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    Least Shocking Announcement Ever...James Cameron Hearts Blu-ray

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    everything looks better and benefits from 3D so he watched the Masters even though he didnt care about it simply because it was in 3D? wow, thats pretty pathetic.

    well Mr. Cameron, having seen your Avatar in 3D theaters and then on 2D blu-ray, i can say without a doubt that i enjoyed the television experience much, much more. i wasn't distracted by everything trying to "be 3D" and distracted by the fact it looked just like lame cardboard cutouts just like back in the 80s. i admit the percentage of things "sticking out" is much better these days but its still the same effect....that being nothing impressive. of course the worst part is that after maybe 25mins into the 3D version, i didnt even notice the effect anymore so it sorta defeated the purpose.

    it seems only CGI animated movies truly benefit from this new fad so thats great for them but live action movies should just give it a rest. and considering how poorly the last few live action 3D movies have done, maybe its a sign people are tired of it, or at least tired of the movie types using it. considering they charged anywhere from 3 to 5 dollars extra for it, its sorta surprising to see how little money the latest movies are doing regardless of 3D.
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    Wink Duh!


    Of coarse!

    It gives him a chance too:
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    I think an even less shocking one would be 'James Cameron Hearts Thermonuclear Explosions'. It must have killed him, writing the script for 'Titanic', without this helpful plot device.

    "There's this big Edwardian ocean liner, see, and a mysterious figure, let's call him Jack Connor, falls from the future through a time warp onto the bridge, and......"

    'On the topic of good vs. bad 3D, his advice to all filmmakers and studios is the A) shoot in 3D, or B) spend the time and money to do post-conversion right. For this films need an extra six month built into the post-production schedules.'

    Oh dear, are you an indie filmmaker with John Cassavetes-like aspirations? Ah well, tough. If you pepper your script with explosions, car chases, tin eared dialogue and some gratuitous sex, then it might be a bit more 3D friendly, baby. Borrowing liberally from Roger Dean album covers and Ferngully might help too. Or, totally nuts as it may sound, you could just try and make quality films with believable plots, well written scripts and some real relevance to the human condition. I know; madness, it'll never catch on.....

    I can't wait for Digital Domain's retooling of 'Citizen Kane' on Blu-ray. It'll doubtless be in (teal and orange) colour, cropped to 16:9, converted to 3D and have Charles Foster Kane replaced with a six foot Weta-generated digital penguin, because that's what the kids want, innit?

    Cheers, Jim!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanB1964 View Post
    I think an even less shocking one would be 'James Cameron Hearts Thermonuclear Explosions'. It must have killed him, writing the script for 'Titanic', without this helpful plot device.

    "There's this big Edwardian ocean liner, see, and a mysterious figure, let's call him Jack Connor, falls from the future through a time warp onto the bridge, and......"

    'On the topic of good vs. bad 3D, his advice to all filmmakers and studios is the A) shoot in 3D, or B) spend the time and money to do post-conversion right. For this films need an extra six month built into the post-production schedules.'

    Oh dear, are you an indie filmmaker with John Cassavetes-like aspirations? Ah well, tough. If you pepper your script with explosions, car chases, tin eared dialogue and some gratuitous sex, then it might be a bit more 3D friendly, baby. Borrowing liberally from Roger Dean album covers and Ferngully might help too. Or, totally nuts as it may sound, you could just try and make quality films with believable plots, well written scripts and some real relevance to the human condition. I know; madness, it'll never catch on.....

    I can't wait for Digital Domain's retooling of 'Citizen Kane' on Blu-ray. It'll doubtless be in (teal and orange) colour, cropped to 16:9, converted to 3D and have Charles Foster Kane replaced with a six foot Weta-generated digital penguin, because that's what the kids want, innit?

    Cheers, Jim!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanB1964 View Post
    I can't wait for Digital Domain's retooling of 'Citizen Kane' on Blu-ray. It'll doubtless be in (teal and orange) colour, cropped to 16:9, converted to 3D and have Charles Foster Kane replaced with a six foot Weta-generated digital penguin, because that's what the kids want, innit?

    Cheers, Jim!
    Let's hope so, it might make that film better, the most overrated film of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bouncy X View Post
    everything looks better and benefits from 3D so he watched the Masters even though he didnt care about it simply because it was in 3D? wow, thats pretty pathetic.
    How many things did you watch in HD when you got your first HDTV just because the program was in HD? If you were like me, you were hurting for HD, and anything that was broadcast, whether it was something you were interested in or not, you watched!

    Cameron's right - 3D can be a push, but only if its done right. I agree with the line 100%, either shoot in 3d to begin with, or factor in enough time for post-production to do it right. Sloppy 3D is not going to benefit anyone.

    I can think of Spielberg movies I would love to see in 3D, but Close Encounters and Jaws are not the top of my list. Jurassic Park and Poltergeist are on my list (although, to be fair, I am not sure what Spielberg's role actually was in Poltergeist, I just know he was involved)
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    Since he loves Blu Ray does this mean that True Lies is in the works? Please oh please?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLFalconsFAN View Post
    Since he loves Blu Ray does this mean that True Lies is in the works? Please oh please?!
    Don't know if True Lies is in the works, but do know that The Abyss will be his next film on BD.
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    Given his love for the format, it would be nice if he could supervise decent releases of hos best movies: Abyss and True Lies have underwhelming DVDs and Terminator and T2 have not great blu-rays. Be nice to see them get the 'Avatar' or 'Blade Runner' treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Banana View Post
    Given his love for the format, it would be nice if he could supervise decent releases of hos best movies: Abyss and True Lies have underwhelming DVDs and Terminator and T2 have not great blu-rays. Be nice to see them get the 'Avatar' or 'Blade Runner' treatment.
    Terminator and T2 came out certainly after the release of the format, and I think T2 used the same master that was used for the DVD Extreame Edition. T2 was also one of the early DVD titles. I expect to see T2 rereleased in about a year or two.

    But.... do you really want him supervising the BD releases of these movies? I really don't wish to see this movie "color-corrected"
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    If he likens the rise of 3D to the rise of color films, he should also consider that 3D conversion of old films is just as bad as colorization of b&w material. These movies survived based on their original forms, leave them alone.

    3D takes a lot of magic out of a properly framed shot, and everything being in focus at once throws everything off. Until we have a 3D technology that can change focus along with what we are focused on, it isn't going to look the same as looking into the world. At least 2D changes focus a lot along with what we should be looking at, but that works because our eyes are locked on a distance and we can leave that up to the cinematographer. I just have trouble taking in a whole shot as one piece in 3D, rather than my eyes darting from object to object or foreground to background. I can focus on both just fine in 2D.
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    OK JC your in luv.
    So are we!
    Your not even averaging two releases a yr on Blu.
    Love??? I'd call that a fling!!!
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    Let's hope so, it might make that film better, the most overrated film of all time.
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    Just, when evaluating "CK" one should consider film-making & ground-breaking film-making at that.
    That's where "CK" shines brightly too this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hastor View Post
    If he likens the rise of 3D to the rise of color films, he should also consider that 3D conversion of old films is just as bad as colorization of b&w material. These movies survived based on their original forms, leave them alone.

    3D takes a lot of magic out of a properly framed shot, and everything being in focus at once throws everything off. Until we have a 3D technology that can change focus along with what we are focused on, it isn't going to look the same as looking into the world. At least 2D changes focus a lot along with what we should be looking at, but that works because our eyes are locked on a distance and we can leave that up to the cinematographer. I just have trouble taking in a whole shot as one piece in 3D, rather than my eyes darting from object to object or foreground to background. I can focus on both just fine in 2D.

    Great points, sir, about the post-conversion / color & b&w. While I was furiously scribbling notes for my Blu-Con articles, I missed it. But while writing the article I found these double stances an odd juxtaposition (though technically, Jon Landau said the b&w v. color statement, and cameron advocated post-conversion for classics b/c unlike modern films, they can't be shoot in 3D).

    as for the focus issue you cited, I'm actually a little confused about what you mean. Most movies in 3D apply focus to a particular range along the z-axis just as a 2D cinematographer does. And if they don't, that's the intent, I suppose. the technology certainly does exist.

    Funny enough, I had the opposite reaction as you

    I like it when the entire 3D image is in focus front to back (like with video) because to my eyes, it allows me to focus on whatever I want as I would naturally. When the artists choose focus (for example, with foreground snow in A CHRISTMAS CAROL), I found my eyes *trying* to focus on things that never could be focused, which to me, was quite frustrating. Odd to have the opposite experience, but with human beings, anything is possible.

    What about the rest of you folks? Do you prefer everything in focus, or a more decided-for-you experience?

    Cheers and thanks for reading.
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