CES: BD - No New Hardware Plans or Specifics

[g.k.]

I think he's referring to the teaser trailers for Blu-Ray from 1 year ago showing Batman and Matrix.

Sorry Blu its not going to happen.

The guys at HD-DVD have been releasing everything as promised, and guess what they actually play!

... some of them even all the way to the end!

[actinic]

Soooo, she means the "Lionsgate's War" - the one that's out now - which *I* have - that one?

I mean, the one that doesn't have any BD-Live feature listing on the disc?? (Just 1.1 stuff...)

According to an article written on the 6th of December on blu-ray(dot)com, War is supposed to have a networked game: www(dot)blu-ray(dot)com/news/?id=733

But maybe it doesn't. Alternatively, perhaps the option to play the game is simply not offered because it doesn't detect a Profile 2.0 player environment? Similar to how the 1.1 PiP features are not offered in the disc menu when playing Resident Evil on a Profile 1.0 player.

[Mick]

With some exceptions, it's still probably safe to say that a number of the major BD manufacturers aren't planning on giving new high-def hardware specifics during the show that officially kicks off in Las Vegas on Jan. 7. For example, one is pushing back any new formal announcements until the spring.

Why spend all that time, effort and money to introduce new hardware when your competitor (HD DVD) is intending to body slam you? As the Fox guy says, CES 2008 is war over.

[Arkadin]

Look, I love Marantz but PLEASE! another $2000 Blu-Ray player is not going to really help the mainstream cause I don't believe.

[ccphilly1984]

That's odd. So you're saying the BDP-1400 is dual format? Any more lies?
Hehehe...


Um, you do realize Toshiba, the only company actually making HD DVD hardware has also not announced anything. But hey, I like your way of thinking! By your rationale, HD DVD won't be doing anything at CES. Thanks for the heads up!

1. no, they said samsung is going df only because they canceled the two other bd players and only released the df player

2. Toshiba is not the only HD DVD brand you can get... you can buy a microsoft, or a venturer, or an rca, or you can buy an lg df, a samsung df, or an onkyo, or if you are loaded, you can have an integra custom installed...
if ur making that argument, the sony ps3 is the only bd player.

[unreal1080p]

Wow, two flat-out lies in one sentence. Too bad AVS has exported all the attack dogs over here...

In regards to Gizmo... I think Stripe said it best --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy58Gdux9aY

[onyxx]

Look, I love Marantz but PLEASE! another $2000 Blu-Ray player is not going to really help the mainstream cause I don't believe.

It's obvious that this player is not aimed at the 'mainstream' cause, is any Marantz product? It's a good thing that one more CE company is making BD players even if they are aimed at the 'high end' consumers, don't you think?

[gemini75]

The Samsung 1400 has been DISCONTINUED. It is NOT being made anymore. Period. Currently, Samsung is only shipping and selling a DUAL FORMAT player.

Did you know that Venturer and Onkyo have HD DVD players? Oh, wait, they are just Toshibas in different cases, right?

And what Brick and Mortar stores carry these again????? I have yet to see one.

[dBock]

Hmmm… a BD hardware manufacturer delaying “any new formal announcements”… a little uncertain about blu’s chances?

I agree with that statement completely, and I'm thinking the idea that they are waiting to see what happens after CES is reasonable. I'm thinking we're going to see a LOT of dual format players come spring 08 should the sides be evened out.

Anyone else?

[dBock]

And what Brick and Mortar stores carry these again????? I have yet to see one.

The venturer is sold at Walmart and Target online.

[chris gerhard]

1. no, they said samsung is going df only because they canceled the two other bd players and only released the df player.

What two players did Samsung cancel? I am only aware of the BD-P2400 being cancelled.

Chris

[Webphilosopher]

The key thing to watch will be whether Funai and/or a Chinese company delays their demo or official announcment of an inexpensive BD player. If the A3 platform is expected to come out in generic Chinese packages this April, then there may be some second thoughts afoot about releasing new hardware at this time on Blu-ray.

But BD 2.0 features should be demoed lavishly during the CES. If these do not appear at CES, there are some real problems with the implementation of these at this time.

No matter what some Java folk maintain, BD-J is a bitch for both hardware and programmers. Only the PS3 seems robust enough to handle the challenge.

BD needs to speed up implementation of web interactive features to please both studios and some consumers (other consumers claim these features don't matter).

BD also needs to announce a very cheap player. Actually they needed one before the holiday season began. If BD had shared a cheap platform with the Chinese, HD DVD would be far behind in the rear view mirror by this time.

As far as profit margins for the CE manufacturers, their dream is to manufacture players on the cheap in China and sell them at a premium to consumers. What they have now with DVD is low cost of manufacture and low margin of profit on the players. Toshiba seems to be satisfied with extending the DVD sales model (high volume, low profit) to HD DVD.

[Webphilosopher]

I think it would be a good idea for neither side in this "format war" to count on Warner going exclusive. Producers of both formats need a "Plan B."

[AltonDarwin]

I think he's referring to the teaser trailers for Blu-Ray from 1 year ago showing Batman and Matrix.

Sorry Blu its not going to happen.

The guys at HD-DVD have been releasing everything as promised, and guess what they actually play!

Everything except the 120+ titles promised by 4Q 2007, you mean... How'd the ~60% delivery on that promise work out for you? Do those missing titles "actually play"???

[g.k.]

1. no, they said samsung is going df only because they canceled the two other bd players and only released the df player

Samsung has already announced a HTIB player that is Blu-ray only, so they are not going df only, sorry.