'Star Trek: The Next Generation' coming in 2012!

[gravis778]

Enterprise sort of broke the continuity of what we new about the Star Trek Universe. Remember in The Cage our young officers were bragging about Warp Drive.... but yet in Enterprise they had a Warp 5 vessel.. wtf?

TOS broke continuity itself. Stardates were randomly thrown around, story did not flow from one episode to the next. As for The Cage, pretty much any story there was thrown out the window when NBC didn't buy that pilot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek has a timeline. The events of Enterprise happens right before the Earth / Romulin wars, and is followed by the formation of the federation. The ONLY thing that Enterprise breaks in continuity is that it is stated in TOS that the Romulin wars were fought without the use of visual ship-to-ship communication, although you could argue that Earth had it, and the Romulins did not.

The NX-01 could do Warp 5. NCC-1701 could do warp 8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ent...%28NCC-1701%29

Enterprise didn't kill the francise. The failure of UPN killed the francise.

[gravis778]

This is why using miniatures or puppets for smaller alien type creatures and things like in Farscape are better then using CGI. If you use good materials it will still look great versus CGI which will only look as good as what you mastered it for as you won't put in any work past that with future res. in mind.
edit: Oh and I will be buying the sampler. Also I believe "Enterprise" was shot in 480p so don't bother wanting an HD version as it's not there.
As far as X-Files I thought it was shot on film. I don't know if I'd buy it considering the last episode number, that really creeps me out.

ALL 4 seasons of Enterprise were done in HD, and are broadcast in syndication, and available on Netflix, in HD.

[Whirlygig]

Also I believe "Enterprise" was shot in 480p so don't bother wanting an HD version as it's not there.

Believe what you will, that doesn't make it true.

The events of Enterprise happens right before the Earth / Romulan wars, and is followed by the formation of the federation. The ONLY thing that Enterprise breaks in continuity is that it is stated in TOS that the Romulan wars were fought without the use of visual ship-to-ship communication, although you could argue that Earth had it, and the Romulans did not.

^^ Fixed. Good points about TOS, by the way; people often put on rose-colored glasses while looking back at that series.

[Whirlygig]

ALL 3 seasons of Enterprise were done in HD, and are broadcast in syndication, and available on Netflix, in HD.

There were 4 seasons.
Seasons 1-3 were filmed on 35 mm and transferred to digital for broadcast; season 4 was shot/produced entirely digitally in 1080i. At least that's what MA says.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Enterprise

[gravis778]

There were 4 seasons.
Seasons 1-3 were filmed on 35 mm and transferred to digital for broadcast; season 4 was shot/produced entirely digitally in 1080i. At least that's what MA says.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Enterprise

You are right. Somehow I had it in my mind that TOS and Enterprise ran the same length of time, even though I have seen every single episode of Enterprise a half-dozen times (its my favorite series).

I knew that at least the first season was done on 35mm, but the point is, whether filmed on 35mm or sot at 1080i, the entire series has always been in HD.

[eastx]

Enterprise didn't kill the francise. The failure of UPN killed the francise.

Quite true. While Enterprise had a few missteps like the awful theme song, it was still a great show. Lots of good episodes scattered around the first 3 seasons, and several lovable characters. Then season 4, with all the tie-ins to Star Trek continuity, was just fantastic. It's a shame some people were too turned off by the show's different direction/slow warmup to stick through till then.

[Philnerd]

Quite true. While Enterprise had a few missteps like the awful theme song, it was still a great show. Lots of good episodes scattered around the first 3 seasons, and several lovable characters. Then season 4, with all the tie-ins to Star Trek continuity, was just fantastic. It's a shame some people were too turned off by the show's different direction/slow warmup to stick through till then.

I remember when Enterprise first aired and I just didn't have time to watch it, and then it seemed to get moved all over the schedule and I just basically missed the whole thing. Now, 10 years later, I've been streaming the entire show (about a third through Season 4 now) through netflix/amazon and I think its absolutely top tier. There are several story arcs and multi-part episodes that are better than the average Trek movie. Just amazing writing and production, I really wish there was another 4 seasons to watch

[Boston007]

I remember when Enterprise first aired and I just didn't have time to watch it, and then it seemed to get moved all over the schedule and I just basically missed the whole thing. Now, 10 years later, I've been streaming the entire show (about a third through Season 4 now) through netflix/amazon and I think its absolutely top tier. There are several story arcs and multi-part episodes that are better than the average Trek movie. Just amazing writing and production, I really wish there was another 4 seasons to watch

It was a great show. They moved it too much and in bad timeslots. And I think the marketing was just not good. It's a shame it got cut short.

[Dragonyeuw]

^^ Fixed. Good points about TOS, by the way; people often put on rose-colored glasses while looking back at that series.

Really? Personally I've been on a TOS kick, and the shows still hold up. Take the inferior FX and obvious 60's influence out of the picture, the stories are still very relevant and address the human condition, which is what Star Trek has always been about.

[eastx]

He meant from a continuity standpoint. Very few episodes in TOS relate to each other, star dates are kinda random, and it doesn't build up to anything. Whereas newer Trek shows have serialized story arcs, so they can tell more elaborate stories. But you're right, the stories in TOS (the first 2 seasons, anyway) hold up very well.

[Krawk]

He meant from a continuity standpoint. Very few episodes in TOS relate to each other, star dates are kinda random, and it doesn't build up to anything.

I recall when the laserdiscs of TOS were released they had Episode numbers and Air Dates. The Air Dates were not in order of episode numbers and this might be the source of the complaints as well as mixed up stardates.

No, regarding continuity, I was referring to what we know about the Trek Universe. I think someone inserted "Enterprise" into a timeline after the fact. I still stand by my comment about The Cage/The Menagerie and the warp engines comment. I watched Enterprise after it was canceled, I liked it for the most part.

Back on topic though. The TNG disc mentioned by this thread, bah, the seasons though, will preorder them the day they're announced.

[OneManShow]

It was a great show. They moved it too much and in bad timeslots. And I think the marketing was just not good. It's a shame it got cut short.

I really enjoyed watching Enterprise through netflix. I rented seasons 2-4 on disc way before they were available for streaming. My wife would comment every time she caught me watching the show, "what a horrible theme song!". I really wish they would've changed it. The only time we ever got a break from it was for the 2 part "Mirrior Mirrior" episode - my favorite. I also really like the borg episode.

I own season 1 on DVD. I would gladly buy seasons 2-4 on blu-ray if the price is right. The annoying thing about all of the Star Trek series is how they are initially $100 per season.... ridiculous. Wonder how high they will price the TNG seasons on bd.

[Josh Z]

He meant from a continuity standpoint. Very few episodes in TOS relate to each other, star dates are kinda random, and it doesn't build up to anything. Whereas newer Trek shows have serialized story arcs, so they can tell more elaborate stories. But you're right, the stories in TOS (the first 2 seasons, anyway) hold up very well.

The fact that TOS episodes were standalone and do not have a serialized story arc is not necessarily a continuity issue. The random Stardates are a minor continuity issue at most. Other than that, the episode stories do not contradict one another.

The entire premise of Enterprise, however, directly contradicts Star Trek story information from TOS, TNG and the movies.

[Josh Z]

ALL 4 seasons of Enterprise were done in HD, and are broadcast in syndication, and available on Netflix, in HD.

While the live action elements were either shot on film or HD video, the visual effects were rendered at less-than-HD resolution and were upconverted.

[Josh Z]

Quite true. While Enterprise had a few missteps like the awful theme song, it was still a great show. Lots of good episodes scattered around the first 3 seasons, and several lovable characters. Then season 4, with all the tie-ins to Star Trek continuity, was just fantastic. It's a shame some people were too turned off by the show's different direction/slow warmup to stick through till then.

Franchise continuity aside, I quite liked the Enterprise pilot episode. However, the show took an immediate nose dive after that. It seemed like the show had five or six episodes in row where the characters got trapped in caves. That seemed to be the only plot the writers could come up with, over and over again. I lost interest really quickly and dumped the show halfway through the first season.

I kept hearing that the series got a lot better, so I tuned in to a random episode in Season 4, which was supposedly the show's best season. What was the episode about? Yup, the characters were trapped in a cave again!