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High-Def Digest Forums - Game Consoles Smackdown http://forums.highdefdigest.com PS3, Xbox 360 or Wii? Weigh in here. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:35:43 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/images/misc/rss.jpg High-Def Digest Forums - Game Consoles Smackdown http://forums.highdefdigest.com Nintendo Wii still the most wanted game system for X-Mas http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95820-nintendo-wii-still-most-wanted-game-system-x-mas.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:40:30 GMT http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-360-And-PS3-Will-Get-Owned-Twice-Over-By-Wii-Holiday-2009-21229.html http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbo...009-21229.html ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown jlspec http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95820-nintendo-wii-still-most-wanted-game-system-x-mas.html <![CDATA[Sony 'looking into' subscription-based PSN services for new revenue stream]]> http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95760-sony-looking-into-subscription-based-psn-services-new-revenue-stream.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:24:57 GMT Interesting, what will SDF say to... Interesting, what will SDF say to this....

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/19/so...evenue-stream/

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Whoa, hey. Slow your roll, sir. We know seeing the terms "PSN" and "subscription" in the same headline might have set off a few red flags for you, but let's look at this logically. Earlier today, Sony released the presentation report from its media and investor conference, one portion of which focused on the future profitability of its gaming platform. One element of the company's strategy is turning a larger profit on PlayStation Network -- and yes, according to the report, Sony's planning to obtain a "new revenue stream from subscription."

Now, this doesn't necessarily mean the currently free online service will start charging its users at some point during this next year. It's far more likely that the line in the report was referring to new subscription-based features, such as the PSP rental service or one of SOE's upcoming MMOs.

We contacted Sony about the reference to PSN subscriptions, and a representative responded, saying, "We have not made any formal announcements on a subscription based service. We're looking into a variety of options." It sounds like the company has yet to set any subscription plans in stone -- or perhaps Sony's just now gauging the community's reaction to the concept of a pay-to-play PSN. If that's the case, the comments on this post could likely provide an adequate barometer for how this news would be received. But that's just our hunch ...

Hmm, thats not exactly a denial is it, going by SDF rules and what MS said about raising live prices....

You can see the pdf here
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info...0911presen.pdf ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown CorruptedDragon http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95760-sony-looking-into-subscription-based-psn-services-new-revenue-stream.html Sony Outlines Gaming Turnaround, Sees PS3 Profitability in 2011 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95753-sony-outlines-gaming-turnaround-sees-ps3-profitability-2011-a.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:47:33 GMT the delaystation looks like it's going to delay making profits until 2011.

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Sony's gaming division should start seeing profitability by the tail end of their 2010 fiscal year through cost reduction and "operational efficiencies", Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer told a gathering of press and analysts today.

"Our work is already bearing fruit," Howard said, according to the Associated Press. "We still have more work to do."

After its second year of losses in the current fiscal year, which ends March 2010, Stringer said that Sony's target is to turnaround their game business and have it be profitable by March 2011.

The company plans to use a two-prong strategy to achieve that goal. Sony believes they can improve profitability through cost reduction, becoming more efficient internally and getting internal divisions to work better together.

Sony also sees a growth in hardware, software and network services pushing sales up in the gaming division.

Stringer says that Sony's Playstation 3 has five key advatages: The incorporation of a Blu-ray player, the Playstation Network, PSP linkage, upcoming 3D games and their recently announced motion controller.

The Motion control, he said, uses the Playstation Eye camera, can track depth, position and motion by "sphere, gyro and acceleration sensors" and vibration feedback and "rendition by light."

http://kotaku.com/5408318/sony-outli...bility-in-2011 ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown miDnIghtEr http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95753-sony-outlines-gaming-turnaround-sees-ps3-profitability-2011-a.html Sony To Upgrade PS3 Consoles To 3D http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95752-sony-upgrade-ps3-consoles-3d.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:53 GMT i think this is cool, and look forward to checking some stuff out.. but i don't know about having to buy a new tv..... but let me guess.. SDF.. this is cool, and not a gimmick... NATAL= nothing to get excited about/gimmick.

i'm excited for 3d. i want hologram games too.

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In a presentation detailing Sony's plans to become profitable by the end of 2010, Sony revealed plans to upgrade Playstation 3 consoles with full 3D support.

The news supports previous reports on Sony's 3D PlayStation 3 strategy, suggesting that a firmware upgrade would introduce the capability to existing consoles. Not only does Sony plan on upgrading the console to support 3D, but release games in 3D as well in order to take advantage of the enhanced capabilities.

Of course, 3D games and 3D televisions would go hand-in-hand, so adding the capability to the PlayStation 3 would definitely help drive at least a few television sales.

Would you purchase a new television to support 3D gaming, or is Sony seeing things?

http://kotaku.com/5408308/sony-to-up...consoles-to-3d ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown miDnIghtEr http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95752-sony-upgrade-ps3-consoles-3d.html <![CDATA[60 per cent of Xbox 360s have broken, 34% in 360's bought SINCE Jan 2008]]> http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95728-60-per-cent-xbox-360s-have-broken-34-360s-bought-since-jan-2008-a.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:28:13 GMT It's the smackdown that just keeps giving....

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Sixty per cent of Xbox 360s have kicked the red-ringed bucket, compared to 16 per cent of PS3s and just 6 per cent of Wiis, according to our survey on the reliability of games consoles in the UK.

CNET UK commissioned the survey last month -- and the results don't reflect well on the Microsoft console. Some 1,128 UK-based console owners responded, of whom 562 owned Xbox 360s, 473 owned PS3s and 591 had Wiis (some owned more than one).

Of those Xbox owners who have bought their Xbox since January 2008, 34 per cent report that their Xboxes have broken -- still double the lifetime failure rate of the PS3. Microsoft introduced new components in late 2007 and early 2008, when Bill Gates boasted of the Xbox's newfound "incredible reliability". Our survey shows that while the console has improved, it's still far from reaching Gates' goal of being the "most reliable video game box out there".

Only 25 per cent of disappointed 360 owners had owned the console for more than 18 months before it broke, with 47 per cent reporting a failure inside a year. Seventy two per cent returned their Xbox to Microsoft, who extended the 360's warranty to three years after the console's problems became widely known. Fifteen per cent sought their own solution, such as repairing it themselves or giving up and throwing it under a bed. One miserable gamer reported, "I can't afford to get (the Xbox 360) fixed as it is out of warranty, so it sits in the spare room all lonely."

Many 360 owners report the console breaking more than once. Of those whose console has broken at least once, 32 per cent say it has broken twice, and 19 per cent say it has broken three times or more. One person said their 360 "was repaired six times before (being) refunded by Microsoft".

Of those who have bought a 360 in the last two years, only for it to break, 29 per cent say it has broken more than once.

This was a self-selecting survey, so it doesn't represent a random sample of console owners. It's likely that people whose consoles have had problems are more motivated to fill out the survey, but the results are still interesting when you compare the Xbox 360 to its competitors.

The console makers are not in the habit of releasing such information, so this kind of survey is the best guess we have. We think the sample size and spread of console ownership do give it some credence, however, and it tallies with the anecdotal experience of many gamers we've heard from.

The survey did not distinguish between the Xbox 360 Arcade and Elite versions, which are very similar, or the PS3 and PS3 Slim, which has only just been introduced.

A spokesman for Microsoft said, "The vast majority of Xbox 360 owners are having an outstanding experience with their Xbox 360, and they invest in our platform more than any other.

"On July 5, 2007 Microsoft acknowledged an unacceptable number of repairs and took unprecedented steps to take care of all of our customers, providing a three year extended warranty on consoles experiencing the three flashing red lights error. We have continued to make improvements to the console and make customer service a top priority should someone require repair."

Has your console broken? How did you get it fixed -- or is it pining away on top of a wardrobe? Did you receive good customer service? Tell us your experiences in the comments.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/0,...9304288,00.htm ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown ArronC07 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95728-60-per-cent-xbox-360s-have-broken-34-360s-bought-since-jan-2008-a.html Assassins Creed 2 - 360 vs PS3 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95694-assassins-creed-2-360-vs-ps3.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:38:09 GMT Another multi-platform comparison and suprise suprise the 360 wins again. http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16415 A very strange blurry thing going on... Another multi-platform comparison and suprise suprise the 360 wins again.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16415

A very strange blurry thing going on with the PS3 version, not keen on it. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Arthur Hucksake http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95694-assassins-creed-2-360-vs-ps3.html Braid review scores, what do you think? http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95533-braid-review-scores-what-do-you-think.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:57:06 GMT

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IGN reviews:
pppps3
8.5 Presentation
Surreal, complex and unique. Although Blow's story is occasionally heavy-handed, the overall execution is admirable.
9.0 Graphics
Beautiful art that works well with the other components of Braid.
9.0 Sound
Some extremely atmospheric tunes provide a perfect ambience for the gameplay experience.
8.5 Gameplay
Rich, intelligent puzzles that involve the manipulation of time. Frustrating, but still rewarding.
7.0 Lasting Appeal
Although there are secrets to uncover after your first playthrough, Braid is a bit limited in terms of replay value, as puzzles have fairly exact solutions.

8.5
Great OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

xxxxbox 360

9.0 Presentation
The world plays out like a twisted fairy tale and even the hub world feels like a piece of a larger puzzle.
8.5 Graphics
It's like playing through a watercolor painting. Haunting, beautiful, and magical.
8.0 Sound
The music is enchanting, which is important, since there is little in the way of other sounds.
9.0 Gameplay
Highly imaginative puzzles that will give you brain a workout. This is unlike any other game on Xbox 360.
6.0 Lasting Appeal
Great minds will be able to get through fairly quickly. Though there is a Speed Run option after beating Braid, there is little incentive to come back for seconds.
8.8
Great OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

It almost seems as if IGN's rating system has a textbook penalty for when a game is released later it scores lower overall. What do you think? ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown kyzer1978 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95533-braid-review-scores-what-do-you-think.html Best PS3 vs 360 You tube video http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95519-best-ps3-vs-360-you-tube-video.html Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:19:56 GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeemtS1jII Well maybe not, but its amusing. Comments? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeemtS1jII

Well maybe not, but its amusing. Comments? ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown murphjp http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95519-best-ps3-vs-360-you-tube-video.html Microsoft Banning more than just Pirates http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95513-microsoft-banning-more-than-just-pirates.html Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:06:25 GMT ---Quote--- So by now we have all heard that Microsoft has recently been banning consoles from connecting to the Xbox Live Service for violating its...

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So by now we have all heard that Microsoft has recently been banning consoles from connecting to the Xbox Live Service for violating its terms of service. In Microsofts efforts to combat piracy, the banhammer has cracked as many as 1,000,000 users. I think we can effectively call this a ban nuking.

With many warnings leading up to the bans, by Major Nelson and Stephen Toulouse. Pirates in turn acted surprised when the bans actually hit them, going as far as threatening the Director Stephen Toulouse’s life and family. I found that the modifications to the box were made through a modified firmware that lets the dvd drive in your xbox 360 play backup games. No longer required to have experience with soldering, a monkey could literally modify an xbox to play pirated games with a couple of clicks on the mouse. Now, I say they acted surprised because the firmware that the drive was modified to use was supposedly undetectable. With games using some kind of stealth inturn with the firmware to go undetected by Microsoft while playing on Xbox Live.

These bannings have been quite widespread, and at 1,000,000 users that is roughly 5% of the Xbox Live subscriber base. But are all those being banned, pirates? I spoke with a representative from Microsoft briefly at Major Nelson.com and learned some interesting information. Regardless of whether you modify your xbox to pirate games, or just modify it to look cooler, perform better, or last longer, these actions are against the terms of service agreement that you accept when prompted to on the Xbox Live login.

So legit Xbox Users please keep this in mind, when your Xbox 360 gets the RROD a quick fix by you is not the answer. Not unless you want to be eligible for a banning. From what I gathered if the warranty seal is broken on your xbox 360 you are in violation of TOS and will be banned from Xbox Live if this is discovered.

Has someone you know been banned for something other than playing a pirated game?

http://burn360.net/featured/microsoft-banning-pirates/

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Thousands of Xbox 360 owners who have been cut off from Microsoft's Xbox Live service will have to buy a new console if they want to play online again.

Microsoft told BBC News that banned machines will be permanently barred and "unable to connect to Xbox Live".

A message displayed on affected consoles said there was "no recourse for terms of use violations".

Microsoft has barred as many as 1m gamers from Xbox live for modifying their consoles to play pirated games.

"Users of banned Xbox consoles can recover their profile to another, unmodified Xbox 360 console to resume their Live service," the firm told BBC News.

"The banned console will be unable to connect to Xbox Live."

However, modified consoles will still work offline.

'No recourse'

Microsoft said barring gamers was part of an ongoing drive to curb piracy.

But a statement from them suggests this latest wave was timed to prevent people from playing pirated versions of the widely-anticipated Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.

We believe that even one modified console on the system is one too many
Microsoft

"We can assure you that if an Xbox Live member follows the Xbox Live terms of use, purchased a retail copy of Modern Warfare 2 and played the game on an unmodified Xbox 360, no action will be taken," the firm said.

Microsoft said that it had banned a "small percentage" of the 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide.

Many gamers modify their consoles by installing new chips or software that allows them to run unofficial - but not always illegal - programs and games.

Close-up of Xbox 360 Elite, Microsoft

Xbox gamer on being cut off
Read more of your reactions

Some BBC News website readers claimed that they had "modded" their consoles to allow them to make back-ups of games that they had already bought.

"Discs are very fragile things and some users like to have their games backed up," said Donald Glass of Aberdeen.

"After all you will have paid £40 for a new disc. It is my opinion that once you buy a disc you should be allowed to do whatever you want with the media as long as you do not break copyright laws."

Microsoft has not said how it was able to determine which gamers to disconnect.

"We do not reveal specifics, but can say that all consoles have been verified to have violated the terms of use," the firm said in a statement.

It said that gamers who had been barred were using their modified consoles to "play illegally pirated games".

"We believe that even one modified console on the system is one too many".

Industry figures suggest that piracy may cost the video game industry as much as £750m a year.

Reports have speculated that new "mods" could soon be on the market that allow gamers to get round the blocks.

My comment is that i am glad that i do not own x360. i think there is something seriously wrong here. if i had x360 it would be my property, they (microsoft) have no right for intrusion like that. i understand why they ban users who play pirated games but this stuff above i do not understand at all. i think that if i bought x360 i could do whatever i want with x360. i think microsoft just will loose customer base because of that. they are asking for a class action lawsuit. if i was one of the legit x360 i would definietly consider suing. i am wondering if microsoft is sending rebates back to affected people because of that.

another speculation Microsoft just wants to increase montly sales because ps3 is doing so well. i guess rrod replacement program is not enough to increase total # of x360 sold :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown bbc20000 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95513-microsoft-banning-more-than-just-pirates.html October NPD http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95503-october-npd.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:54:05 GMT i'm silly . ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown maley http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95503-october-npd.html The Official October NPD 2009 Thread: Half Tucked Edition http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95501-official-october-npd-2009-thread-half-tucked-edition.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:33:05 GMT ---Quote--- PlayStation 2 117.8K PlayStation 3 320.6K PSP 174.6K Xbox 360 249.7K Wii 506.9K Nintendo DS 457.6K

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PlayStation 2 117.8K
PlayStation 3 320.6K
PSP 174.6K
Xbox 360 249.7K
Wii 506.9K
Nintendo DS 457.6K

UNCHARTED 2: AMONG THIEVES (PS3; Oct-09) 537,000
WII FIT PLUS* (WII; Oct-09) 441,000
BORDERLANDS (360; Oct-09) 418,000
WII SPORTS RESORT* (WII; Jul-09) 314,000
NBA 2K10* (360; Oct-09) 311,000
HALO 3: ODST (360; Sep-09) 271,000
NBA 2K10* (PS3; Oct-09) 213,000
FORZA MOTORSPORT 3 (360; Oct-09) 175,000
KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 DAYS (NDS; Sep-09) 169,000
FIFA SOCCER 10 (360; Oct-09) 156,000

Great for Borderlands, good for Uncharted 2 and FM3, but to be honest, I was hoping for a little bit better.

Also, from Geoff Keighley

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FYI, Brutal Legend sold 215.4K across PS3 and Xbox 360 versions.

]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Onslaught X http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95501-official-october-npd-2009-thread-half-tucked-edition.html Confirmed: Facebook, Gamercard colors in next PS3 FW update http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95417-confirmed-facebook-gamercard-colors-next-ps3-fw-update.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:03:34 GMT http://scrawlfx.com/2009/11/rumor-facebook-gamercard-colors-in-next-ps3-fw-update http://uk.playstation.com/media/244960/image.jpg http://uk.playstati... http://scrawlfx.com/2009/11/rumor-fa...-ps3-fw-update
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Original: Facebook integration, the ability to change your gamercard colors and more are coming to PlayStation 3, if these images from an anonymous tipster are to be believed.

The leaked images show the ability to manage your Facebook in your PlayStation Network account settings, changing the color of your PlayStation Network gamercard and a new, more sufficient way of looking through your photo

The links look legit. Netflix now facebook, how long until twitter. Good to see though and free is always in my price range. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Stranger Danger http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95417-confirmed-facebook-gamercard-colors-next-ps3-fw-update.html October NPD analyst Predictions http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95373-october-npd-analyst-predictions.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:03:04 GMT http://ps3.ign.com/articles/104/1044037p1.html

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Below is EEDAR's predicted console breakdown for October:

Wii – 635,000
PS3 – 320,000
Xbox 360 – 280,000
PS2 – 100,000
PSP – 150,000
DS – 450,000

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter predicted a similar top 10, with Uncharted 2 being a top seller, but adds Borderlands will move around 400,000 units for October while Brutal Legend moves close to 300,000. Here's Pachter's predicted console breakdown for October.

Wii – 555,000
PS3 – 380,000
Xbox 360 - 340,000
PS2 – 110,000
DS – 465,000

That's the "experts" predictions, what about people on here. Anyone on here have any crazy ratio predictions for this month? ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown murphjp http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95373-october-npd-analyst-predictions.html COD MW2 PS3vs360 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95326-cod-mw2-ps3vs360.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:02:22 GMT http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16236 ---Quote--- Once again, thanks to the fine folks at Play N Trade (Lake Mary), the Lens of Truth got its hands... http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16236

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Once again, thanks to the fine folks at Play N Trade (Lake Mary), the Lens of Truth got its hands on one of the most anticipated games this year. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. If you are in the market for this game, sit back and get your trigger finger ready because this is one war you’re not going to want to miss! Hooraah!

But before we begin, let us reiterate the purpose of our comparisons. Our comparisons are tailored to the multi-console owner, the ones who want to know what is different between each version. Differences such as load times and small graphic variations might not mean much to some, but to others it may. It is our job to report the differences, no matter how small, present the data and determine a victor. No matter what the verdict is on a game, we will have some gamers who disagree with us. That is fine by us; at least we provided the facts and ultimately it is up to the consumer to decide which version to purchase.

Graphics: Technically speaking, both games look very close in the graphics department. Like the previous CoD 4 and CoD: WaW, both versions of CoD: MW2 run at sub 720p resolution but support 2x anti-aliasing to compensate. While the graphics are great, Infinity Ward never really pushed the visual envelope. Some textures looked great, while others were less than stellar. But it was nice to see that they were able to maintain the texture quality across both platforms, which you’ll notice in the rollovers. However, like most of our Head2Heads, there were some minor differences between ports and they are worth mentioning. The shadow quality on both versions of CoD: MW2 are pretty jaggy, but the Xbox 360 version softens the stair stepping effect by essentially anti-aliasing the shadow (higher samples). Another difference we noticed, off the bat, was that the PlayStation 3 version was missing an overbright (glare/bloom) effect throughout. We mostly noticed this effect on metal objects like the guns the characters were holding or areas that had intense specular or bright surfaces. Now before you yell “victory!” you might want to let us explain. Indeed, the effect is cool, but in all actuality you’ll only notice it when there isn’t a battle going on. For instance: you’re in the middle of a fire fight, bullets flying everywhere, things blowing up all around, do you think the bloom effect is going to be noticeable? Probably not. On the other hand, in the snow levels the effect can be seen almost everywhere and helps emphasize the whiteout conditions. Now these might not be significant differences, but none the less they are technical differences. We at the Lens of Truth have to acknowledge these variations no matter how small or insignificant they may seem; we feel that gamers deserve to know. Moving on.

Performance: Both versions of CoD: MW2 perform well, but neither version is perfect. As you will see in our analysis video, when things get hectic on the screen the frame rate starts to take a dive south. The frame rate range in some segments of the game are drastically different, starting at 60fps and dropping down to around the 30fps mark. The good thing is that the game very rarely drops below 30fps so you don’t feel the plummet as much. However, the PlayStation 3 version consistently had the lower frame rate when the screen was packed with action. It also appears that both versions of the game suffer performance loss when there is a large amount of alpha smoke on the screen. Just like the previous CoD entries this generation, Infinity Ward decided to v-lock the game. Good choice, as it is refreshing to be able to fire a weapon and not have the screen split into two due to frame tearing. Overall, we were very impressed with the performance Infinity Ward was able to squeeze out of their engine. Listed below are the averages for both versions of CoD: MW2:

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PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 51.88 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 55.04
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

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PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 47.00 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 54.45
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 3:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 50.17 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 57.53
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 4:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 59.45 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 59.96
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 5:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 58.78 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 59.60
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 6:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 60.00 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 59.98
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 7:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 59.10 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 59.98
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 8:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 58.42 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 59.65
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Clip 9:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 59.11 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 59.91
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Global:
PlayStation 3 Avg. FPS: 53.73 / Xbox 360 Avg. FPS: 57.31
PlayStation 3 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0% / Xbox 360 Avg. Frame Tear: 0.0%

Loading: CoD: MW2 manages to mask the load times during each of the mission briefings and story narrations. So, if you are simply playing through the game the load times will not affect the gameplay experience. But, if you decide to replay a mission and want to skip the narrations, the Xbox 360 version has the quicker load times. On average, the PlayStation 3 takes 27 seconds to load while the Xbox 360 takes only 19 seconds. Also note that the PlayStation 3 version does not have a mandatory install.

Load Time 1: PlayStation 3 – 14 sec / Xbox 360 – 14 sec
Load Time 2: PlayStation 3 – 40 sec / Xbox 360 – 25 sec
Load Time 3: PlayStation 3 – 30 sec / Xbox 360 – 20 sec
Load Time 4: PlayStation 3 – 26 sec / Xbox 360 – 18 sec

Conclusion: Regardless of which version of CoD: MW2 you decide to buy, you will not be disappointed. Infinity Ward has done a great job of matching the quality of the game between the platforms. But like every Head2Head we need to judge the versions against one another. And even though the differences are minor, the Xbox 360 version is the definitive version to purchase. Small additions like the overbright (bloom/glare) system just helps make the visuals pop and not to mention the softer shadows and better overall fps. While the load times are masked, if you like to replay levels the added speed is welcome. So technically speaking the Xbox 360 wins, but seriously, it‘s a great game and it really doesn’t matter which system you purchase it for. For most the real decision comes down to what version your friends are getting. Oscar Mike!

So while nearly everything is identical on these games the 360 version outperforms in all categories by a slim margin. xxxxbox 360 ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Arctic_Darkness http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95326-cod-mw2-ps3vs360.html <![CDATA[Ubisoft demands high Assasin's Creed 2 score ??]]> http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95286-ubisoft-demands-high-assasins-creed-2-score.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:27:02 GMT ---Quote--- We hear about these situations far too much, where a publisher is accused of attempting to broker a guaranteed favorable review from a...

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We hear about these situations far too much, where a publisher is accused of attempting to broker a guaranteed favorable review from a press outlet. The latest to face such allegations is Ubisoft, having been named and shamed by German magazine Computer Bild Spiele for demanding a high score for Assassin's Creed 2. SCANDAL!

"Our reviews are tough, but fair. We will not give up our independent scores for the sake of a timely review," explains the magazine in its latest issue. "This holds true for Assassin’s Creed 2. The publisher asked us to guarantee the score 'sehr gut,' otherwise we would not receive a review copy, thus we will publish our review in next month’s issue. We’d be more than glad to give the game a ’sehr gut’, but only if it deserves it."

Sehr Gut is essentially Computer Bild Spiele's version of an A-grade, meaning that Ubisoft was only willing to trade a game copy for an incredibly positive review. Of course, asking an outlet to guarantee something like that before they've played the game is asking them to trade in every ounce of integrity they've worked to build, and if these allegations are true, it's a shame that Ubisoft felt the need to barter against someone's self respect like that.

In any case, Computer Bild Spiele has probably ensured that it won't be getting any more games from Ubisoft. Good for them, and let shame rain down on any writer that actually agreed to such shenanigan

http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-d...--154456.phtml ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown mrkiller http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95286-ubisoft-demands-high-assasins-creed-2-score.html Randy Pitchford (Gearbox) to Valve: Stop being a bunch of whiny fanboys. http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95190-randy-pitchford-gearbox-valve-stop-being-bunch-whiny-fanboys.html Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:02:08 GMT http://kotaku.com/5399454/gearbox-bo...g-like-fanboys

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While not directly addressing Chet Faliszek's slap at PlayStation 3, the Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford - no stranger to stirring s—t with Valve - has taken a poke at the Left 4 Dead developer's posture toward Sony.

Pitchford, speaking to Official PlayStation Magazine, called Valve's posture toward Sony - specifically as expressed by Doug Lombardi - similar to that of fanboys'.

"Doug Lombardi had to take a swipe at the PS3 again, and I thought it was foolish," Pitchford told OPM, according to AnalogHype.

I read it the same way I read fanboys," he added. "Like there's a guy who bought the Sony platform and he's a Sony guy, so he decides he's going to spend a certain percentage of his time bashing Microsoft. And there's a guy on Microsoft doing the same thing. Those guys are childish and narrow minded; It's the same kind of thing.

Pitchford wasn't done there. He also spoke of an "underlying sleaziness" in how Valve has treated the PS3 version of The Orange Box, relative to its support for the Xbox 360 version of Team Fortress 2.

I'm actually kind of mad at Doug because with the Orange Box, he said the 360 and PC versions are the good ones and the PS3 version is like the stepchild because some other developer made it. Well you Valve don't really think that, because look what you've done on the PC side. You've supported that, you've added all this content to Team Fortress 2, and you've left us hanging. It's hard to accept that genuinely, because I know the business, I know you guys make half the money on the PS3 version because you've got other fingers in the pie, and other developers getting a cut. It benefits you if nobody buys that, and only buys the PC version, because you make the most money. There's this underlying sleaziness.

Not that this settles anything but, there you go, equal time for PS3, albeit from a surrogate, in a great three-way Valve/Gearbox/Sony pissing contest.

For the record, we have inquiries into Gearbox regarding the accuracy of these quotes, and any clarification the studio might want to make.

]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Indy_aka_Rex http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95190-randy-pitchford-gearbox-valve-stop-being-bunch-whiny-fanboys.html <![CDATA[Valve says XBL "head and shoulders" above PSN]]> http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95142-valve-says-xbl-head-shoulders-above-psn.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:01:53 GMT This is why people (like myself) have little issue paying $39.99-$49.99 for Live. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=226831 I... This is why people (like myself) have little issue paying $39.99-$49.99 for Live.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=226831

I agree with what he is saying. PSN is like a Chevy, It will get you where you want to go. Live is like a Mercedes, it gets you there in style. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Slayer http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95142-valve-says-xbl-head-shoulders-above-psn.html Sony saved by success of Wii http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95053-sony-saved-success-wii.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:50:28 GMT Momentum cake...
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/05/an...ss-of-the-wii/

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If you haven't heard, the PlayStation Wii is so successful, it pretty much prints money. Wait, Sony didn't make the Wii? Then how did the market analysts of DFC Intelligence come to the conclusion that "Sony was saved by the success of the Wii?"

According to DFC, the Wii's mainstream appeal forced Microsoft into a successful, but not entirely dominant position. "The main danger Sony faced was that the Xbox 360 would become embedded as the system of choice. Instead consumers flocked to the Nintendo Wii. The Xbox 360 had solid sales, but they have not been enough to give Microsoft anywhere near a breakout market position," the report explains.

Should enthusiasm for the Wii wane this holiday season, the recent price drop, coupled with with impending release of God of War III, finally positions the PS3 as a viable choice for mainstream consumers, the report notes. EEDAR's Jesse Divnich agrees, pointing out that Sony can finally utilize its leverage from the previous generation. "People who purchase a PS2 are more likely to purchase a PS3 in the future. Consumers, believe it or not, are pretty loyal."

Three years after the launch of the PS3, Blu-ray is also finally becoming a marketable feature for mainstream consumers, the report argues. "This holiday season Blu-ray movies are finally getting a major focus at retail ... Blu-ray clearly now becomes a strong selling point for the PlayStation 3." Undoubtedly, SCEA will create an ad that focuses on this aspect of the system that "only does everything."

While DFC's report comes off as incredibly bullish, it's understandable to see why there's some doubt over Sony's ability to capitalize on the moment. Let's not forget, this is a company that managed to fall from first to last place in the course of a year. "The cards are in Sony's favor and now is the time to make the most of them ... Now is the time for Sony to shine ... or else."

PS3 = System of choice...mmm sounds so good doesnt it.:p ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown HDDRuss http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/95053-sony-saved-success-wii.html $99 Xbox 360? http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94975-99-xbox-360-a.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:57:32 GMT I heard WalMart is going to be offering one? True? Might make an ok X-mas gift for some one... I heard WalMart is going to be offering one? True? Might make an ok X-mas gift for some one... ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Favelle http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94975-99-xbox-360-a.html If true - looks like November NPD is going to the 360 - http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94947-if-true-looks-like-november-npd-going-360-a.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:16:43 GMT Helluva deal for the arcade, if true - http://kotaku.com/5395950/xbox-360-with-100-card-for-200-this-weekend Partly posting for the samckdown, and... Helluva deal for the arcade, if true -

http://kotaku.com/5395950/xbox-360-w...0-this-weekend

Partly posting for the samckdown, and partly posting so all know about the deal. I am picking up an extra for my daughter as an xmas gift. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Pyrelis http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94947-if-true-looks-like-november-npd-going-360-a.html <![CDATA[PSN Home "a question of priority"]]> http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94859-psn-home-question-priority.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:07:58 GMT http://www.t3.com/news/ps3s-home-not...tr=T3-Main-RSS

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PS3's Home not "a priority" for Sony any more
It looks like Sony's about to call time on its experiment in creating a 3D virtual world for PS3 gamers

PlayStation Home, Sony's forever-in-the-making social user-interface thing for PS3 that never really took off, could be about to get the chop - or at least given less resources from now on.

Home's development boss Peter Edward told attendees at the London Games Conference earlier this week the 3D fun palace is "Not a priority right now" for the gaming giant, which sounds like the big cheeses are finally giving up on the dream of Home taking off in a significant way.

"We've proved there is a market out there and we’ve got a lot of people that spend a lot of time in [Home]," he bravely pointed out, making it seem like Home wasn't all just one huge, massively expensive nightmare for Sony after all.

It'll be a bit of a shame if it does disappear. While Home always looked like it was going to be little more than a way for game publishers to flog extremely unnecessary digital tat to gamers, the potential to bring PS3 owners together - something it's not managed with anything like the same degree of success as Microsoft's Xbox Live - was there.

And even though most people's main memories of Home will be of wandering around empty rooms asking girl avatars if they are really girls then logging off when they said "no", you can't argue with the brilliance of being able to run around a nightclub wearing a Dizzee Rascal face mask.

Looks like one of their big "hopes" didn't work out quite the way they wanted huh? Maybe all that money slipping away from them is starting to hurt some of their development. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown CorruptedDragon http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94859-psn-home-question-priority.html XBL party chat to become a little less awesome http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94815-xbl-party-chat-become-little-less-awesome.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:02:29 GMT Seems the party chat feature is going to change a bit in regards to mp... Seems the party chat feature is going to change a bit in regards to mp games.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1...pcoming-titles

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Do you like to use the party chat option on your Xbox 360? Well, if you do, you may soon find yourself being forced out of using that option. Microsoft appears to be offering developers the option to negate the private chat option the Xbox 360 offers. Currently, players have the option of forming a private chat with players, but that will soon change.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 will force players to decide whether or not they’ll play the game and join the game chat, or choose to stay in a private chat and not play in the multiplayer game. With titles like Gears of War, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War, and many other online based multiplayer titles, the private chat feature became a way of telling other players of enemy locations after being killed.

Such a feature shouldn’t detract from the overall online experience much, but there will surely be some gamers who won’t like the type of feature being implemented. With some gamers only using the private chat to talk to friends while playing different games, this will likely pose a problem for them.

Thoughts? ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown HuskerGuy http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94815-xbl-party-chat-become-little-less-awesome.html Wii game review smackdown.... http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94813-wii-game-review-smackdown.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:49:30 GMT Something isn't right..

Discuss. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown MA16v3 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94813-wii-game-review-smackdown.html <![CDATA[Sony's game division loses $654 million]]> http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94704-sonys-game-division-loses-654-million.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:50:04 GMT ---Quote--- When Sony axed the price of the PS3 by $100 in mid-August, everyone expected PS3 sales to skyrocket - and sky rocket they did, according...

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When Sony axed the price of the PS3 by $100 in mid-August, everyone expected PS3 sales to skyrocket - and sky rocket they did, according to Sony. In their latest financial reports, Sony has announced that they've sold 3.2 million PS3s during Q2 at the new $299 price point, while the PS3 as a whole has sold 27 million units to date worldwide. Their data suggests they also outsold the 360 worldwide during Q2, and nearly matched the Wii at 2.1 and 3.5 million units respectively.

Overall though, Sony's game division lost $654 million, despite the increase in hardware sold. This is likely due to the fact that, with the introduction of the 120GB SKU, they are once again selling the console at a loss. Sony also pointed at dwindling PS2 sales, falling Viao sales, and the appreciation of the Japanese yen as reasons for the loss. Source

PlayStation division sales down, losses deepen

Sony PS division has lost $4.7 billion since launching PS3

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FY 2007: -$1,970,923,859
FY 2008: -$1,079,994,103
FY 2009: -$577,207,240
FY 10Q1: -$413,541,667
FY 10Q2: -$653,333,333

]]> Game Consoles Smackdown hdinred http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94704-sonys-game-division-loses-654-million.html Nintendo profits sink on declining console sales, weak game selection http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94634-nintendo-profits-sink-declining-console-sales-weak-game-selection.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:35:13 GMT http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/nintendo-profits-sink-on-declining-console-sales-w ---Quote--- Image:... http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/29/n...onsole-sales-w

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Oh how the mighty have fallen. Nintendo just announced that its interim net profit was cut by more than half to ¥69.49 billion (about $770 million), from ¥144.83 billion last year at this time -- figures that won't be helped by the cheaper Wii price tag announced at the end of September. Speaking of which, Nintendo sold only 5.75 million Wii consoles from April to September (down 43% from last year) and cut its full year sales forecast for the April 09 to March 2010 period to 20 million units, down from an expected 26 million. DS sales were also off 15% from last year and we doubt that a bigger screen on the new DSi LL model will change that dramatically.

Looks like Wii's momentum has hit a wall. I guess catering mainly to the casual market does have its drawbacks.

Time for Microsoft and Sony to shine?

(One thing that does concern me is both Microsoft and Sony want a piece of the shrinking Wii pie with Natal and the PS Wand) ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown chaz_uk http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94634-nintendo-profits-sink-declining-console-sales-weak-game-selection.html Wii 2 specs leaked, Blu-ray enabled and 1080p support? http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94606-wii-2-specs-leaked-blu-ray-enabled-1080p-support.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:40:29 GMT QUOTE:

Exclusive: Wii 2 specs leaked, Blu-ray enabled and 1080p support?
We've just received some exclusive news and specs on the Wii 2 via Logic-Sunrise.com) (though a Nintendo of France marketing employee). The leaked specs denote the Wii 2 will get a Blu-ray drive (mainly to stop piracy), but will also support 1080P for games as well as movies. The new system is due out during the third quarter of next year and there will be the option to trade in old Wii's!

More details below (translated from French):

This is a nice exclusive we have here at MaxConsole courtesy of Artik from www.Logic-sunrise.com on the Wii 2. The actual information is said to have been leaked from an internal source of the marketing Nintendo France Service. Unlucky for them, this kind of information should stay internal, but that's not our philosophy.

- The Wii2 system will feature a Blu-Ray drive with a secondary aim of stopping piracy.
- 1080P and lower resolutions will be supported, for blu-ray movies and games.
- The release date is scheduled for third quarter of 2010.
- The release will be worldwide and on the same day for all countries.
- A scheme will be available in which it is possible to trade in the original Wii for a cheaper price on the new Wii 2.

Moreover, Nintendo wants to make a worlwide annoucement, only one month before release date. Huge publicity and Viral Marketing will be utilized to create the Buzz. Official pictures are not yet available, and more specs will be released in due course.

Why do we believe it at all ?

* Artik from Logic-Sunrise.com has regularly provided news to MaxConsole and has a lot of 'insider' contacts.

* Nintendo has suggested that it's time they embraced high definition technology for the Wii and Blu-ray has firmly established itself. So a Wii 2 with Blu-ray support does make sense.

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http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=37744 ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Master X http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94606-wii-2-specs-leaked-blu-ray-enabled-1080p-support.html playstation 2 Eyetoy is Project Natal http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94589-playstation-2-eyetoy-project-natal.html Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:22:45 GMT Interesting stuff.I guess Sony had similar technology loooooooooong time ago. They just did not use it. Shame.... Interesting stuff.I guess Sony had similar technology loooooooooong time ago. They just did not use it. Shame.

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-4...?CT=1#Comments ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown bbc20000 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94589-playstation-2-eyetoy-project-natal.html God of War III Demo Will Be Included with District 9 http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94562-god-war-iii-demo-will-included-district-9-a.html Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:39:27 GMT

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If you're interested in checking out God of War 3 early, but don't want to play the first two God of Wars again, Sony corporate synergy has a solution for you! The Blu-Ray release of District 9, due December 29 (a bit later than the God of War Collection), will include a playable demo of God of War 3. Once you've played through the demo, a making-of featurette will be unlocked (for the game, not the movie).

While District 9 and God of War 3 are united in that they're both things that people presumably want to see, it strikes us as odd that this rather random collection is the first Blu-ray/game demo pairing for SCEA. The Watchmen movie and game actually related to one another in some way, and they came on separate discs.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/28/go...ict-9-blu-ray/ ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Liqwid http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94562-god-war-iii-demo-will-included-district-9-a.html Brutal Legend DLC - Free for two weeks on PSN vs $ XBL http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94494-brutal-legend-dlc-free-two-weeks-psn-vs-xbl.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:17:41 GMT 2 new multiplayer maps coming out in map pack during the 1st week of November, 11-3 on XBL and 11-5 on PSN. Before folks go XBL getting it 2 days... 2 new multiplayer maps coming out in map pack during the 1st week of November, 11-3 on XBL and 11-5 on PSN. Before folks go XBL getting it 2 days earlier blah blah blah... Thursday are the day PSN updates. It'll be free on the PSN but you will need to pony up 400 MS Points for the same maps on XBL.

Players also get the Blade of Ormagöden if they DL the map pack.

Guess we know now how MS makes a profit :) They screw over their customers for a cash grab.

note: The free period on the PSN is for 2 weeks... free from 11-5 till the 11-18, then it'll be for $5. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown BettiePage http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94494-brutal-legend-dlc-free-two-weeks-psn-vs-xbl.html Netflix on PS3 official. Oh Damn. http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94413-netflix-ps3-official-oh-damn.html Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:12:45 GMT As per Facebook straight from the horse. http://bit.ly/3nmof5 Holy Bawls. As per Facebook straight from the horse.

http://bit.ly/3nmof5

Holy Bawls. ]]> Game Consoles Smackdown Averry http://forums.highdefdigest.com/game-consoles-smackdown/94413-netflix-ps3-official-oh-damn.html