no doubt a reflection on the end of the format war and the format's growth. I moderated a panel discussion last year on BD special feature production at the event, and was set to do another this year with a trio of well known directors, but one (?) was never locked down, which caused another (McG) to flake, resulting the third (John Singleton) to flake as well. Ah well. Hey... I wasn't coordinating this stuff, and not doing the panel was actually nice, because it gave me the chance to really sit back and soak in all the day's information (and there was a LOT of information, as you'll soon see). <br />
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Very senior representatives were on hand from the home video divisions of all the major studios, as were the same from all the major consumer electronics manufacturers involved with the Blu-ray format. Also on hand were engineers, authoring, mastering and replication folk, content producers, industry analysts, select media - you name it. The number of these people whom I've gotten to know over the last decade is quite high, so in many ways it felt like old home week or some kind of DVD industry class reunion. I've always enjoyed that aspect of these events. <br />
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As I mentioned, a TON of interesting Blu-ray statistics, market research and &quot;state of the industry&quot; type information was revealed at the event, so I'm going to take up most of today's post to run it all down. Note that this information comes from a variety of sources: The DEG, CEA, specific retailers, a little from the BDA and much from various market analysis firms (InStat, Adams, etc). Where possible I've tried to note the specific source, but the info came pretty fast and furious. None of it was considered controversial or suspect, so I have no reason to doubt it.<br />
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Ready? Here goes... <br />
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Expect holiday Blu-ray player prices to be around $99 for profile 1.1 players and $149 for profile 2.0 players. SOME of the 2.0 may be as low as $99. That's considered to be the mass market price needed for sales to really start breaking out in 2010.<br />
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Blu-ray customer satisfaction: 90% of Blu-ray owners are very happy with the format and 85% would recommend it to a friend. <br />
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BD software sales are up 80% for the first three quarters of 2009 over the same timeframe last year. <br />
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For the biggest blockbuster titles, as much as 30% of all disc sales have been on Blu-ray. <br />
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Best Buy is expecting 95% U.S. household penetration of HDTVs by 2013. The CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) predicts the 60% penetration by the end of this year. <br />
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CEA: Despite popularity, DVRs are still only in about 30% of U.S. households. <br />
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Best Buy believes that software pricing and perception of value is going to be key in driving Blu-ray into the mass market. Adding DVD and Digital Copy to BD packages is good, but charging a premium for that is not.<br />
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Blu-ray player sales are growing faster than any other electronics category, and the initial 4-year period of Blu-ray player sales growth is matching or exceeding that of standard DVD during its first 4 years. <br />
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Best Buy expects as many as 10 million BD players to be in U.S. homes by the end of this year, and predictions are that 18.6 million will sell by the end of 2010. (Includes PS3). <br />
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Consumer awareness of Blu-ray is a key area the industry needs to work on. Best Buy research shows that only 32% of its consumers are familiar with Blu-ray this year, up from 29% last year and 19% in 2007. <br />
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The good news is that 60% of consumers who are familiar with Blu-ray have at least some intent to purchase the format in the next year, especially if the price is below $150. <br />
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Research indicates that Blu-ray players' backwards compatibility with DVD is a mixed blessing - most people who have purchased Blu-ray players still purchase at least 1/3rd of their movie titles on standard DVD. HOWEVER, as Blu-ray software prices drop, there's no reason to believe that Blu-ray won't be 100% of the mix at some point in the next few years. <br />
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Consumers consider some titles worth buying and owning on Blu-ray, while other titles are considered best as rentals or DVD purchases only (at the existing software price points). <br />
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Adams Media Research is confident that Blu-ray will eventually take over from DVD as the playback format of choice for home video, but Blu-ray sales will probably not completely offset DVD sales declines. <br />
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The Consumer Electronics Association has been tracking Blu-ray sales and says they're exactly where they expect them to be compared to the sales trends for DVD at this same point in that format's life. Year 4 was the breakout year for DVD, and we're just now going into Year 4 for Blu-ray. They believe the hardware price point - under $150 - is exactly where it needs to be for Blu-ray to break fully into the mass market. The expectation is that 2010 WILL be the breakout year, barring additional economic shocks. <br />
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According to CEA research, Blu-ray has made the Top Ten list of &quot;devices people want&quot; for the first time this year. <br />
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CEA: 2.7 million stand-alone Blu-ray players were sold in the U.S. last year. 3.7 have been sold so far this year, and 40-50% of all sales for the year happen in the 4th quarter, so CEA believes we could easily see the final total of BD stand-alone players sold in 2009 hit 6 or 7 million units. The number could go as high as 10 million, depending on supply and retailer aggressiveness.<br />
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CEA: PS3 sales were surpassed by stand-alone BD players for the first time in 2009. <br />
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CEA: Blu-ray players are still considered an early adopter product, but that's starting to change this year and there's tremendous growth potential. <br />
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Most Blu-ray players that are network-capable STILL aren't connected to the Internet. Convincing people to connect their players to the Net will continue to be a challenge, and must be addressed with wireless modems and a much easier process.<br />
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Consumer home video &quot;transactions&quot; were actually up 7% in the 3rd quarter of this year, but actual sales were down 2-3% (reflecting price discounting). <br />
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Universal figures that 10% of its customers for movie discs are major collectors, and they're still willing to buy - especially premium product like Blu-ray in collectible packaging. <br />
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During the studio panel, the studios could not talk in detail about pricing because of anti-trust considerations, BUT... all agreed that software pricing is going to start coming down soon reflecting pressure from both consumers and retailers to get Blu-ray software priced at a more mass market friendly level. This could start happening as soon as the holidays this year. <br />
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The rate of catalog releases on Blu-ray is going to increase in 2010 - particularly Universal suggested that they were going to get more aggressive with their catalog release plans on the format in the year ahead. <br />
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The growth trends in home video are going to be Blu-ray, VOD (Video on Demand) and EST (electronic transactions). Digital Copy will gradually evolve such that everyone will eventually have a &quot;locker in the cloud&quot; where they can store digital movie files they've purchased, and all of a person's consumer media devices will be able to &quot;reach up into that cloud&quot; to access the material. The &quot;locker&quot; will also provide security against data loss. But for the foreseeable future, none of this will have the quality level of Blu-ray and avid movie fans and collectors will continue to prefer the physical product. A key idea is to do more bundling, so when you purchase the Blu-ray you also get a DVD and some kind of portable digital version. <br />
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One &quot;rental&quot; idea that's being explored is the notion that you could purchase a digital file version from a retail kiosk - you could load it onto a flash drive right in the store and take it anywhere - but there are many technical and security-based hurdles still to overcome. <br />
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Regardless, physical product isn't going away. The future is going to be a combination of all three - Blu-ray, VOD and EST - and they should complement each other. <br />
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Overall home video sales were down in 2009 because of the recession, but not as bad as late 2008. There are signs that the market is slowly starting to recover. 2010 is expected to be still slightly down (but not as bad as 2009) or even flat. 2011 could start seeing stronger recovery. Studios are cautiously optimistic going into the holiday season. <br />
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Sony says that 9 million PS3s will be in consumer homes in the U.S. by the end of the year - 27 million worldwide. <br />
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1 million PS3 units were sold globally within 3 weeks Sony's price drop. <br />
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90% of PS3 owners watch Blu-ray movies, and 55% prefer Blu-ray over DVD. 39% of them always choose Blu-ray over DVD. <br />
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Sony is launching its largest advertising campaign ever for the PS3 in late November, which will strongly emphasize its Blu-ray playback capability. <br />
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Sony's PS3 streaming deal with Netflix will start this month. The monthly fee will be $8.99 per month (streaming + DVD rentals) or there will be a Blu-ray deal for $10.99 per month (streaming + Blu-ray rentals). <br />
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Sony and Netflix firmly believe that Blu-ray and streaming can coexist - they're largely different customer bases - collectors and enthusiasts versus renters and more casual movie viewers. <br />
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Sony is also launching a PSP-Go which will feature all digital/streaming viewing of movies. <br />
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Gaming industry market research shows that more Xbox 360 gamers are starting to purchase PS3s too at the new lower price. <br />
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Microsoft's Steve Ballmer hinted last week that a Blu-ray add-on drive for the Xbox 360 is on the way. <br />
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There are also strong rumors of a Blu-ray-equipped Nintendo Wii coming soon as well, but the consumer/industry value of this unknown. <br />
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According to the Blu-ray Disc Association, the final spec for 3D Blu-ray (possibly called 3D-BD or something like it) will be announced by the end of the year, likely in December. The spec WILL REQUIRE that all 3D capable displays (regardless of how they process the 3D-BD signal) will use the same signal. The spec will be DISPLAY FORMAT AGNOSTIC, meaning whether the display is Plasma or LCD based (or whether it uses active or passive glasses) won't matter. So if you buy a 3D-BD player, it will work will all properly marked 3D display technologies. What's more, all 3D-BD discs will be backwards compatible with current Blu-ray players, so the disc will include both a 3D version in the new spec AND a standard 2D version for current players - all in full 1080p. The 3D-BD spec will require full 1080p signal delivery for each eye - left and right. The intent is that there's only one shot to get it right, so make sure it's a standard that will work for a long time to come. <br />
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An important point to make: THERE IS NO 3D-BD spec format war. Every company in the industry is cooperating on the final spec. The only difference is that the DISPLAY technology each company uses may be different, but the 3D-BD spec will be used by ALL of them. <br />
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Manufacturers will introduce a variety of 3D signal processing technologies, some based on plasma and some on LCD. Some will use active shutter glasses and some will use passive or polarized glasses. These technologies will be on display at CES in January and the first gear (and 3D-BD movie titles) will start arriving by mid-2010. Some product announcements MAY be made at CES. The glasses needed will be sold with the DISPLAYS, not the players, because the type of glasses needed will be dependent on the display. <br />
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All of the CE manufacturers stressed that 3D display is here to stay. It's not just about Blu-ray - you'll see cable and satellite offerings, live sports broadcasts and even gaming in 3D. The next round of gaming consoles are likely to support 3D gaming. <br />
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There WILL be a premium for the 3D capability in terms of display/player pricing, but as with all new technologies, this will drop over time. <br />
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This is particularly interesting: Multiple sources at the event - including one Sony source - informed me that there's a possibility that the PS3 can be firmware-updated to make full 3D gaming and (possibly even) 3D Blu-ray playback possible. All you'd need to do is to buy the glasses as an accessory. This may be possible because of the power of the PS3's Cell processor. <br />
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As far as consumer interest in 3D, InStat reports that 10% of consumers are extremely interested in 3D, 15% are very interested, 39% are somewhat interested, 26% not very and only 10% not at all. The interest is very price sensitive however. <br />
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Panasonic had their Full 3D HD system on display at the event. Their initial plan is to sell the system as a &quot;3D theatre in a box&quot; - you'll get a large 3D-ready plasma display, a 3D-ready Blu-ray player and a set of 2 or 4 active shutter glasses with an IR transmitter (that sits on top of the TV) to sync the glasses with the display. (You'll likely be able to buy extra pairs of glasses if you need them). <br />
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My own observations on the Panasonic system: The 3D effect is VERY good (with only very minor ghosting), but the effect is MUCH more pronounced when there's an object in the close foreground (for example, when the camera is near the ground or sitting next to a foreground object). Compared to LCD projection, I'm not a fan of the black levels of plasma TV. I'd much rather view 3D HD via a front or rear projection system. Multiple viewers (including myself and TV Shows on DVD's Gord Lacey) found that the active shutter glasses induced a certain amount of eye strain on the viewer, though it might have been a problem with the system. Viewing for a few minutes wasn't a problem, but the feeling was that you'd have a pretty good headache watching an entire movie with them. The strain was more pronounced the more your eyes darted around the scene. Again, these are very initial impressions of a prototype - I'm going to withhold my judgments until I see more demos at CES, because the demos I saw last year at CES didn't have the eye strain issue. (I'm willing to believe it was just a technical problem with this particular demo.) <br />
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All studios are going to continue trying new BD-Live applications and technologies. While these have less appeal to early adopters of Blu-ray (who tend to be more movie-content interested), as Blu-ray moves into the mass market these features will have more consumer appeal. <br />
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Deluxe reports that 50 million BD discs will be connected to the Net via BD-Live by the end of 2009. <br />
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Sony reports that once people connect to the Net via BD-Live, 50% of them come back and reconnect at least once. <br />
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Studios report that Digital File/Copy redemption rates are in the strong double digits. Research shows that 50% of people using Digital File are watching on laptops or portable devices. Some are also using the Digital File as a &quot;backup&quot; copy to the Blu-ray, or for standard-def viewing situations. <br />
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I specifically asked about Digital File expiration dates: The studios responded that when they see download/authorization activity after the expire date has passed, they're simply extending the expire date indefinitely. Fox had this happen with Family Guy: Blue Harvest and their response was to just extended the date. <br />
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Managed Copy is still being readied and is expected to launch fully in the next few months. <br />
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Warner has noticed that Digital File redemption rates are slightly higher on standard BD/DVD releases (19%) versus special edition (more elaborate) BD/DVD releases (13%). <br />
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Okay... that's the most important information to come out of Blu-Con 2.0, based upon my extensive notes taken during the day's various panels. I'll have a little more to say about the event tomorrow, but what's above is the key information. PLEASE NOTE that I've tried my best to get all of the above information down accurately. To the degree that there are errors or contradictions, my apologies. Nobody's perfect, but I've tried my best to get it all down and convey it to you properly here. <br />
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That's a lot of information to be sure, so I'm going to let you guys chew on it overnight. ;)<br />
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Back tomorrow. Stay tuned... </div>
			
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The MPAA is asking the FCC to lift a 2003 ban against selectable output control (SOC), <b>which would have allowed service operators, such as cable companies, to turn off analog outputs on consumer electronics devices, only allowing digital plugs, such as HDMI, to be used for VOD, since those can handle copy protection.</b><br />
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The MPAA first made its petition to the FCC in mid-2008, saying the studios wanted to partner with “multi-channel video programming distributors” to potentially deliver movies to consumers between the theatrical and DVD windows.<br />
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“Such a valuable offering necessarily would require a higher level of protection against copyright theft than is currently permissible under the  Commission’s rules, and therefore requires a waiver of the current rule restricting the exercise of selectable output control,” the MPAA’s request reads.<br />
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But more than a dozen public interest groups, including Public Knowledge, the Digital Freedom Campaign, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Consumer Federation of America and the Media Access Project, are fighting the MPAA over the request, saying it puts control of privately owned consumer electronics into the hands of the movie industry, hurts TiVo and Slingbox owners, and leaves out consumers who own TVs without digital connections.<br />
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<b>“The MPAA has failed to provide a reason as to why the limited interests of its six member movie studios should be allowed to outweigh the interests of those consumers that will be forced to replace over 20 million television sets and countless other devices in order to view content that their current equipment is capable of displaying,” the Nov. 4 letter from the interest groups reads. “Furthermore, granting the waiver effectively would allow MPAA member companies to control the types of connections and features offered to all U.S. consumers, forcing consumer electronics designers and manufacturers to agree to almost any consumer-unfriendly conditions just to display SOC content.”<br />
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But the MPAA said Nov. 4 that granting its waiver request would be “an incredibly pro-consumer development.”<br />
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“As MPAA has detailed throughout this proceeding, grant of the waiver would for the first time allow millions of consumers to view high-value, high-definition theatrical films during an early release window that is not available today,” its letter reads. “MPAA has explained that release of this high-value content as part of an earlier window, especially with respect to movies released for home viewing close to or even during their initial theatrical run, necessarily requires the highest level of protection possible through use of SOC.”<br />
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The MPAA compared the public interest groups’ objections to TV stations objecting to broadcasting in color when most TV sets were still black and white.<br />
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“Indeed, whenever innovative technologies bring consumers new and better opportunities to enjoy media content, there is always a lag between when early adopters take advantage of these opportunities and when they become ubiquitous,” the MPAA argues.<br />
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</div>I really hope the MPAA losses this battle.  But it is just one more reason why people may be sticking to optical discs for the foreseeable future.</div>

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				NOV. 6 | DIGITAL: Come December, studios and anyone else releasing movies on Blu-ray Disc will be required to offer consumers a backup copy of every Blu-ray disc they buy.<br />
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But, because no Blu-ray players in the market yet have the capability to make the backups, it’ll be meaningless for consumers in the immediate future.So, the group that administers the provision is delaying some requirements for studios until the second quarter of next year.<br />
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The long-planned managed copy requirement goes into effect Dec. 4, as part of the final licensing agreement for AACS, the copy protection used on Blu-ray discs. The final agreement was approved in June by the Advanced Access Content System License Administrator, a consortium of studios, hardware manufacturers and technology companies that licenses the AACS copy protection used on BD. Up to now, studios and Blu-ray companies have been operating under an interim agreement.<br />
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Studios and other Blu-ray licensees must sign the final agreement to keep using Blu-ray. So far, 600 companies worldwide have done so, AACS-LA chair Michael Ayers said. Once content holders sign, they must make all discs ready for managed copy, essentially including a link on the disc directing the Blu-ray player to an authentication server.<br />
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The way managed copy is expected to work is that a consumer would insert their disc in a Blu-ray player or drive and the disc’s menu would include an option to make a managed copy or the consumer might have to press some buttons on their Blu-ray device to make a copy. Once they choose the option to make a copy, the Blu-ray player connects online to an authorization server, run by a studio, supplier or the AACS-LA. Discs are serialized, and the authentication server will determine if a copy is allowed.<br />
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However, until Blu-ray player manufacturers begin offering players with the ability to make full-resolution back-up copies, the managed copy addition on discs will be unnoticeable to consumers.<br />
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Manufacturers aren’t ever required to make players that offer managed copy, and so far, no manufacturer has announced plans to do so. However, backers say they expect some devices in the next year, with PC drives likely to be the first products to support managed copy.<br />
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In the meantime, that means Blu-ray discs will come out managed copy-ready without any player support.<br />
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That’s why the AACS-LA has pushed back the start date for some managed copy requirements from the first quarter to the second. Studios and content holders aren’t required to promote and label discs as managed copy-ready until March 31. That’s when the AACS-LA expects to have its authentication servers up and running, Ayers said.<br />
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Ayers said he hasn’t yet heard of any manufacturers announcing plans to include managed copy support, and AACS-LA is trying to make sure that studios aren’t required to promote managed copy before managed copy-capable devices are on the market.<br />
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Once devices are out, Blu-ray owners who have purchased discs made after Dec. 4 will already have managed copy-ready movies.<br />
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The hope, Ayers said, is once devices are in the market and studios start promoting it, consumers will have a “ready-made library of movies to take advantage of managed copy.”<br />
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Studios will be able to charge for those backups and offer more than one copy. They also may choose to offer managed copy rather than a digital copy, which is more expensive to add to a disc.<br />
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Managed copies can be burned to recordable Blu-ray or DVD discs, as a download to a Windows Media DRM-compatible portable player or hard drive, on a memory stick, SD card or as a bound copy, such as a digital copy file on the disc, though AACS-LA can approve other methods going forward.<br />
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It is possible that Walt Disney Studio’s Keychest and whatever format the Digital Entertainment Content Ecosystem chooses as its standard could be approved as managed copy backups, Ayers said. Neither Disney nor the DECE has approached AACS-LA about that, though the group “would be interested in them taking part,” he said.
			
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				Comcast subscribers can now sit back and enjoy Internet throttling at its finest.<br />
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And so it begins: the Internet is one step closer to a controlled environment thanks to Comcast. Based on information provided by a new FCC notice (PDF), Comcast has already implemented a new traffic throttling system into its broadband service. The new practice replaces the company's stricter traffic block of peer-to-peer uploading. However, Comcast said that there will still be traffic blocks, but only in extreme cases.<br />
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According to the document, Comcast's throttling with have two trigger conditions. The first is activated when using more than 70-percent of a subscriber's maximum upstream or upstream bandwidth in a 15 minute span. The second trigger kicks in when the neighborhood Cable Modem Termination System becomes severely congested and evidence indicates that the cause stems from the offending subscriber.<br />
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Internet throttling begins when either triggers are tripped, forcing bandwidth traffic to throttle down. The effect endures for at least 15 minutes, or until the average bandwidth utilization rate drops below 50-percent for 15 minutes. Comcast said that certain traffic won't be throttled: low-priority traffic will still zip through uncongested nodes at close-to-normal speeds.<br />
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To provide a better understanding, Comcast threw in a bus analogy to explain the two-tier traffic throttling scenario. &quot;If there is no congestion, packets from a user in a BE state should have little trouble getting on the bus when they arrive at the bus stop,&quot; the company said. &quot;If, on the other hand, there is congestion in a particular instance, the bus may become filled by packets in a PBE state before any BE packets can get on. In that situation, the BE packets would have to wait for the next bus that is not filled by PBE packets.&quot;
			
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				PHYSICAL: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Star Trek among the discounted titles<br />
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By Susanne Ault -- Video Business, 11/5/2009<br />
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NOV. 5 | PHYSICAL: Walmart.com is aggressively discounting a number of upcoming fourth-quarter DVD releases, including Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Star Trek and Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian, to just $10.<br />
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This price is valid for the site’s top 10 pre-order DVD movies, additionally including Angels &amp; Demons, Julie &amp; Julia, Four Christmases, G-Force, My Sister’s Keeper, Santa Buddies and Terminator: Salvation. It’s not clear if the tag will change once the movies street in November and December online and in stores.<br />
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Walmart.com also is promising free home delivery for both DVD and Blu-ray Disc titles, excluding box sets, starting today and lasting through the holiday season. <a href="http://www.walmart.com/movies" target="_blank">www.walmart.com/movies</a>.<br />
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The retailer said it is slashing prices on new release DVDs, which typically retail for four to five dollars more, to help families holiday shop during this difficult economic environment. Walmart earlier announced basement-level pricing on hot new release book titles.<br />
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&quot;This will be a challenging holiday season for our customers, and we recognize that more of them are choosing Walmart.com every day as the Web site with the lowest prices,&quot; said Raul Vazquez, Walmart.com's CEO. &quot;We're excited to offer our Top 10 pre-order DVD movies for just $10 as well as free home delivery on our entire assortment of DVD and Blu-ray titles. This is yet another example of how we continue to help our customers save money online at Walmart.com during the holidays and beyond.&quot;
			
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Thats the first time ever that Blu-ray has had 4 consecutive weeks over $25 M in revenue.


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				<div style="font-style:italic">Thats the first time ever that Blu-ray has had 4 consecutive weeks over $25 M in revenue.<br />
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	<hr /><code style="margin:0px" dir="ltr" style="text-align:left">Date&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; DVD&nbsp; &nbsp;  Blu-ray<br />
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10/04/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 166.44&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 21.81<br />
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10/11/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 156.82&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 32.70<br />
10/18/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 165.63&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25.09<br />
10/25/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 210.66&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 38.86<br />
11/01/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 170.30&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 26.52</code><hr />
</div>$123.17 M in last 4 weeks for Blu-ray<br />
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$144.98 M in last 5 weeks for Blu-ray already in the 4Q</div>
			
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</div>Great start to the 4Q for Blu-ray.<br />
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$123 M (last 4 weeks) is more than Blu-ray did for the first 17 weeks in 2008 (through 4/27/08).   <br />
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So the first month of 4Q 2009 has already exceeded the first 5 months of last year for Blu-ray sales.<br />
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$144.98 M (last 5 weeks)  is more than Blu-ray did for the first 20 weeks in 2008 (through 5/18/08).   <br />
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In the last 5 weeks DVD + Blu-ray revenue combined is also substantially up from last year as well.<br />
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<b> 2008 to 2009 YEAR TO YEAR WEEKLY REVENUE COMPARISON CALCULATIONS (Matched Weeks) </b><br />
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	<hr /><code style="margin:0px" dir="ltr" style="text-align:left"><u>Upcoming weeks 2009 Total Box Office Power (TBO) and percentage change from the TBO of the matching week in 2008 $M </u><br />
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11/08/09 TBO $255.41 - 26.60%&nbsp; (for 2009 Release <b>Total Box Office</b> Power for new DVD releases) <br />
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Date&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  DVD&nbsp; Blu-ray&nbsp; DVD+BD&nbsp; BD/(DVD+BD) BD/DVD*100&nbsp; BD% of<br />
<u>Week Ending&nbsp;  revenue revenue&nbsp; revenue&nbsp; revenue&nbsp; &nbsp; rev index&nbsp;  top 20 units&nbsp;  YTY Change</u><br />
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11/01/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 170.30&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <font color="Red">26.52</font>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 196.82&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <font color="red">13.47%</font>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15.57 <font color="red">13.93%</font>(BD<font color="red">+181.76%</font>&nbsp; +4.35% DVD TL +14.03% YTY)<br />
11/02/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 163.19&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  9.41&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 172.60&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  5.45%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  5.77&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  8% TBO $257.09 +104.27%&nbsp; <br />
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10/25/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 210.66&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <font color="red">38.86</font>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 249.52&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <font color="red">15.57%</font>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18.45 <font color="red">19.75%</font>(BD<font color="red">+184.88%</font> +23.95% DVD TL +35.91% YTY)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />
10/26/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 169.96&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 13.64&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 183.60&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  7.43%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  8.03&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12% TBO $405.08 +107.89%<br />
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10/18/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 165.63&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <font color="red">25.09</font>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 190.72&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <font color="red">13.16%</font>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15.15 <font color="red">16.47%</font>(BD <font color="red">+81.65%</font>&nbsp; -7.25% DVD TL&nbsp; -0.87% YTY)<br />
10/19/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 178.58&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 13.81&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 192.40&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  7.18%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  7.74&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11% TBO $257.09 -23.56%&nbsp; (for 2009 New Release Total Box Office Power for new DVD releases) <br />
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10/11/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 156.82&nbsp; <font color="red">32.70</font>&nbsp;  189.52&nbsp; <font color="red">17.25%</font>&nbsp; 20.85 <font color="red">29.44%</font>(BD<font color="red">+195.46%</font>&nbsp; -9.88% DVD TL&nbsp; -2.40% YTY) <br />
10/12/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 174.01&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11.07&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 185.08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  5.98%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  6.36&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10% TBO $66.13 -60.84%&nbsp; <br />
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10/04/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 166.44 <font color="red"> 21.81</font>&nbsp;  188.25&nbsp; <font color="red">11.59%</font>&nbsp; 13.10 <font color="red">14.85%</font>(BD <font color="red">+05.53%</font> -16.47% DVD TL -14.40% YTY)&nbsp; <br />
10/05/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 199.25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20.67&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 219.91&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  9.40%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10.37&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 13% TBO $203.51 -46.62% [/color][/b] revised by HMM in Oct 12 issus</code><hr />
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				BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — The home entertainment industry’s current malaise is 80% due to the economy, and the business should be back in growth mode by 2012. So say the home entertainment presidents of four of the six majors, speaking Nov. 3 at a Blu-Con 2.0 panel discussion moderated by Merrill Lynch senior analyst Jessica Reif Cohen.<br />
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David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, said that had the conference been held last year at this time, none of the presidents would have come.<br />
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They were too busy dealing with disaster.<br />
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“We were all too depressed,” he said. “We can’t hide from the fact that DVD was in decline 3% or 5%, but as soon as the recession hit, we all felt it in October of last year. Store traffic was down, and our sales fell.”<br />
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Now, “we’re already seeing signs of recovery,” Bishop said, as the three other panelists nodded in agreement. “There are some early titles in our business that are doing quite well. We were happy to see the results of Transformers 2.”
			
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By Susanne Ault -- Video Business, 11/3/2009<br />
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NOV. 3 | PHYSICAL: BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.—The home entertainment industry is on its way to recovery due in large part to Blu-ray Disc, according to retail and studio participants at Tuesday's Blu-Con conference here.<br />
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Best Buy is aggressively merchandising both Blu-ray players and titles, rallying around the products as a key expanding business. <b>In particular, Blu-ray players are this year's fastest-growing consumer electronics product, surging 112% in year-over-year sales, Mike Vitelli, executive VP of consumer operations group at Best Buy, said in a keynote. That tops the 106% and 85% jumps for popular ebooks and netbooks, respectively.</b><br />
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<b>Best Buy anticipates 18.6 million Blu-ray players (including PlayStation 3 videogame consoles and Blu-ray set-top players) to sell in 2010. That marks a significant hike from the 10 million units of Blu-ray hardware expected to sell this year.</b><br />
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<b>Blu-ray players currently make up 66% of Best Buy's home entertainment hardware category, compared to 35% two years ago. Blu-ray titles comprise 25% of the retailer's video software, up from 13% two years ago.</b><br />
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<b>&quot;This is why we are bullish about Blu-ray,&quot; said Vitelli.</b><br />
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Retail and studios acknowledge that consumers are still reeling from the recession, which is continuing to negatively impact the entire home entertainment business.<b> The momentum Blu-ray has enjoyed is not been enough to offset double-digit percentage slides of DVD. But when combining digital and Blu-ray gains, studios forecast the home entertainment business will return to flat to growing in 2012.<br />
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&quot;In 2012, we'll see the growth trend again,&quot; Mike Dunn, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment president, said in a panel moderated by analyst Merrill Lynch Jessica Reif-Cohen.<br />
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<b>Dunn echoed other studios in noting that consumer reluctance to spend money is thawing. As proof, he pointed to healthy sales of relatively high-priced title configurations, including the Blu-ray version of Fox's Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs.<br />
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&quot;Thirty-five percent of sales are in the premium SKUs: Blu-ray and the two-disc special edition,&quot; said Dunn. &quot;The consumer is there.&quot;</b><br />
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Beyond Blu-ray, video-on-demand is another rising area for studios, especially when offered day-and-date with the DVD/Blu-ray release.<br />
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<b>&quot;We see huge spikes in VOD activity&quot; with day-and-date delivery, Warner Home Video president Ron Sanders said in a panel. &quot;But it does take a while for the consumer to know its available on VOD&quot; that quickly.<br />
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Dunn said Fox sees VOD revenue climb 20% when titles are offered day-and-date versus the traditional window.<br />
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Things might be on the right track for home entertainment, but the business still faces obstacles, even with Blu-ray adoption.<br />
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<b>Best Buy's Vitelli complained that Blu-ray titles are too limited in use, confined mainly to the one household player in living rooms. He believes that digital copy helps boost Blu-ray use but dislikes that studios charge more when a copy is included on the discs.</b><br />
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&quot;It's like if you bought a cup of coffee, and they charged you a different price depending on where you drink it,&quot; said Vitelli. &quot;That's not going to go over so well.&quot;<br />
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Best Buy thinks the industry needs to do a better job of educating the public about the advantages of Blu-ray. Store research shows that 68% of today's customers are unfamiliar with the high-definition format.</b><br />
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&quot;People in stores still ask our employees about why they need a Blu-ray player,&quot; Vitelli said. <b>&quot;The situation [with Blu-ray] is improving, but we're still not there.&quot;</b>
			
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				NOV. 3 | PHYSICAL: BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.—Academy Award-winning filmmaker Martin Scorsese called Blu-ray Disc a &quot;very, very strong change for the better&quot; in home entertainment, in a keynote address at Blu-con 2.0 today here.<br />
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Appearing via live satellite from the Directors Guild in New York, Scorsese spoke as a filmmaker, a movie lover and a film preservationist.<br />
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<b>&quot;Blu-ray is as close as you're going to get to the theatrical experience at home,&quot; Scorsese said. He noted that &quot;when we mixed Shine a Light, we knew it would be transferred just that way to the home.&quot;</b><br />
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Scorsese discussed the new wave of film restoration and preservation being done across studios in order to bring classic films in the most pristine presentation possible to Blu-ray.<br />
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<b>&quot;I'm very excited and optimistic as a filmmaker and a film lover that Blu-ray is going to extend the life of film,&quot; he said.</b><br />
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His favorite film to watch on Blu-ray is John Ford's The Searchers.</b><br />
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Scorsese films available or coming to Blu-ray include Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, The Last Waltz, Gangs of New York, The Aviator, The Departed and Shine a Light.
			
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</div>As a movie lover, I definitely agree.  Blu-Ray for me is often even better than the theatrical presentation I see at the theaters.  I am excited to see what the future offers on home video.</div>

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				Best Buy sells a lot of DVDs, but it is taking another step to get <b>ready for the day when that business shifts online.</b><br />
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<b>The giant electronics retailer on Tuesday is announcing a partnership with Sonic Solutions‘ Roxio CinemaNow service to deliver first-run DVDs streamed online directly to consumers.</b><br />
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The idea, said Chris Homeister, senior vice president for entertainment at Best Buy, is to let consumers pay once for a DVD and then eventually be able to play it on any device: television, Blu-ray disc player, personal computer, handheld media player or smartphone.<br />
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The new service will be a Best Buy-branded offering, available starting early next year. “We’re going into this business in a big way,” Mr. Homeister said. “Our goal is to have broad availability in the marketplace, across multiple devices.”<br />
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<b>Last month, Best Buy announced a deal with Netflix to stream its movie library to Best Buy’s Insignia-branded Blu-ray disc players</b>. And in September, Blockbuster announced it was working with Sonic to offer Blockbuster’s streaming movie service on consumer electronic devices starting with TiVo DVRs and Samsung high-definition televisions and Blu-ray players.<br />
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<b>“All these guys — Best Buy, Blockbuster and Netflix — realize is that the era of the boxed DVD is about to end,” said Tim Bajarin, president of Creative Strategies,</b> a technology consulting firm. “They all have to make the transition to the next generation of movie distribution, <b>streaming directly to the consumer.”</b><br />
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Best Buy, analysts say, has the clout to press both movie studios and consumer electronics companies to adopt a one-time payment model and ensure that movies play on many devices. And the company has the ability to market such a service aggressively to consumers.<br />
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Sonic, based in Novato, Calif., is making a transition of its own. It is best known for its DVD-authoring software tools used by the studios. But Sonic has invested heavily in becoming a cloud-based service as the back end for the secure digital distribution of movies. <b>“This whole industry is moving away from discs to electronic distribution directly to consumer devices,”</b> said David Habiger, chief executive of Sonic.<br />
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Last year, Sonic acquired CinemaNow, an online movie distributor, from a group of investors including Cisco Systems and the movie studio Lionsgate. CinemaNow, founded in 1999, was endorsed by the Hollywood studios as an alternative to illegally downloaded movies over the Internet, but the service never became popular with consumers.
			
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			<title>WSJ: Blu-ray Player Makers Embrace Online Movie Delivery</title>
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				Some of the biggest companies backing the Blu-ray format for high-definition movies are <b>hedging their bets by introducing players that can also show Internet video, which is making surprising inroads in the home-entertainment market.</b><br />
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Electronics retailers and manufacturers including Best Buy Co., Samsung Electronics America Inc. and LG Electronics USA Inc. are selling Blu-ray disc players that tap into movies from online rental companies.<b> The devices provide an alternative to pay-per-view cable services</b>. <br />
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The hybrid movie players tap a growing library of online movies and television shows from Amazon.com Inc., which screens movies for as little as 99 cents, and from Netflix Inc., which allows unlimited movie streaming for $8.99 a month. <br />
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Blu-ray supporters fought a bruising and expensive battle over competing formats a few years ago. Now, <b>to salvage those investments, they're incorporating a feature, Internet video, that threatens to make the players irrelevant over time but allows them to sell the disc players as multi-purpose machines this holiday. </b><br />
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Best Buy recently disclosed a partnership with Netflix to offer streaming video through its private-label Insignia players, and last week slashed the price of one older Insignia model by $50 to $99, promising that it will soon be made Netflix capable through a software patch.<br />
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U.S. movie disc purchases dropped 13.8% during the third-quarter of 2009 as digital distribution such as Internet streaming and cable pay-per-view rose 18%, according to Digital Entertainment Group, an industry association. Blu-ray disc sales are up 80% year-to-date, according to The Nielsen Co., but <b>remain a fraction of overall disc sales</b>. Nielsen estimates DVD sales are off 14%.<br />
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Sony Corp., which led the Blu-ray charge and licenses the technology, insists consumers won't abandon the format. <br />
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&quot;The streaming services are complimentary,&quot; said Lexine Wong, senior executive vice-president of worldwide marketing for Sony Pictures Home Entertainment. Customers of such services &quot;don't get to add it to your collection of movies,&quot; she said. <br />
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<b>&quot;The horse is out the gate and there's no going back. Consumers want Internet-enabled devices,&quot; said Reid Sullivan, a vice president at Samsung Electronics America, which also makes Blu-ray players that stream movies. &quot;We can upgrade the software on the players to offer more content or new kinds of services.&quot;</b><br />
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Mike Vitelli, Best Buy's chief merchant, said <b>hybrid players are proving popular because consumers favor the convenience of instantly ordering Internet video</b>, even if image quality is not on par with Blu-ray discs. <br />
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<b>Roughly 80% of current Blu-ray players are already equipped with Internet connections.</b> That feature makes the players inexpensive to adapt with software for streaming video. <br />
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<b>&quot;It is absolutely going to be a bigger category,&quot; Mr. Vitelli said. &quot;It is not a material add-on to the price, and the benefits of the feature are enormous.</b><br />
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Ever since Blu-ray won the backing of Hollywood studios last year over the rival HD-DVD technology, electronics makers have predicted that the sharper and more lifelike <b>Blu-ray format would eventually supplant the DVD</b>. <br />
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<b>But digital downloads and streaming are emerging faster than the industry expected; as recently as 2008, product makers predicted it would be years before there were mainstream alternatives to renting or buying high-def movies on Blu-ray discs.</b><br />
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Retailers and electronics manufacturers <b>are scrambling </b>to entice recession-scarred consumers to switch to the new format now, <b>before the trend toward digitization gains further steam</b>. Analysts expect big-name brands will sell versions of these hybrid players for about $150 apiece on the day after Thanksgiving. <br />
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Netflix said it expects to add more subscribers in the fourth quarter, partly because the growth of these hybrid players is expanding its base of potential customers. <br />
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Its third quarter results were boosted by a deal with Microsoft Corp. that allowed consumers to stream movies via the Xbox 360 videogame console. Netflix said it expects to add up to 1.2 million more subscribers in the fourth quarter, thanks in part to a similar partnership with Sony on its PlayStation 3 console. <br />
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&quot;Streaming offers easy access to a large variety of content but you trade picture quality for it,&quot; said Andy Parsons, vice president of new product planning at Pioneer Electronics USA Inc. Mr. Parsons, also U.S. promotional chair for the Blu-Ray Disc Association, added, &quot;Eventually there will be a transition to a completely online world but it's going to take a very long time.&quot;
			
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</div><i>&quot;The horse is out the gate and there's no going back. Consumers want Internet-enabled devices&quot;</i> - Samsung<br />
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CE manufacturers and retailers are using online movie delivery to sell blu-ray players. Apparently they just don't sell very well on their own.<br />
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Pretty soon they will be known as &quot;set-top boxes that happen to include a blu-ray drive&quot;, instead of &quot;blu-ray players that can download movies&quot;.</div>

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				Paramount Digital Entertainment has signed a deal to deliver select movies on Kingston USB drives and SD cards.<br />
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The announcement comes after the studio quietly debuted Transformers and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen on Kingston USB drives.<br />
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Paramount offered the first Transformers on a USB drive given away to buyers of Dell netbooks in June, a Kingston spokesman said. Revenge of the Fallen, released last month, is being sold on Transformers-branded USB drives, available for $29.99 through Office Max stores nationwide.<br />
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To watch the movie, consumers plug the drive into their computer, and the USB drive must be connected to the computer for the movie to play, a Kingston spokesman said. <b>The company is telling customers to save it as a backup on their computer in case they accidentally erase it from the USB drive while saving other things to the drive.</b><br />
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Kingston plans to sell other movies from Paramount on the drives and eventually on SD cards.<br />
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“As more and more movies are viewed on computers and other portable devices, having a relationship with Kingston will become increasingly important to Paramount for years to come,” PDE executive VP and general manager Alex Carloss said in a statement announcing the deal.<br />
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Blu-ray in France is covering for DVDs attrition this year.  Thats interesting as the general consensus is that Blu-ray adoption is lagging in Europe compared to North America, so thats a good sign for international Blu-ray sales.<br />
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Posted November 2, 2009 04:00 AM by Juan Calonge<br />
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 According to data gathered by GFK and released by the Centre National du Cinéma (CNC), <b>revenues from sale of Blu-ray software in France from January to September 2009 were 64.42 million euros, which represents a growth of 127.3% over the same period in 2008. <br />
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<b>BD more than made up for the loss in DVD – overall revenue from physical video supports was up 1.6% year-on-year.</b> <br />
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<b>Market share for Blu-ray is now 7.5% of total packaged-media revenue. Units sold were 2.98 million, up 156.1% year-on-year.</b>
			
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				Blu-ray in France from January to September 2009 figures!<br />
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The NCC, National Center of Cinematography and the moving image, has released its latest barometer video made with GFK. The barometer is now the first 9 months of the year 2009 and allows us to learn more about the sales of high definition discs on the French market.<br />
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The good news is that consumer spending on video. They saw an increase of 1.6% over the first 9 months of the previous year. Support high definition ie Blu-Ray has captured 7.5% of the market with 64.42 million euros cons still 799.64 million euros for the DVD.<br />
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In the first 9 months of the year, 2.98 million high definition media have been sold. This represents sales only 3.4% of the market since 84.85 million DVDs have been sold. By cons, Blu-Ray has still experienced an increase of 156.1% year on year in terms of units sold.<br />
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The average price of a Blu-ray sold the unit falls to 24.2 € for the first nine months 2009 against € 18.44 for the average price of a DVD.
			
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				Apple isn't kidding. AppleTV really is a hobby<br />
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Steve Jobs famously touts AppleTV as &quot;just a hobby&quot;.  This all started at the 2007 AllthingD conference where he said:<br />
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    “We’re in two businesses today, we’ll very shortly be in three, and a hobby”, Apple’s CEO Steve Jobs told Walt Mossberg in an on-stage interview at yesterday’s D: conference. The first two are computers and digital music (iPod/iTunes), and the third will be the cell phone market which Apple will enter next month with the launch of the iPhone. And the hobby? The company’s recently released set-top-box, the AppleTV.<br />
    “The reason I call it a hobby is a lot of people have tried and failed to make it a business. It’s a business that’s hundreds of thousands of units per year but it hasn’t crested to be millions of units per year, but I think if we improve things we can crack that.”<br />
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    Bill Fearnley – FTN Midwest: [...] Steve, how are you thinking about Apple TV now? [...] If you look at the digital living room category and you look at the upcoming year of 2009, how do you look at the digital living room opportunity and how it relates to Apple TV?<br />
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    Steven P. Jobs: Well again, I think the whole category is still a hobby right now. I don’t think anybody has succeeded at it and actually the experimentation has slowed down. A lot of the early companies that were trying things have faded away, so I’d have to say that given the economic conditions, given the venture capital outlooks and stuff, I continue to believe it will be a hobby in 2009.<br />
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Today Apple released the new version of the AppleTV OS version 3.  The last major release was two years ago and 2.3, the latest point release, was released almost a year ago.  <b>Over the past year Apple has only added the following:<br />
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    iTunes Extras, Genius Mixes and Internet radio.  The interface is also improved.<br />
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I have a few hobbies.  I like to go mountain biking.  I do it on the weekends sometimes if the weather is OK.  I also am a pilot and consider flying a hobby.  But I haven't done it in over a year...maybe two. <br />
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<b>Apple means it when they say AppleTV is a hobby.  They've done about a week's work in the past year or two on the AppleTV.   All of the improvements they did were just brought over from iTunes.</b><br />
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That is to say, AppleTV isn't actively being worked on.  If some of their engineers have some extra/down time for a week or so then they get to do improvements? <br />
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My theory is that Apple has had all of their best talent in the past two years working round the clock on the Tablet - so the AppleTV gets neglected.<br />
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<b>And that leaves AppleTV pretty anemic.   It doesn't play content off of a share, it doesn't play Avi, MKV, etc. files, it doesn't do 1080P. And it certainly won't do Hulu or Netflix for fear of eating into theu iTunes revenues.<br />
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Some think it might be the industry that is holding Apple back, and it might be, but why have other competitors done so much better? <br />
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I'd rather have a Seagate FreeAgent theater at under $100 that plays all kinds of formats and plays videos off of a NAS at 1080P, something AppleTV can't.  Other companies make siilar products.<br />
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Or even better yet, get a Mac Mini from a few years back and throw Plex on it.  Plex is by far the best media center on the Mac and does a lot of the things AppleTV doesn't.<br />
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Although the interface isn't amazing, Boxee is another option for getting a quality media center on your Mac or AppleTV.<br />
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I<b>n any case, Apple's AppleTV hobby should be approcahed as one.  One that may or may not have a future.  </b>For the same $229 price, you can get much more interesting alternatives that browse NAS shares, play all formats, and are starting to include services like Hulu and Netflix.
			
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</div>So odd to me that we see all these analyst and blog sites stating that optical media is on it's death bed and the move should be towards downloads and streaming, yet the company that should be most poised to benefit from this move, Apple with it's iTunes platform, doesn't seem to feel the same way.  We read stories where Apple has neglected adding Blu-Ray to their lineup, yet they also seem to really be neglecting AppleTV.  It certainly feels like an afterthought.  I have played around with Boxee on my Mac Mini and it is okay, but I keep waiting for Apple to address some of the issues mentioned in this thread, and many more.  I really think Apple could do something special if they would simply add Blu-Ray to their AppleTV, and also address the shortcomings that AppleTV has now.  And do it for around $200-299.</div>

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				In the latest issue of HMM Richard Doherty a Media analyist with Envisioneering Group says &quot; BD +, Unlike AACS, Which suffered a partial Hack Last Year, Won't likely be breached for 10 years.&quot; Doherty said &quot;and if so The damage would effect one film and one player.&quot;<br />
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			<description>Yes! You read it right,Blu-Ray,stoled from HD-DVD.You see HD-DVD had a little idea,called,HD-DVD combo disc. Most people hated this idea,but I liked...</description>
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Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen<br />
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<b>As expected, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, the year’s No. 1 movie, gave the home entertainment business a badly needed boost last week, selling and renting as though it was still the halcyon days of the early 2000s, when consumer spending on DVD was going up by the double digits year after year.<br />
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The Paramount Home Entertainment release hit stores Oct. 20 and within a week had become the top-selling home entertainment release of the year, with first-week sales of 7.5 million units, according to Home Media Magazine market research.<br />
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The sequel also became the biggest-selling Blu-ray Disc release of 2009, with first-week sales of 1.2 million units.<br />
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Transformers also takes the cake for day-one sales, having moved 2 million discs its first day in stores, 500,000 of them on the high-definition Blu-ray Disc format.<br />
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“It’s certainly an encouraging sign for the business,” said veteran industry analyst Tom Adams. <br />
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<font color="Red">He added that the strong Blu-ray Disc sales count is particularly good news, “because if the business is going to turn around, it’s going to be because Blu-ray starts performing, and this is certainly an indicator that Blu-ray is starting to play its role and help stabilize the business.”</font><br />
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Transformers easily debuted at No. 1 on all three charts: the Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales chart, Home Media Magazine’s rental chart and the Nielsen VideoScan Blu-ray Disc sales chart.</b><br />
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Walt Disney Studios’ The Proposal, the previous week’s top seller and renter, slipped to No. 2, with Paramount/DreamWorks’ Monsters vs. Aliens the week’s No. 3 seller and Universal Studios’ Land of the Lost the No. 3 renter.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>OK, since numerous threads have gone off topic discussing HD DVRs and their use to HD movie fans, I thought it might make an interesting thread of it's own.<br />
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The purpose of this thread is not directed to call out a single member, rather a discussion of that specific strategy, and similar alternatives.  If you want to post to this thread, please stick to the concepts, and don't direct attacks at fellow members.<br />
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To start this out, I'd like to thank Taffy for posting about his collection.  I too have recently acquired a Dish Network HD DVR and added a hard drive (1.5GB).  In just a few months, I've managed to archive almost HD 100 films.  These fall into roughly four categories:  HD movies not available on Blu-ray, movies on BD, but not worth buying, movies on BD that were once in my Blockbuster queue buy I'd rather watch for free than rent, HD movies not on BD yet, but for comparison purposes only.  <br />
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<b>HD Movies not on BD yet:</b>  This category includes such movies as THX1138, American Graffiti, Ghost Story, Black Sabbath, most of the Universal monster movies, Rob Roy, They Live, and many others.  Someday they're bound to hit BD, but they aren't there yet.<br />
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<b>Movies on BD, but Not Worth Buying:</b>  This is a highly personal category.  For me, it includes The Incredible Hulk, Kung Fu Panda (just for the bass!), The Dark Knight, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Jurassic Park, and a few others.  If I see these for the right price on BD (less than $10), I may buy them.  Until then, having them on an external hard drive is just fine.<br />
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<b>Movies That Were In My BB Queue, but I'd Rather Watch for Free:</b>  This is a pretty big list.  Right now, I've got over 75 discs in that queue, but more and more of them fall to the bottom to make way for new releases.  Of those, some are showing up on the cable channels, so recording them from there let's me take them off the queue, and they're available for instant viewing.  Samples include:  Shoot 'Em Up, Death Race, Burn After Reading, Doomsday, Nim's Island, Changeling, Sunshine (someone ruined the ending for me last year), Speed Racer 10,000 B.C.  Most of these titles had gotten mediocre reviews, so seeing them in BD glory wasn't an overriding concern.  Would watching Babylon A.D. on BD have made it a better movie?  I'm guessing not.<br />
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<b>HD Movies Stored Only for Comparison:</b>  For me, this is a very short list.  The only titles in this category so far are the Star Wars Trilogy.  This would be a day one BD purchase for me, but that could be years away.  Until then, if I want an idea of how good the movies will look, I can check out segments from the Spike TV airings.  Sigh, they're not in OAR, they've got bugs, and are filled with commercials.  All of which is too distracting to watch all the way through.  But, if I want a quick taste, or want to rewatch a short segment, they're readily available for watching.  I sure wish I would have had this set up back when Cinemax showed them all in OAR.<br />
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Is this a perfect solution?  Not at all.  But, as a viewing option, it's worth every penny.  The satellite equipment was free, and I'd be subscribing anyway.  The hard drive was about $120, and it cost about $40 to enable the feature on my DVR.  The movies are part of my normal programming package, and Cinemax is only $.o1 for a year.  Sadly, that program is ending, and I'll have to make a decision when it goes back to it's normal price.<br />
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Does it equal the quality of BD?  No, since most movies average 4-6 GB, but most are pretty good.  I just watched The Last Man on Earth this weekend.  Of all the adaptations of Richard Matheson's I Am Legend, I liked this version the best.  It's an old movie, but it was shown in it's original aspect ratio, and the MGM bug was in the lower black bar.  It looked really, really good, with no evidence of macro-blocking, even on my projection screen.  There was one commercial break, right in the middle of the movie, which was a minor distraction.  We usually take a break in the middle of the movie to rid ourselves of our empty popcorn containers and refill on beverages, so it wasn't a big deal to us.<br />
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Other channels vary in quality.  Most of Cinimax's movies are not in OAR, which is a minus, but occasionally some are correct.  Action movies will occasionally suffer from macro-blocking and pixelation.  It isn't hard to tell that these are not perfect, but in many cases, they're much better than the DVD.  Given the recent arguments over BDs such as Gladiator, better than the DVD is a good enough benchmark for many BD enthusiasts.  I'm not among them, but at a price that approaches free, I'm willing to settle.<br />
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Sound will also vary.  For the older movies, it's not that much of an issue.  On newer films, some may be able to hear a difference.  I haven't updated my preamp processor to HDMI yet, so I'm not getting lossless from my PS3 yet anyway.  Having heard Kung Fu Panda on both BD and Dish, I can't say there was any difference.  The bass was amazing on both.  On the other hand, The Dark Knight seemed to sound better on Blu.<br />
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One last bonus, HDNet is premiering movies before they even hit the theaters.  While the titles may not be to everyone's taste, the quality is usually very good, and hey, it's premiering for free!  This month it was Ong Bak 2, and The House of the Devil is being shown this Wednesday.<br />
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Sorry for the length of this thread, but there's a lot to discuss about this topic.  As more catalog BDs are released, this may become less attractive, but for now, I consider this an invaluable option for movie viewing.<br />
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Scott</div>

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