'T3' Blu-ray encoding issues

[TSThomas]

Warner does it again...

[blu-bird]

Originally Posted by TSThomas

Warner does it again...

Is this a sign that Warner is dropping Blu-ray and going HD DVD? I think is is at least a good question, after all the mess this past week. This is three movies that have been messed up and have to be replaced. I think I'm going to hold off on buying Warner titles on Blu-ray, at least for now. I don't want to deal with replacing a dic all the time. I hope Warner doesn't drop Blu-ray, but this doesn't look good at all.

I guess I didn't read the signs right.

[mitchelljd]

damn, they need a new author for hd discs. or a better program to do it in

[mitchelljd]

dont turn this into a discussion about warner flipping to hd dvd.

[booner]

man...any more of these foul ups and blu will just give Warner to red. who wants these hassles?

[JAC35]

I think they should make the title Bonus View and then recall all the "working around the limitation of the platform" versions.

The only way it is going to really matter however is if lots of people complain, but I suspect there won't be.

[Hobbun]

"We spoke with a Warner rep late Thursday, who confirmed to us that the studio is aware of the 'T3' issue and is investigating its source, but said that they have no immediate plans to recall Blu-ray copies of the title currently on store shelves."

So Warner is willing to have a replacement program for people who have already bought the movie but not recall and replace the faulty product (that is already on the shelf) for people who want to buy the movie?

What is the deal with that?

[khwiggins2]

I wonder if they had to limit it to 1080i due to space constraints. By having two separate copies of the movie, they're limiting themselves to less than 25 GB for the movie. They should have just waited and put this out as a true profile 1.1 title, but maybe they are just trying to get these titles out the door while they can.

[poddie]

Originally Posted by khwiggins2

I wonder if they had to limit it to 1080i due to space constraints. By having two separate copies of the movie, they're limiting themselves to less than 25 GB for the movie. They should have just waited and put this out as a true profile 1.1 title, but maybe they are just trying to get these titles out the door while they can.

They've already announced the replacement program, so this theory makes very little sense.

Besides, it's most likely that they just reused the HD-DVD encode for the main film, and I suspect that fits within 25GB anyway. And the PIP encode certainly doesn't have to be as high bitrate as the main movie.

I do wish they would have just used real IME... but even then I'm sure they wouldn't have bothered to re-encode it for Blu-ray's higher capacity, so I guess it doesn't matter in the long run anyway.

[ccphilly1984]

now back on topic... I feel bad for the bd only supporters that have faulty problems on t3... thank got i'm a df supporter and have my t1 and t2 blu rays and my t3 hd dvd all in fine working order with no glitches and full 1080p playback.

[khwiggins2]

Originally Posted by poddie

They've already announced the replacement program, so this theory makes very little sense.

Besides, it's most likely that they just reused the HD-DVD encode for the main film, and I suspect that fits within 25GB anyway. And the PIP encode certainly doesn't have to be as high bitrate as the main movie.

I do wish they would have just used real IME... but even then I'm sure they wouldn't have bothered to re-encode it for Blu-ray's higher capacity, so I guess it doesn't matter in the long run anyway.

They're currently only taking names. There's no information on when they'll actually replace discs. Maybe they'll wait and come up with a real PiP disc.

You're right about the size. It looks like the hd dvd encode was ~ 18 GB, so space should have been an issue for having 2 copies of the movie on a BD50.

So if they were to just copy the movie over, I have no idea how they could have screwed this up. Only thing I can imagine is they duped the copy they were making with the PiP frames in it. But, since I'm not in the industry, I imagine that there are a bunch of other ways they could have screwed up that I don't know about.

[Konrad]

A review of the title by the High-Def Digest would be nice! Is the movie in 1080i watchable? I am in Europe and for me a disc replacement program does not work so easily! I am considering cancelling T3 together with Blade Runner Complete as I still have both on order from amazon.com.

[squall4008]

Originally Posted by ccphilly1984

WRONG! i have a 360 addon... boiling discs is a myth and FUD started by the bd camp. thank you...

fud? really?

Originally Posted by HDD Review

Editor's Note:

Some readers have reported playback issues with this disc on the Xbox 360 add-on HD DVD drive and other stand-alone HD DVD players. Universal has initiated a disc replacement service for affected consumers. More information can be found here.

it looks like not everyone is perfect, both being new technologies there is still some kinks to work out with BOTH formats be it FW updates needed to play discs or combos not working in some drives, which are technical problems

and now we have companies with shitty quality control how has warner had 3 monumental fuckups in 2 weeks as well as Paramount with the Jack Ryan Collection and Disney with Pirates

[Blondie-Wan]

So, when do we get a Warner BD glitch forum?

[Fettastic]

Originally Posted by blu-bird

Is this a sign that Warner is dropping Blu-ray and going HD DVD? I think is is at least a good question, after all the mess this past week. This is three movies that have been messed up and have to be replaced. I think I'm going to hold off on buying Warner titles on Blu-ray, at least for now. I don't want to deal with replacing a dic all the time. I hope Warner doesn't drop Blu-ray, but this doesn't look good at all.

Was it a sign Warner was dropping HD DVD when they released all those bobbed versions? No. Was it a sign that any studio was dropping DVD whenever they put out a defective disc? No.