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Old 07-30-2008, 05:03 PM
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Removing the screws is the hardest part about changing the drives. If you don't have a screwdriver that fits them exactly, you will have problems.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:03 PM
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Yea it was weird because I have a really small screw driver and trying take out the last two screws (the first one was fine) the metal absolutely crumbled...I was going to try using a small wrench to unscrew them but I decided to quit while I was behind....this whole ordeal has been a nightmare
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:28 AM
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I feel bad that your PS3 broke and I hope you get everything resolved.

But that highlighted bit is curious. Why would you expect Sony to replace your unit for free when it is outside its waranty. Pretty much everything that breaks does it because of a random hardware defect. If it hadn't become defective it wouldnt have broken? But ellectronics are only covered for the time of their warranty (typically 1 year) after that its no longer up to the supplier to replace a broken unit.

Nobody would replace a unit out of warranty for free....Sony are no different.
I find it interesting how some people are so quick to blame the user and let big companies off the hook. Sony sold this guy a system that dies just after a year of reasonable use, and you think that it is perfectly acceptable. The fact is that despite sony's pr they have system failures just like the 360 and should extend there console warrenty just like microsoft. The fact that sony lawyers and business people decided that the warrenty should be a year, does not make it right.

Maybe my situation is unique but in less then a year of owning a ps3 i am on my 3rd console. My 60gig had to be replaced within 5 months when the drive failed(under the cc 2 year warrenty this cost me 100 bucks). Since the 60 gig was no longer being sold i went to cc and replaced it with a 40 gig, this time i didn't gert the extended warrenty, since i didn feel i should have to pay 200 bucks total for an extra year warrenty. A couple months later i try and download fw 2.4 and the 40 gig dies on me. Now sony was fine about my situation and fixed my 2nd console, but if that had happened out of warrenty i would be screwed for dl Sony's fw. The fact that i have had 2 ps3s die on me in less then a year, suggests to me that maybe the ps3 isn't as stable and bulletproof as sony wants you to believe. At least it took over a year for me to get to my third 360.

Now, i love my ps3 and use it way more then my 360. I would say i am about 70/30 bd to gaming. However, the whole blame the victum mentality is really bothersome. It seems that some people take it personally when a piece of electronics that they support breaks for someone else. This is especially true for consoles. Some people take other peoples electronic problems as a personal attack. I remember when the whole rrod thing started to arise, the harcore 360 fanboys would jump down peoples throat when they dared to post that there console died. They would defend microsofts's horrible warrenty, as if they had to pay the repairs out of their own pocket. Maybe i am out of the loop, but i find the rigid ferverent defense of major corpations at the expense of dedicated users like the OP, bothersome.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:17 PM
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I find it interesting how some people are so quick to blame the user and let big companies off the hook. Sony sold this guy a system that dies just after a year of reasonable use, and you think that it is perfectly acceptable. The fact is that despite sony's pr they have system failures just like the 360 and should extend there console warrenty just like microsoft. The fact that sony lawyers and business people decided that the warrenty should be a year, does not make it right.

Maybe my situation is unique but in less then a year of owning a ps3 i am on my 3rd console. My 60gig had to be replaced within 5 months when the drive failed(under the cc 2 year warrenty this cost me 100 bucks). Since the 60 gig was no longer being sold i went to cc and replaced it with a 40 gig, this time i didn't gert the extended warrenty, since i didn feel i should have to pay 200 bucks total for an extra year warrenty. A couple months later i try and download fw 2.4 and the 40 gig dies on me. Now sony was fine about my situation and fixed my 2nd console, but if that had happened out of warrenty i would be screwed for dl Sony's fw. The fact that i have had 2 ps3s die on me in less then a year, suggests to me that maybe the ps3 isn't as stable and bulletproof as sony wants you to believe. At least it took over a year for me to get to my third 360.

Now, i love my ps3 and use it way more then my 360. I would say i am about 70/30 bd to gaming. However, the whole blame the victum mentality is really bothersome. It seems that some people take it personally when a piece of electronics that they support breaks for someone else. This is especially true for consoles. Some people take other peoples electronic problems as a personal attack. I remember when the whole rrod thing started to arise, the harcore 360 fanboys would jump down peoples throat when they dared to post that there console died. They would defend microsofts's horrible warrenty, as if they had to pay the repairs out of their own pocket. Maybe i am out of the loop, but i find the rigid ferverent defense of major corpations at the expense of dedicated users like the OP, bothersome.
WTF! Where am I blaming the victim here. I'm simply saying that no corporation will replace free off charge an peice of ellectronics that is out of warranty. So when the OP says that he cant understand why Sony wont replace his console free of charge I simply pointed that out.

This has nothing to do with fanboys supporting one CE over another. This has to do with people having an unrealistic expectation about what a CE should do when your ellectronics break.

So basically you are saying that Sony should replace any console at any point in the future that breaks for any reason???? What planet do you live on exactly?

Microsoft had to extend the warranty on the 360 because there is a serious design flaw on that console that lead to a failure rate that is reportedly anything up to 33%. The PS3 is reported to have a failure rate closer to 0.4% (same as pretty much any other major ellectrical applience). Microsoft arent extending the console warrenty out of the goodness of their heart. They are doing it because they had to to avoid a class action lawsuit from owners.

Same thing with the firmware 2.40 problem Sony had. Any console that was bricked as a result of thier faulty firmaware was replaced free of charge. They did that to anybody that had a bricked console no matter if they were within warranty or not.

So why exactly do you think Sony should replace this console for free?

It had the standard 1 year warranty when purchased, the owner had the option to buy an extended warranty (from Sony or the store he bought the console from) and chose not to do that.........so when exactly do you think Sony should stop having to replace an out of warranty console for free......

after 18 months, should they give everybody a free 6 months? After 2 years, after 3 years........when exactly do you think any CE should have to stop honoring their 1 YEAR WARRANTY.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:48 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I am happy that I am going to be able to get a refurbished ps3 for $150; however, the thing that makes me mad is that there is no way to buy an extended warranty of this refurb system. If Sony is not willing to take extra money to insure my this refurbished console, that does not sit well with me. I would hate to get this new one and 6 months later have it die on me again. The refurbished system is going to be an old broken system that they were able to fix, correct? And I kept my PS3 in mint condition, no scratches, but I've read horror stories on a sony forum about users sending in scratch free consoles and receiving a console back that looks like freddy Cougar went to town on it!!! Hopefully it works out for the best
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Another idea. Since you're more than happy to sink some extra cash in this to get your PS3 moving again, and you're looking for some piece of mind.

Sell your refurb when you get it back. You'll basically pay $150 for a system that you can sell for $300. Then, purchase a new system, and use that $150 dollar profit will come in handy when you buy your extended warranty from best buy or circuit city or wherever.

Then, you'll have piece of mind, a brand new console, and have saved $150 in the process.
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I feel bad that your PS3 broke and I hope you get everything resolved.

But that highlighted bit is curious. Why would you expect Sony to replace your unit for free when it is outside its waranty. Pretty much everything that breaks does it because of a random hardware defect. If it hadn't become defective it wouldnt have broken? But ellectronics are only covered for the time of their warranty (typically 1 year) after that its no longer up to the supplier to replace a broken unit.

Nobody would replace a unit out of warranty for free....Sony are no different.

That is not true. Samsung replaced my Plasma TV with an even better model when it was four months out of warranty (I had bought the TV 3 years 4 months prior)!! Nintendo replaced my component cables when they were out of warranty!! Keep in mind... I paid nothing for these repairs/replacements.
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Another idea. Since you're more than happy to sink some extra cash in this to get your PS3 moving again, and you're looking for some piece of mind.

Sell your refurb when you get it back. You'll basically pay $150 for a system that you can sell for $300. Then, purchase a new system, and use that $150 dollar profit will come in handy when you buy your extended warranty from best buy or circuit city or wherever.

Then, you'll have piece of mind, a brand new console, and have saved $150 in the process.
Or get a warranty from Squaretrade. Since they base it off the cost of the unit with the 40-50% off coupons for them that float around an extended warranty should be easy to get and dirt cheap
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:31 PM
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Another idea. Since you're more than happy to sink some extra cash in this to get your PS3 moving again, and you're looking for some piece of mind.

Sell your refurb when you get it back. You'll basically pay $150 for a system that you can sell for $300. Then, purchase a new system, and use that $150 dollar profit will come in handy when you buy your extended warranty from best buy or circuit city or wherever.

Then, you'll have piece of mind, a brand new console, and have saved $150 in the process.
But the point is, why would he have to spend $300 out of the blue for something he should have gotten for free, right?

Microsoft may have the worst hardware on the market, but at least their Customer Service is top notch. As of now, it calms me more to KNOW my machine is going to break, but I will get another one when that moment comes (along a new 1 year warranty for that refurb. unit), that NOT KNOWING if my PS3 will break after a year... or not.

**While playing or watching a BD**
Jeez, if it failed right now, I'd be totally screwed...

I mean how can you enjoy anything with that in your mind?
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But the point is, why would he have to spend $300 out of the blue for something he should have gotten for free, right?

Microsoft may have the worst hardware on the market, but at least their Customer Service is top notch. As of now, it calms me more to KNOW my machine is going to break, but I will get another one when that moment comes (along a new 1 year warranty for that refurb. unit), that NOT KNOWING if my PS3 will break after a year... or not.

**While playing or watching a BD**
Jeez, if it failed right now, I'd be totally screwed...

I mean how can you enjoy anything with that in your mind?
So its better to buy a console with a known design flaw that you know is going to break (hopefully giving the RRoD because if it has a different fault your not covered).......that to buy a console with a record of reliability.....

ermmmm......

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Old 08-01-2008, 05:10 PM
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I have both. Got my 360 in June 2006 and my PS3 in Oct 2007. I had my 360 Die and it wasn't the RRoD it was the other big problem which was the Drive failure. And it's obvious now why. I played FFXI Exclusively on my 360 after I got it and while I was playing a game that was COMPLETELY loaded on the HDD it was STILL running the DVD Rom! I had to pay to get it fixed but I DID get a new 1 year warrenty on it which I was happy about. I figured the $90 I spent on that was worth the warrenty. (I'm not above replacing the drive myself and actually thought about it). If my PS3 goes under, Unlike my 360 Options, I'll probably have to reluctantly send it in and Wish for a 60Gig Back (I got by old HDD to put back in to ship.)) I am really glad that the Play from HDD feature is coming. It'll really help the wear and tear on the DVD roms. I'm figuring that's why they're adding it so they can reduce the amount of dead 360s with dead DVD roms.
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I gave in with the tech dude and they are sending me a coffin to mail the ps3 to Texas for $150. My options are pretty limited. I also hope I get the COD4 disc stuck inside my current PS3!!!

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Wow $150 is steep. Almost makes me thankful my 360 red lighted and i got a free replacement.

That's pretty messed up when you think about it though. Buy hardware has a ton being defective and get a new free one. Buy hardware that just has a few defective and pay out the ass with no support from sony.
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Sorry to hear about that and I am actually starting to get some issues with my PS3 but it may be due to 24p/1080 playback. Anyway, sorry about your PS3 and dont feel raw about not replacing that thing. They are not cheap.
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