'Day After Tomorrow' -- pre-release buzz

[PeterB]

Specs are in for Fox's 'Day After Tomorrow,' due October 2:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/dayaftertomorrow.html

It looks to be quite a release, with two audio commentaries, ten deleted scenes, BD-java exclusives including an interactive game, search index and personal scene selections.

Tech specs include 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video and DTS-MA audio on a BD-50 dual-layer disc.

Retail is $39.98.

[mrkiller]

looks good, but again, the price

[uberboy]

I'm pretty excited to see how good it is.

Amazon is selling it for $27.95. A lot better than the retail price.

Did anyone notice that on Amazon, they show the cover art of independence day instead of the day after tomorrow?

[Nicodimus22]

Let me get this straight:

#1 - It's $40.

#2 - No PCM or DTHD audio track, only DTS-MA.

I like the movie and all, but who is Fox kidding? Few people like this movie
enough to pay $40 for it. Of those people who do buy it, almost nobody has
a system that can properly decode DTS-MA. What an odd (read: poor) choice.

[MrBig]

I was hoping that when Fox came back to Blu that it would drop it's ridiculous pricing...sadly it doesn't seem to be the case.

[LembasBread]

Originally Posted by Nicodimus22

Let me get this straight:

#1 - It's $40.

#2 - No PCM or DTHD audio track, only DTS-MA.

#1 - Paramount's releases are also $40 MSRP, yet no one seems to complain

#2 - No one seems to complain about the HD DVD imports and such that have DTS-HD MA. Fox is at least future proofing their titles, unlike Paramount who charges just as much and doesn't even include any lossless audio whatsoever.

From what I can tell, the majority census from HD DVD owners is that hardly anyone can enjoy lossless audio so it's apparently no big deal (at least that's the reasoning for Transformers' lack of lossless audio). There is at least a superior audio codec than a standard Dolby track for all those thousands of people, apparently who don't have the means of enjoying lossless audio.

P.S. Is this seriously going to happen everytime there's a thread about a Fox/MGM title? Everyone is going to come in here and complain about the price and sound?

[Jakkis]

Originally Posted by LembasBread

#1 - Paramount's releases are also $40 MSRP, yet no one seems to complain

#2 - No one seems to complain about the HD DVD imports and such that have DTS-HD MA. Fox is at least future proofing their titles, unlike Paramount who charges just as much and doesn't even include any lossless audio whatsoever.

You have a point there m8 .

Well to me the pricing isn't going to hit hard anyways. Cause the extra Europe feed, which we get on BDs and HDDVDs. Fox titles probably will be priced atleast here in Scandinavia, somewhere 30-35€, so please, stop bitching .

As you guys have in the states BDs that costs $29,95MSRP, convert that same amount in euros and you probably get some of the titles in here .

Thanks to the Fox's region locks. ffs.

[Nicodimus22]

Originally Posted by LembasBread

#1 - Paramount's releases are also $40 MSRP, yet no one seems to complain

Paramount doesn't make Blu-Rays for the time being. Go on.

Originally Posted by LembasBread

#2 - No one seems to complain about the HD DVD imports and such that have DTS-HD MA.

#1 HD-DVD players that support DTS-MA are common, unlike most BD players which only handle DTHD or PCM.

#2 This discussion is about the Blu-ray of TDAT. Got it?

Originally Posted by LembasBread

From what I can tell, the majority census from HD DVD owners is that hardly anyone can enjoy lossless audio so it's apparently no big deal

Well, here's the problem with that argument: People who right now own BD players and HDTVs are early adopters and/or electronics fanatics who are much more likely to own a great surround receiver than the average joe who buys DVDs. In other words, HD is a niche market which caters to customers who demand the cutting edge of technology, and when the only HD audio track is one that cannot be played by the vast majority of BD players, that's completely unacceptable to that niche market of picky, fanatical consumers.

Originally Posted by LembasBread

P.S. Is this seriously going to happen everytime there's a thread about a Fox/MGM title? Everyone is going to come in here and complain about the price and sound?

Well, considering that their pricing is seriously out of line compared to most other movies on the same format, and the fact that 95% of the Blu-ray players in people's homes CANNOT PLAY DTS-MA at all, those are two very legitimate complaints that are even more bitter when you put them together.

[MarkG]

Nicodimus22 - Don't buy the movie if you don't like the specks/price or buy a player/receiver that can play DTS-HD.

[supra2jzgte]

Here is my gripe. The only reason and this is well known to the savy, that Fox is exclusive to Blu Ray is for BD+. Now, lets talk about DTS-HD Master Audio. Imports for HD-DVD don't count because they were not meant to be distributed in our market. So by them having DTS-HD Master Audio on HD-DVD, 1.) means nothing on foreign releases, and 2.) should be re-assuring to Fox that they can release on HD51 discs with DTS-HD MA streams. See heres the thing! Once decoding becomes available for DTS-HD MA and HR, Toshiba can send it out as a Firmware update and so can other manufactures of HD-DVD players because all the players have network connectivity. It will be a big hassle for those BD player owners that have no network jack.

The features: LAME

The MSRP: LAME, this is a catalog title now. Fox pricing is WAY to high for catalog titles.

The best thing about this release will be the picture in AVC/MPEG4@1080p/24

-dad

[tru2blu]

Originally Posted by LembasBread

#1 - Paramount's releases are also $40 MSRP, yet no one seems to complain

#2 - No one seems to complain about the HD DVD imports and such that have DTS-HD MA. Fox is at least future proofing their titles, unlike Paramount who charges just as much and doesn't even include any lossless audio whatsoever.

From what I can tell, the majority census from HD DVD owners is that hardly anyone can enjoy lossless audio so it's apparently no big deal (at least that's the reasoning for Transformers' lack of lossless audio). There is at least a superior audio codec than a standard Dolby track for all those thousands of people, apparently who don't have the means of enjoying lossless audio.

P.S. Is this seriously going to happen everytime there's a thread about a Fox/MGM title? Everyone is going to come in here and complain about the price and sound?

I live in Australia and alot of new releases are $42 !! But I'm prepared to pay for it.
And I love this movie. Will pick this up when it makes it Down Under. Let it be soon.

[Josh Z]

Originally Posted by Nicodimus22

#1 HD-DVD players that support DTS-MA are common, unlike most BD players which only handle DTHD or PCM.

HD DVD players are in the same boat as Blu-ray players right now. Both extract the DTS core from a DTS-HD MA track.

[aaronwt]

Originally Posted by Nicodimus22

#1 HD-DVD players that support DTS-MA are common, unlike most BD players which only handle DTHD or PCM.

There is no HD DVD player that decodes DTS HD MA.

[Nicodimus22]

Originally Posted by MarkG

Nicodimus22 - Don't buy the movie if you don't like the specks/price or buy a player/receiver that can play DTS-HD.

Oh, don't worry, I won't.

My main question was why Fox chose to exclude almost everyone by using the DTS-MA audio track, when the equally high-quality PCM or DTHD tracks can be played by practically everyone with HD-audio equipment.

[Nicodimus22]

Originally Posted by aaronwt

There is no HD DVD player that decodes DTS HD MA.

I stand corrected. I admit I don't have any firsthand experience with HD-DVD and what I heard was wrong in that regard.

But actually, that makes the situation even worse than I thought it was. Movies are being released with HD audio tracks that nobody can listen to? Doesn't that bother anybody else?